OCYS Consolidated Thread

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It's not spin to state facts, and for the 3rd time, both parties were to blame to some degree. The coach should never have confronted the ref about the call and the ref shouldn't have head-butted the coach. Blaming the coach entirely for this unfortunate event is as spinny as it gets.

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It's not spin to state facts, and for the 3rd time, both parties were to blame to some degree. The coach should never have confronted the ref about the call and the ref shouldn't have head-butted the coach. Blaming the coach entirely for this unfortunate event is as spinny as it gets.

So the guy who initiates the confrontation (OCYS Coach) is only 1/2 accountable for the incident? Sorry, i'm not buyin' what your sellin'. Further- why call it an "unfortunate event"? A flood or a hurricane are unfortunate events. Call it what it was- an assault by a coach on a referee.

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No, I think the coach is more to blame for initiating the confrontation. However, the facts are the facts and putting the blame entirely on the coach shows your obvious bias. Why else would you be completely focused on the coach and not a referee who also should be able to control himself without resorting to violence?

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No, I think the coach is more to blame for initiating the confrontation. However, the facts are the facts and putting the blame entirely on the coach shows your obvious bias. Why else would you be completely focused on the coach and not a referee who also should be able to control himself without resorting to violence?

Because i don't believe the "late addition" of the poster who says the referee head-butted the coach. I don't think those are facts in evidence. I think it's an attempt to confuse facts with speculation.

No one disputes the coach charged the referee. No one disputes the coach grabbed the referee by the throat or neck. A couple people have said the ref 'head-butted' the coach.

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So you admit your campaign to have the tournament cancelled failed completely?

Good you've passed your denial stage. However, you seem to have netered a math phase which is not normally part of the stages of acceptance.

nice try- but I never had a "campaign to have the tournament cancelled". Whether to go forward with the tournament is the decision of the Directorship. I've never posted anything but factual information about the tournament from GotSoccer.

If OCYS' intent was to put on a small junior-level weekend tournament, it's a huge success. I'm sure it will be loads of fun, with balloons and snowcones the highlight for most of the players.

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nice try- but I never had a "campaign to have the tournament cancelled". Whether to go forward with the tournament is the decision of the Directorship. I've never posted anything but factual information about the tournament from GotSoccer.

If OCYS' intent was to put on a small junior-level weekend tournament, it's a huge success. I'm sure it will be loads of fun, with balloons and snowcones the highlight for most of the players.

Your original thread was called "Is city cup cancelled?" and then you posted nothing but suggestions and innuendos about cancellation and poor attendance for approximately 2 months.

You failed.

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No, I think the coach is more to blame for initiating the confrontation. However, the facts are the facts and putting the blame entirely on the coach shows your obvious bias. Why else would you be completely focused on the coach and not a referee who also should be able to control himself without resorting to violence?

The blame is no the coach no the ref....very simple if the coach were not had getting out of hand to begin with none of this would happen. So stop putting the blame on the ref....I am sure if someone assaulted you you will have responded. It is pure instinct but at the end who started the altercation? THE COACHHHHH...

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Your original thread was called "Is city cup cancelled?" and then you posted nothing but suggestions and innuendos about cancellation and poor attendance for approximately 2 months.

You failed.

As folks keep saying - don't feed the troll. Their entire pathetic little world comprises one online virtual bulletin board where they ignorantly believe that they have some level of significance and importance (the reality being that they dont have the intelligence to know otherwise). All hail the almighty "opinionator" aka Troll.

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No, I think the coach is more to blame for initiating the confrontation. However, the facts are the facts and putting the blame entirely on the coach shows your obvious bias. Why else would you be completely focused on the coach and not a referee who also should be able to control himself without resorting to violence?

I am not with or against OCYS therefore I am a neutral party.

The Coach was wrong. Cut and dry. You are under no circumstances allowed to even touch a referee (minus shaking hands) so approaching a referee and choking him is unacceptable.

Maybe the referee headbutted him to get OUT of the headlock.
Whether he did or not does not change the fact that the coach put hands on him first. How else would the referee head butt him? Do you honestly think the referee ran up to the coach spun around and head butted him from behind? Get serious.

OCYS be adult enough to accept what your coach did.

This is what people all across this country think people from Florida are stupid.

