High School Soccer

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I wasn't necessarily looking for a particular game analysis but an explanation as to how a team with sooooo much talent could not dominate every game. I proposed a coaching issue as good coaches do more than motivate players for particular games they are charged with blending talent and putting players in complementary positions and developing a scheme/style that takes advantage of those talents.

Since the players at Jesuit do not play boot ball on their club teams I would have to assume they are all capable of playing possession soccer and the front line players have the ability to make good service into the box and or play over laps etc. Now if the problem is that those receiving the service can't finish or the players have not developed enough chemistry to perfect the timing of their runs then those are answer to the question but those answers point back to a coaching issue because talented players can finish if they are practicing those aspects of the game.

I have not seen any evaluations on the coachs tactic's and or responses to South's tactics.

Hey I'm no Jesuit fan, but coaching is not the issue of there. it's 18 players putting together a great effort, overcoming the talent of the opposing team, digging deep for the team and for each other and coming out victorious at the end of the game. Wasn't there so don't know how the game vs South Salem went or keys to the game. But there is what we call the Human spirit, and it's stronger than any talent in the world. And that can overcome any adversity known to man (in this case woman:).
Great job S. Salem (and Sunset) this year.

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Hey I'm no Jesuit fan, but coaching is not the issue of there. it's 18 players putting together a great effort, overcoming the talent of the opposing team, digging deep for the team and for each other and coming out victorious at the end of the game. Wasn't there so don't know how the game vs South Salem went or keys to the game. But there is what we call the Human spirit, and it's stronger than any talent in the world. And that can overcome any adversity known to man (in this case woman:).
Great job S. Salem (and Sunset) this year.

While I appreciate what you're saying, there is an element in this thread that something was wrong with Jesuit. If not the coaching (which is absurd) it is then suggested that perhaps Jesuit lacked that human spirit (aka that "can-do" attitude, 110% effort, win at all costs, leaving it all on the field, etc.) that SS had. It implies that Jesuit didn't work as hard or want it as much or whatever. Very good and even great teams lose. It happens in all sports, and definitely happens in soccer, which truly is a game of inches. SS is a very good team and they had the better of it Sat. Seems this can be a bit over-analyzed.

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So much Jesuit Hate! And several days after the game? Be done with it for goodness sakes. Let's shower the attention to those girls still fighting for the title. Jesuit lost. It is one goal. One game. Many, many missed opportunities. 9-3 shots on goal. IT IS OVER PEOPLE. Show some respect for those who lost, and those who WON. Too many parents with too much time on their hands.

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3 Teams From Oregon Listed

All 4 teams in tonights Semifinals are mentioned, 3 are listed, in ESPNHS's 2011 Fab 50 Girls Soccer Rankings.

http://espn.go.com/high-school/girls...rankings/fab50

Go Oregon!

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WOW !! Tualatin ranked 10th ?

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WOW !! Tualatin ranked 10th ?

Pretty cool, an Oregon team in the top 10! (didn't want to put that in the original post and spoil it! :))

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Pretty cool, an Oregon team in the top 10! (didn't want to put that in the original post and spoil it! :))

The interesting thing that stood out to me was that many of the top ranked teams seem to have played 4 or 5 more games than the Oregon teams. Do those schools play in additional tournaments, or just have a longer Fall season?

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The interesting thing that stood out to me was that many of the top ranked teams seem to have played 4 or 5 more games than the Oregon teams. Do those schools play in additional tournaments, or just have a longer Fall season?

Could be they have more preseason games or a larger number of teams in their league. Good question though.

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Not hate just trying to understand

While I appreciate what you're saying, there is an element in this thread that something was wrong with Jesuit. If not the coaching (which is absurd) it is then suggested that perhaps Jesuit lacked that human spirit (aka that "can-do" attitude, 110% effort, win at all costs, leaving it all on the field, etc.) that SS had. It implies that Jesuit didn't work as hard or want it as much or whatever. Very good and even great teams lose. It happens in all sports, and definitely happens in soccer, which truly is a game of inches. SS is a very good team and they had the better of it Sat. Seems this can be a bit over-analyzed.

Over and over again posters defend the coaches WITHOUT an explanation of why they are so good. Can anybody tell me what makes them so good other than they are personable and happen to coach "ready made" high school soccer players.

Is it their overall coaching/teaching approach, tactical knowledge, game management, player management or practice routine/drills that make them so good?

John Wooden dominated men’s college Basketball for nearly two decades because not only did he attract the best talent he had a superior system with which to teach the game and was able to transfer that teaching to the court.

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Over and over again posters defend the coaches WITHOUT an explanation of why they are so good. Can anybody tell me what makes them so good other than they are personable and happen to coach "ready made" high school soccer players.

Is it their overall coaching/teaching approach, tactical knowledge, game management, player management or practice routine/drills that make them so good?

John Wooden dominated men’s college Basketball for nearly two decades because not only did he attract the best talent he had a superior system with which to teach the game and was able to transfer that teaching to the court.

Maybe no one has taken the time to find out. Maybe they just blindly send their girls there because of their record and don't even know what the coach looks like, his philosophy, techniques or style. Maybe....

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What?

My daughter plays soccer for Jesuit, but believe me, I did not send her there because of the girls soccer program. I sent her there because of the first class education opportunities. Besides, Div 1 College coaches aren't attending highschool games no matter how good the teams are. Div 1 college coaches are paying far more attention to what is going on at the premier clubs, ODP, etc. That is why clubs sponsor college showcases. High school soccer is really more of a distraction than anything.

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My daughter plays soccer for Jesuit, but believe me, I did not send her there because of the girls soccer program. I sent her there because of the first class education opportunities. Besides, Div 1 College coaches aren't attending highschool games no matter how good the teams are. Div 1 college coaches are paying far more attention to what is going on at the premier clubs, ODP, etc. That is why clubs sponsor college showcases. High school soccer is really more of a distraction than anything.

If it's such a distraction why does she play? Why not join an ENCL club which goes year round and discourages playing playing for a high school team?

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Not the question

My daughter plays soccer for Jesuit, but believe me, I did not send her there because of the girls soccer program. I sent her there because of the first class education opportunities. Besides, Div 1 College coaches aren't attending highschool games no matter how good the teams are. Div 1 college coaches are paying far more attention to what is going on at the premier clubs, ODP, etc. That is why clubs sponsor college showcases. High school soccer is really more of a distraction than anything.

I'm glad you can afford to send your DD to Jesuit for the academic program however the question at hand is why their soccer team can’t dominate the competition given their vastly superior talent pool.

The reason you hear Jeopardy theme music playing in the back ground is because I'm still waiting for a knowledgeable Jesuit parent or even player to explain what the problem is. Could it be that they know that they are just marking time and do not try as hard? Or is the coach the issue. I don't know the answer but would love to have someone close to the program to explain it to me with some level of detail.

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People are so off track here. Get a life folks. This is a soccer forum. Why don't you start a thread "We hate Jesuit and want answers".

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If it's such a distraction why does she play? Why not join an ENCL club which goes year round and discourages playing playing for a high school team?

My daughter does play year round for a premier club and ODP. By distraction, I meant pleasant distraction. :>) It is part of the overall highschool experience, but certainly not the primary reason for attending Jesuit. You would be hard pressed to find a Jesuit parent who is forking out the cash for their child to play sports. Especially, when there are so many other great schools in the portland area with very good soccer teams and good coaches. As a previous poster has already pointed out, a number of the schools are nationally ranked.