High School Soccer

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How about you EXPLAIN why a coach with all star talent can be considered a good coach when he is playing against teams with half the talent and not winning every game by 2-3 goals.

Your analogy about Barcelona losing every now and then would be accurate if they weren't playing division 1 teams talent wise like Jesuit is. Seriously folks look at their rosters every year, 100% premier level club players, 6 or more of which are ODP players. If the coach can't get them to play together or to their potential he/she is NOT a good coach!

There were there and getting it done, just not finishing (9 -3 shots on goal per the 'O') or 'unlucky'. Sometimes you just don't win. I would take Fennah and those Jesuit girls 7 days a week and twice on Sunday.

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How about you EXPLAIN why a coach with all star talent can be considered a good coach when he is playing against teams with half the talent and not winning every game by 2-3 goals.

Your analogy about Barcelona losing every now and then would be accurate if they weren't playing division 1 teams talent wise like Jesuit is. Seriously folks look at their rosters every year, 100% premier level club players, 6 or more of which are ODP players. If the coach can't get them to play together or to their potential he/she is NOT a good coach!

Well done. You did manage to get stupider.

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How about you EXPLAIN why a coach with all star talent can be considered a good coach when he is playing against teams with half the talent and not winning every game by 2-3 goals.

Your analogy about Barcelona losing every now and then would be accurate if they weren't playing division 1 teams talent wise like Jesuit is. Seriously folks look at their rosters every year, 100% premier level club players, 6 or more of which are ODP players. If the coach can't get them to play together or to their potential he/she is NOT a good coach!

I like seeing Jesuit lose, because they're so good and have many advantages over the rest of us. I'm sorry to say that even I don't agree with you.

You're comment is very uneducated. I appreciate that you're willing to share your opinions, but this is very far from the truth.

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name calling = stoooopid

Well done. You did manage to get stupider.

I see the arbiter of intellectualism is at it again. I doubt you realize that your name calling makes you look the fool, oh well bring on the flame and prove my point.

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Still waiting for that EXPLANATION

I like seeing Jesuit lose, because they're so good and have many advantages over the rest of us. I'm sorry to say that even I don't agree with you.

You're comment is very uneducated. I appreciate that you're willing to share your opinions, but this is very far from the truth.

So far all of an explanation we have is that they didn't "get er done". I guess its ok that you get 9 shots from highly talented player and none find the net. Yeah that’s a real good excuse for having the BEST talent. Seriously is all you Jesuit parents and defends have is that "is soccer"? Now who is the soccer ignoramus?

Do you all realize that these are EXCUSES for both the players and the coach LOOOOOOSING to teams with handful players with equal talent?

How about things like: It’s difficult to developed chemistry or they don't reverse the ball or they are young and still working on passing in the coach’s scheme?

No all you have so far is the coach is good. How about you tell us WHY!

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I disagree

Ok somebody has to explain to me how a team that is 100% club players with several ODP standouts lose?

If the Jesuit AD had a clue he would be looking for a new coach.

Like many posters here, I sort of like to Jesuit lose since they have such an advantage over public schools. However, I just don't think any team is infallible. Jesuit has an amazing team and I bet if they trained together like club teams do (or for that amount of time) then they would be almost impossible to beat. Sorry Jesuit your out but posters who say disparaging things might be off the mark a bit. On any given day.....

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No need to be bitter, there is evidence the ref and AR got the offside wrong. Check out 1h43m mark and see how the player is clearly behind the defender. The second PK given is couple min before that and this was no break away that most refs would not call.

The ref all game was having sidebar sessions with the AR even though they made decisions on what they saw. This ref was clearly not a confident ref and it is really disappointing that he put himself in the games result.

The same AR that called the offside called the corner out that went in too.

http://www.ihigh.com/lakeridgepacers...?silverlight=1

Good game - poor officiating.
Good luck Sunset, S. Salem, Tualatin and Westview

Terrible call by ref.

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Terrible call by ref.

I was at the game and overheard one of the parents saying they should report one AR if not both. And they were from Sunset!

Sounds like neither side was too happy.

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Back on track

OK, lets get away from ref bad calls and JHS bashing and back to what the thread was originally meant to be, predictions and analysis.

Last week;
S.Salem 1, Jesuit 0
Tualatin 4, Southridge1
Thurston 2, Westview 3
Sunset 4, Lakeridge 2

Analysis (my own observations/opinions/thoughts)
I read that South just played with more heart and wanted it more. Didn't see the match so, can't comment.
Tualatin has been scored on their last 2 matches so, confronted with a solid defense, things could get interesting.
Westview was down 2 at half. I think a combination of Thurston coming out red hot then coasting and the wily veterans at Westview keeping the pressure contributed to a come from behind victory.
Sunset was also up by 2 at half and let Lakeridge back in the door. SHS able to manufacture 2 goals in the second to take the match.