Between not handling a damn election, letting Casey Anthony off and sentencing a lady to 20 years for firing a warning shot into the ceiling for self defense while letting a murderer go completely free is screwed up and all you who think that coach is innocent ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Think about your kids and stop being STUPID

Teach your kids right So they don't grow up stupid by believing this crap is justified.

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First off, the player was very close to being offside. He started his run in his own half but your son's pass was late so the player was right at the line. He was offside from my vantage point, but it was very close. The ref had no linesman on that side and he shouldn't have been questioned about that call.

But let's be absolutely clear about who threw the first blow. The coach definately got into the referee's face after he was red carded, but he did not touch the referee until after the ref head butted him. This was witnessed by both benches and for anyone close to the action this fact is not in dispute. My guess is the starter of this thread was the fat guy in the blue shirt that went charging across the field to insert himself into the fight like some half-***ed Rambo. He was on the complete opposite side of the field and would not have been able to see the head-butt from his angle.

I don't condone the coach's actions, he was out of line and initiated the confrontation. However, 2 wrongs don't make a right and the referree should also be suspended.

Hue's fault according to Orlando City Youth Soccer reports. It's all his fault.

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I am not with or against OCYS therefore I am a neutral party.

The Coach was wrong. Cut and dry. You are under no circumstances allowed to even touch a referee (minus shaking hands) so approaching a referee and choking him is unacceptable.

Maybe the referee headbutted him to get OUT of the headlock.
Whether he did or not does not change the fact that the coach put hands on him first. How else would the referee head butt him? Do you honestly think the referee ran up to the coach spun around and head butted him from behind? Get serious.

OCYS be adult enough to accept what your coach did.

This is what people all across this country think people from Florida are stupid.

Between not handling a damn election, letting Casey Anthony off and sentencing a lady to 20 years for firing a warning shot into the ceiling for self defense while letting a murderer go completely free is screwed up and all you who think that coach is innocent ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Think about your kids and stop being STUPID

Teach your kids right So they don't grow up stupid by believing this crap is justified.

Did you personally witness it?

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spinnnn. "blame the victim, rather than the aggressor"

Our Orlando City coach said it was a bad call so the ref deserved what he got. We've discussed it over with our children and we all agree it was a bad call by the official. These refs need to be held accountable

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I am not with or against OCYS therefore I am a neutral party.

The Coach was wrong. Cut and dry. You are under no circumstances allowed to even touch a referee (minus shaking hands) so approaching a referee and choking him is unacceptable.

Maybe the referee headbutted him to get OUT of the headlock.
Whether he did or not does not change the fact that the coach put hands on him first. How else would the referee head butt him? Do you honestly think the referee ran up to the coach spun around and head butted him from behind? Get serious.

OCYS be adult enough to accept what your coach did.

This is what people all across this country think people from Florida are stupid.

Between not handling a damn election, letting Casey Anthony off and sentencing a lady to 20 years for firing a warning shot into the ceiling for self defense while letting a murderer go completely free is screwed up and all you who think that coach is innocent ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Think about your kids and stop being STUPID

Teach your kids right So they don't grow up stupid by believing this crap is justified.

I continue to be amazed at the ignorance of people on this topic. Order of events as happened:

1) Coach complains about "no call" for offsides
2) Referee red cards coach
3) Coach goes ballistic and approaches referee
4) Referee head butts coach
5) Coach puts referee in headlock/choke hold
6) chaos ensues
7) Police arrive - no one arrested

the coach is clearly in the wrong here, however the referee escalated the situation by initiating physical contact. While I agree that this wouldn't have happened had the coach kept his cool over a non call that we all see every game - the referee should also get some criticism based on initiating the physical aspect of this sad situation.

As far as letting murderers go free and/or locking up others - I wasn't at any of those trials so I will trust our jury system since they get to hear all of the evidence that gets presented - not just what the talking heads with their various agendas want us to hear.

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lol- brick only leads his teams. gb wants the title but not what comes with it ( responsibility )

gb handles himself in board meetings but on field issues like a scared cat in heat.

Listen you all know that Frenchie would never get into some kind of a physical confrontation. He has actually walked around a building to avoid a parent. He also avoids coaches that he knows want to, well you know.

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