High School Soccer

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Tualatin- 0 Sunset- 2

Tualatin will have a difficult time against a very organized defense that is already very stingy. Can they make adjustments? No and the reason being is that they have had an especially weak schedule, and adjustments have not been necessary. Sunset has offensive weapons all over the field, something Tualatin has not seen until this Saturday. If they can handle the speed of Sunset (left, right, middle) then they'll be ok. We'll see. should be entertaining.

Im thinking Tualatin- 2 Sunset- 1

Nobody has played them yet that mounted any real challenge. You might think that they have played in a "weaker" league, but in reality, even those in the post season have not stood a chance against them.

This is a team that so far (with and without it's star forward) has risen above all comers. Sunset is going to have to bring something new to the game if they want to overtake this team in the end. Their 2nd half dynamics and broad playing abilities are what set them apart.

You are correct though, this will be a good game to watch.

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I don't buy the argument that these girls haven't seen tough enough competition along the way. Remember that most of them see good competition throughout the year on their club teams, and have probably been tested at some point in the playoffs.

As a Westview parent, I thought all of our opponents from the second round an on, kept pace with us. In some cases I even thought we were lucky to get the win.

No dog in this fight, but I think the game will be closer than 2-0, based solely on the opinion that since both teams got through tough brackets, they're both probably pretty darn solid teams.

Good luck to both teams!

I certainly agree it's going to be a dog fight and I also agree that, if it doesn't go to PK's, it's going to be a 1-0 or at best 2-1 match. I will question the statement regarding THS above; "Remember that most of them see good competition throughout the year on their club teams..." This may be true but facing good competition in club does not always equate to the same outcome on high school team. New coach, new styles, new teammates. Look at the NBA players in the olympics for example. All outstanding all-stars in their own right. Put together as a team, not so much.
This fact though, by no stretch, will deter from this being an outstanding championship match. (You noticed how I never actually identified a winner..... ;) )

Best of luck to both squads.

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I certainly agree it's going to be a dog fight and I also agree that, if it doesn't go to PK's, it's going to be a 1-0 or at best 2-1 match. I will question the statement regarding THS above; "Remember that most of them see good competition throughout the year on their club teams..." This may be true but facing good competition in club does not always equate to the same outcome on high school team. New coach, new styles, new teammates. Look at the NBA players in the olympics for example. All outstanding all-stars in their own right. Put together as a team, not so much.
This fact though, by no stretch, will deter from this being an outstanding championship match. (You noticed how I never actually identified a winner..... ;) )

Best of luck to both squads.

chicken...:)

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chicken...:)

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!! Squawk Squawk Ha Ha Ha Too close to call! ;)

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I don't know a whole lot about Sunset so I can't comment but I have heard they are fast which could be a problem for Tualatin as Canby was fast and caused some problems. I do know some of their players and they are talented.

10 of Tualatin's 11 Starters this year were either club state cup (OPL) winners or finalists last year as well as some being Surf cup winners and finalists. I think someone argued they didn't have experience earlier so just trying to make people realize most of the girls have been in this situation before. I am pretty sure they are prepared. I think one of the players will be out due to ODP which could hurt but they have a deep bench as well.

South Salem was definitely a strong contender don't let any article you have read fool you. They just simply didn't push at the end as hard as they should have to tie the game up and Tualatin did a ridiculously good job of executing their plan and keeping the ball away from them and man marking their strong player(s). I think this will probably be a 1 goal victory for either side. Anyone could win.

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6a/5a/4a

Sunset over Tualatin in OT. 3-1. Excellent defenses but I see THS getting behind earlier and then trying to open it up in the second half, leading to a couple cheap goals late for S.

Sherwood 2-0 over Wilsonville. Nice ride by Wilsonville but the keeper has had to deal with a barrage of firepower and that will continue. Awesome job until now but a couple will go in for S. I will be very surprised if W gets more than a few shots on frame.

Sisters over Gladstone, 1-1 then on pk's. Both with strong defenses, but both with very strong individual talent at forward and center mid. Very close match with keeper experience being the difference in a shootout.