QuarterFinals (my own observations/opinions/thoughts)
S.Salem at Tualatin - Never played at Tualatin but I can imagine the atmosphere will be anything but inviting for the Saxons. Timberwolves are a scoring machine but have shown just a tiny crack of vulnerability in the playoffs. If South can just hold them to 1 or 2 goals they stand a chance at an upset.
Westview at Sunset - Third time this year these two powerhouse have met with the Apollos getting the short end of the stick last time. No need to try to motivate either team, they flat out don't like each other. Sunset's defense has proven itself and their offense is firing on all cylinders. Westview's midfield and potent attack has racked up impressive numbers. This one could go to PK's really easily.

My picks (no easy task here)
S.Salem 1, Tualatin 2
Westview 2, Sunset 3 (PK's)

Final = Tualatin vs Sunset

Would encourage others to post their points of view. Good luck teams!

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OK, lets get away from ref bad calls and JHS bashing and back to what the thread was originally meant to be, predictions and analysis.

Last week;
S.Salem 1, Jesuit 0
Tualatin 4, Southridge1
Thurston 2, Westview 3
Sunset 4, Lakeridge 2

Analysis (my own observations/opinions/thoughts)
I read that South just played with more heart and wanted it more. Didn't see the match so, can't comment.
Tualatin has been scored on their last 2 matches so, confronted with a solid defense, things could get interesting.
Westview was down 2 at half. I think a combination of Thurston coming out red hot then coasting and the wily veterans at Westview keeping the pressure contributed to a come from behind victory.
Sunset was also up by 2 at half and let Lakeridge back in the door. SHS able to manufacture 2 goals in the second to take the match.

QuarterFinals (my own observations/opinions/thoughts)
S.Salem at Tualatin - Never played at Tualatin but I can imagine the atmosphere will be anything but inviting for the Saxons. Timberwolves are a scoring machine but have shown just a tiny crack of vulnerability in the playoffs. If South can just hold them to 1 or 2 goals they stand a chance at an upset.
Westview at Sunset - Third time this year these two powerhouse have met with the Apollos getting the short end of the stick last time. No need to try to motivate either team, they flat out don't like each other. Sunset's defense has proven itself and their offense is firing on all cylinders. Westview's midfield and potent attack has racked up impressive numbers. This one could go to PK's really easily.

My picks (no easy task here)
S.Salem 1, Tualatin 2
Westview 2, Sunset 3 (PK's)

Final = Tualatin vs Sunset

Would encourage others to post their points of view. Good luck teams!

Tualatin/South Salem - Tualatin is playing with extreme heart right now. No injuries and a key returnee with Poppy back up top. Their forwards are on fire and honestly the team is connected. When a team really cares for one another it usually translates well on the field. The Southridge game was one of their best despite the one score they controlled almost the entire game. South Salem I believe has something to prove here as the lone team not from the metro area. They have a lot of seniors but I believe they do have some injuries to contend with. They have one of the top players in the state but she can't do it all on her own. Its going to be a physical battle and I believe whoever scores first will end up pulling out the victory. Its the playoffs, anything can happen.

Westview/Sunset - This is a crap shoot. Both teams have shown great strength but vulnerabilities as well. Westview has a small roster which may hurt them in the end. Both teams have all star talent. I believe Sunset has the stronger attack up front while Westview has the stronger defense including goalkeeper. This could be a bloody/physical battle and I am betting it will come down to PK's or an overtime goal. Too close to call.

You just never know in a playoff situation which team is going to prevail. I have seen some crazy things in my years on the sideline. A team that has more ammo on paper may lose to a lesser team with more heart. Happens all the time. Just look at the Mexico Vs the US women last year in the lead up to the World Cup. Or even state cup last year. The team with more heart usually prevails. Good luck to all!

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Tualatin/South Salem - Tualatin is playing with extreme heart right now. No injuries and a key returnee with Poppy back up top. Their forwards are on fire and honestly the team is connected. When a team really cares for one another it usually translates well on the field. The Southridge game was one of their best despite the one score they controlled almost the entire game. South Salem I believe has something to prove here as the lone team not from the metro area. They have a lot of seniors but I believe they do have some injuries to contend with. They have one of the top players in the state but she can't do it all on her own. Its going to be a physical battle and I believe whoever scores first will end up pulling out the victory. Its the playoffs, anything can happen.

Westview/Sunset - This is a crap shoot. Both teams have shown great strength but vulnerabilities as well. Westview has a small roster which may hurt them in the end. Both teams have all star talent. I believe Sunset has the stronger attack up front while Westview has the stronger defense including goalkeeper. This could be a bloody/physical battle and I am betting it will come down to PK's or an overtime goal. Too close to call.