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6a/5a/4a

Sunset over Tualatin in OT. 3-1. Excellent defenses but I see THS getting behind earlier and then trying to open it up in the second half, leading to a couple cheap goals late for S.

Sherwood 2-0 over Wilsonville. Nice ride by Wilsonville but the keeper has had to deal with a barrage of firepower and that will continue. Awesome job until now but a couple will go in for S. I will be very surprised if W gets more than a few shots on frame.

Sisters over Gladstone, 1-1 then on pk's. Both with strong defenses, but both with very strong individual talent at forward and center mid. Very close match with keeper experience being the difference in a shootout.

Sunset 2-1. Sunset speed wins out.
Sherwood 3-0. Maybe closer if Wilsonville just digs in and prays.
Gladstone over Sisters on pk's. 1-1. Gladstone gets 2nd championship in 3 years.

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Missing the Point

Is it all about Money for you. Go get the training and do the work. Many of the referee have paid their dues and hung through all the crap thrown at them by uninformed parents that hardly know the rules.

I will not disagree with more training, but this is not a thing you do full time. This is a part time job that receives not approval ratings from anyone.

Lets start with responsibility for the game.
- Players make mistakes on the field all the time handling the ball or covering players. Players have a ton of responsibility for how the game goes. Where are you calling them out???
- Coaches make mistakes is picking players, the type of formations, where players are played on the fields, when players are sub in, and their instructions from the bench. Coaches also have ton of responsibility for the outcome of the game. Are you going to call them out???

No lets blame the guy in the Yellow (or whatever color jersey) for the outcome. He is responsible for what team puts in the effort or not, who scores the goal or not.

This line of reasoning is full of Crap. The Referee can have a impact on the game, but most of the errors happen by the players/coaches that got them into this problem.

I am thankful for them as a person out there on the field.

You and others continue to miss the point:

Yes there are good ref's out there just not enough.

The balance need more IN SEASON training but we should expect to pay for results of that training as we would expect to pay for a more experienced/trained employee.

We need to pay more to get three things:
1. Retain the “good” refs.
2. People who care about doing a good job.
3. People who are trained to do a good job.

When I say pay more I’m not asking parents to pay hundreds of dollars more each year just $40-50 for Club, $20 more for High School and $5 more per tournament.

Continuing to let the system fester with the mentality that refs should be doing it out of the love for the game and/or for pocket change will continue to limit the pool and attract less than qualified/motivated individuals.

The tired old line “if you have a problem sign up to be a ref” does nothing to solve the problem and would ONLY increase the number of untrained and inexperienced officials. Additionally, I suspect few if any of the parents who have the resources to pay for premier soccer would be willing to sacrifice their family time for $15 an hour pretax and having to work with less than serious co-workers.

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Sunset 2-1. Sunset speed wins out.
Sherwood 3-0. Maybe closer if Wilsonville just digs in and prays.
Gladstone over Sisters on pk's. 1-1. Gladstone gets 2nd championship in 3 years.

Wilsonville doesn't have the depth that Sherwood has so I will agree with the 3-0 Sherwood
I am picking Sisters over Gladstone 1-0

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As much as I want Sunset, I just don't see it.

Tualatin has the better offense and a deeper bench. Sunset just hasn't scored all that much. 1 against Century-Come on, they had to have had many opportunities so why 1-0, 1 against Sheldon - ok, 4 against Lakeridge but two were PKs. 1 against Westview but a PK. So unless they get a PK I don't see them breaking through Tualatin's defense.

Tualatin has taken advantage of the lesser teams. Now granted Tualatin has not been up against as high caliber a team as Sunset during league but think they are ready to prove everyone wrong.

So Tualatin 1-0

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As much as I want Sunset, I just don't see it.

Tualatin has the better offense and a deeper bench. Sunset just hasn't scored all that much. 1 against Century-Come on, they had to have had many opportunities so why 1-0, 1 against Sheldon - ok, 4 against Lakeridge but two were PKs. 1 against Westview but a PK. So unless they get a PK I don't see them breaking through Tualatin's defense.

So you're saying that because Sunset does enough to win, and creates opportunities to score (by causing a PK) that they somehow are a lesser team?

Tualatin has taken advantage of the lesser teams. Now granted Tualatin has not been up against as high caliber a team as Sunset during league but think they are ready to prove everyone wrong.

So Tualatin 1-0

And now you say that Tualatin hasn't seen a higher caliber team as Sunset.

But you think they are ready to prove everyone wrong.

Gotcha. Sort of.

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So you're saying that because Sunset does enough to win, and creates opportunities to score (by causing a PK) that they somehow are a lesser team?

And now you say that Tualatin hasn't seen a higher caliber team as Sunset.

But you think they are ready to prove everyone wrong.

Gotcha. Sort of.

No I am not saying they are a lesser team. Sunset is a fabulous team or they would not have gotten this far. My opinion is I don't think that Sunset can get past the Tualatin defense unless it is a PK. Yes, I do agree Sunset is a team that can draw PK's and that is definitely as legit a goal as an outright goal. They drew it against Century, Lakeridge and Westview. So my point (opinion) is they won't score unless a PK. I think chances of creating a PK is slimmer than Tualatin scoring on Sunset.

No I said "Higher Caliber In LEAGUE". Tualatin met with Southridge and did just fine (4-1 better than Sunset in both league matches). And met with South Salem an even better team and scored. Everyone is saying Tualatin isn't as good as they look because of lack of competition in league. They are ready to prove everyone wrong. And in my opinion with what I have seen from both teams that Tualatin will win.

I am sorry if you feel you have to "Get Me". It's just my opinion.

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No I am not saying they are a lesser team. Sunset is a fabulous team or they would not have gotten this far. My opinion is I don't think that Sunset can get past the Tualatin defense unless it is a PK. Yes, I do agree Sunset is a team that can draw PK's and that is definitely as legit a goal as an outright goal. They drew it against Century, Lakeridge and Westview. So my point (opinion) is they won't score unless a PK. I think chances of creating a PK is slimmer than Tualatin scoring on Sunset.

No I said "Higher Caliber In LEAGUE". Tualatin met with Southridge and did just fine (4-1 better than Sunset in both league matches). And met with South Salem an even better team and scored. Everyone is saying Tualatin isn't as good as they look because of lack of competition in league. They are ready to prove everyone wrong. And in my opinion with what I have seen from both teams that Tualatin will win.

I am sorry if you feel you have to "Get Me". It's just my opinion.

Don't be so defensive. Nobody is out to "Get You". It's just your opinion. I was wondering the same thing too. I just think your opinion is funny saying Sunset won't score unless it's a PK. Frankly, whether it's a PK or a free kick, a corner kick or a flat out score, it all counts as 1. And as Sunset has shown throughout the playoffs, that's all it takes.
This is my opinion.

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;660619]Don't be so defensive. Nobody is out to "Get You". It's just your opinion. I was wondering the same thing too. I just think your opinion is funny saying Sunset won't score unless it's a PK. Frankly, whether it's a PK or a free kick, a corner kick or a flat out score, it all counts as 1. And as Sunset has shown throughout the playoffs, that's all it takes.
This is my opinion


I am not disputing the fact that a goal is a goal whether it's a PK or not. I never said that. I am saying that I think Tualatin will win. And my previous statements were why I think that.

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Don't be so defensive. Nobody is out to "Get You". It's just your opinion. I was wondering the same thing too. I just think your opinion is funny saying Sunset won't score unless it's a PK. Frankly, whether it's a PK or a free kick, a corner kick or a flat out score, it all counts as 1. And as Sunset has shown throughout the playoffs, that's all it takes.
This is my opinion


I am not disputing the fact that a goal is a goal whether it's a PK or not. I never said that. I am saying that I think Tualatin will win. And my previous statements were why I think that.

I think Sunset will win......bah ha ha ha. Sorry, couldn't resist. But I do.