You just never know in a playoff situation which team is going to prevail. I have seen some crazy things in my years on the sideline. A team that has more ammo on paper may lose to a lesser team with more heart. Happens all the time. Just look at the Mexico Vs the US women last year in the lead up to the World Cup. Or even state cup last year. The team with more heart usually prevails. Good luck to all!

Great evaluation and good read. Thanks.

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OK, lets get away from ref bad calls and JHS bashing and back to what the thread was originally meant to be, predictions and analysis.

Last week;
S.Salem 1, Jesuit 0
Tualatin 4, Southridge1
Thurston 2, Westview 3
Sunset 4, Lakeridge 2

Analysis (my own observations/opinions/thoughts)
I read that South just played with more heart and wanted it more. Didn't see the match so, can't comment.
Tualatin has been scored on their last 2 matches so, confronted with a solid defense, things could get interesting.
Westview was down 2 at half. I think a combination of Thurston coming out red hot then coasting and the wily veterans at Westview keeping the pressure contributed to a come from behind victory.
Sunset was also up by 2 at half and let Lakeridge back in the door. SHS able to manufacture 2 goals in the second to take the match.

QuarterFinals (my own observations/opinions/thoughts)
S.Salem at Tualatin - Never played at Tualatin but I can imagine the atmosphere will be anything but inviting for the Saxons. Timberwolves are a scoring machine but have shown just a tiny crack of vulnerability in the playoffs. If South can just hold them to 1 or 2 goals they stand a chance at an upset.
Westview at Sunset - Third time this year these two powerhouse have met with the Apollos getting the short end of the stick last time. No need to try to motivate either team, they flat out don't like each other. Sunset's defense has proven itself and their offense is firing on all cylinders. Westview's midfield and potent attack has racked up impressive numbers. This one could go to PK's really easily.

My picks (no easy task here)
S.Salem 1, Tualatin 2
Westview 2, Sunset 3 (PK's)

Final = Tualatin vs Sunset

Would encourage others to post their points of view. Good luck teams!

My picks

S.Salem 1, Tualatin 3 (tualatin is stronger with more depth and experience across the whole team)

Westview 2, Sunset 1 (westview will pull it out in the end in the closing minutes on a hard drive)

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My picks

S.Salem 1, Tualatin 3 (tualatin is stronger with more depth and experience across the whole team)

Westview 2, Sunset 1 (westview will pull it out in the end in the closing minutes on a hard drive)

Hey Westview, watch out for the "hard drive". Shhh, don't let them know I know what they are up to.

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So far all of an explanation we have is that they didn't "get er done". I guess its ok that you get 9 shots from highly talented player and none find the net. Yeah that’s a real good excuse for having the BEST talent. Seriously is all you Jesuit parents and defends have is that "is soccer"? Now who is the soccer ignoramus?

Do you all realize that these are EXCUSES for both the players and the coach LOOOOOOSING to teams with handful players with equal talent?

How about things like: It’s difficult to developed chemistry or they don't reverse the ball or they are young and still working on passing in the coach’s scheme?

No all you have so far is the coach is good. How about you tell us WHY!

Okay. So to give you an explanation, we can combine all posts related to the subject...
It appears Jesuit showed up with better players who may not have gotten "up for the game." As a result their head coach who doesn't know how to use the talent on his roster failed also to properly motivate them resulting in the team with more shots taken failing to finish any opportunities, which means it only took one goal for South Salem to defeat them when the Jesuit goalie blew a save she should have had. Did we get that right?...

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Okay. So to give you an explanation, we can combine all posts related to the subject...
It appears Jesuit showed up with better players who may not have gotten "up for the game." As a result their head coach who doesn't know how to use the talent on his roster failed also to properly motivate them resulting in the team with more shots taken failing to finish any opportunities, which means it only took one goal for South Salem to defeat them when the Jesuit goalie blew a save she should have had. Did we get that right?...

I wasn't necessarily looking for a particular game analysis but an explanation as to how a team with sooooo much talent could not dominate every game. I proposed a coaching issue as good coaches do more than motivate players for particular games they are charged with blending talent and putting players in complementary positions and developing a scheme/style that takes advantage of those talents.

Since the players at Jesuit do not play boot ball on their club teams I would have to assume they are all capable of playing possession soccer and the front line players have the ability to make good service into the box and or play over laps etc. Now if the problem is that those receiving the service can't finish or the players have not developed enough chemistry to perfect the timing of their runs then those are answer to the question but those answers point back to a coaching issue because talented players can finish if they are practicing those aspects of the game.

I have not seen any evaluations on the coachs tactic's and or responses to South's tactics.