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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostCommodities. If you time the market you will do great.
Further, you don't have to do all four years of ECNL to get the benefits and or offers. At the back end of the spectrum once you have your verbal your U17/junior year there is no requirement to play your U18/senior year. Additionally, on the front end not every female player is physically developed at U14 therefore waiting until U15 to play ECNL makes the most sense assuming they have the desire AND ability!
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostExcept as has been conclusively been established all four years do not cost $8,000 each.
Further, you don't have to do all four years of ECNL to get the benefits and or offers. At the back end of the spectrum once you have your verbal your U17/junior year there is no requirement to play your U18/senior year. Additionally, on the front end not every female player is physically developed at U14 therefore waiting until U15 to play ECNL makes the most sense assuming they have the desire AND ability!
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Cost of ECNL is equal to the value of a scholarship. Only difference is you would have made $10-20 grand in interest on the money spent on ECNL.
Almost worth it for the small handful of ECNL players who actually get scholarships but not quite.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostCost of ECNL is equal to the value of a scholarship. Only difference is you would have made $10-20 grand in interest on the money spent on ECNL.
Almost worth it for the small handful of ECNL players who actually get scholarships but not quite.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSpread the cost over a full year it's not bad. FC Portland charges a surcharge on travel costs.
Parent travel is on top of that.
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[QUOTE=Unregistered;1720394]Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIf "almost" in your 21 years equals 5:1 for ECNL, than you would be right.[/QUOTE
Considering ECNL in Oregon has only been around for two years. How many of these girls in your 5:1 ratio actually committed verbally or signed prior to ECNL. Your true argument won't be valid until the 01's start committing.
Like all other sports the kids have to put themselves out there and advocate for themselves, contact coaches, send in video and email. If you are good and a college level athlete you will get noticed if you put yourself out there. No matter who you play for. College coaches go to ECNL events and to Non ECNL events compare the lists at the different tourneys.
First of all ECNL in Oregon has only been around for one year, most teams are only a few games into the second year. All the 2017's were recruited after ECNL and seven of the ten were recruited directly from ECNL events. The other three may or may not of been recruited with the help of ECNL. I kind of believe they would of been recruited locally anyway. I also agree that if you are a college athlete and you put yourself out there you will get looks. However, the majority of schools are recruiting from ECNL events. Do they still go to Non ECNL events? Yes they do but the numbers at those events are way down, limiting the chances of getting recruited. I agree if you are in the top 5% coaches will come look and find you. That is a very small amount of kids and they are usually committed freshman year and almost always by the end of their sophomore year. If you are doing all the things you said in your post, that costs a lot of money, might as well play ECNL where you know the coaches will be watching.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe beauty is no one is forcing you to play ECNLand one one is forcing people to pay for ODP or pay for iD camps or pay for showcase events.
For sure, to each his/her own. But if a college degree is the goal, you need to sort through the numbers and the probabilities. Maybe it's not the goal. Maybe it's part of the goal. But if that's your number 1 reason for dumping 10's of thousands into youth soccer, you may wish you hadn't. There are so many variables. Let's say you invested $40,000 in ECNL over the years with the intent to get a scholarship and play college. What if a lesser academic school is your only option for a partial scholarship for soccer. You may be inclined to settle for that the lesser school. In the long run, it may not be smart.
All I am saying is that it is not an obvious slam dunk to play ECNL for many families with top players. Everything needs to be weighed out.
That's why everyone and their brother should be hoping for a USSDA type of structure. If all of this was only $500, many of the variables and questions would be taken out of the equation... or even if it was $1000 or $2000.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI guess. I think it's worth laying out the information. I think many people think ECNL is a ticket to a full ride scholarships. That may be true for a select few. But it's also true that you may have paid for 2-3 years of a quality University by saving the $ and investing.
For sure, to each his/her own. But if a college degree is the goal, you need to sort through the numbers and the probabilities. Maybe it's not the goal. Maybe it's part of the goal. But if that's your number 1 reason for dumping 10's of thousands into youth soccer, you may wish you hadn't. There are so many variables. Let's say you invested $40,000 in ECNL over the years with the intent to get a scholarship and play college. What if a lesser academic school is your only option for a partial scholarship for soccer. You may be inclined to settle for that the lesser school. In the long run, it may not be smart.
All I am saying is that it is not an obvious slam dunk to play ECNL for many families with top players. Everything needs to be weighed out.
That's why everyone and their brother should be hoping for a USSDA type of structure. If all of this was only $500, many of the variables and questions would be taken out of the equation... or even if it was $1000 or $2000.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI am confused because the WNT has multiple Gold medals and World Cups and most of the USWNT are ECNL alums. Something is working, but I am just a soccer Dad. BTW my daughter had NO chance of being on USWNT but ECNL certainly offers the best competition and the travel cost is not for the faint of heart
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RICHMOND, VA (November 4, 2015) - The U20 US Women’s National Team recently traveled to Madrid, Spain to continue their preparation for the 2016 FIFA U20 Women's World Cup. The 21 player roster was over 90% ECNL players/alums, which speaks to the quality of competition within the league and the development of female youth soccer across the country.
The team defeated both Atletico Madrid and Rayo Vallecano with 3-0 and 4-1 victories respectively. This past week the schedule for the upcoming CONCACAF U20 Women's Championship was released, placing the US in Group B with Mexico, Haiti and Panama. The competition will take place December 3-13 in San Pedro Sula, Honduras.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostHow many ECNL players on USWNT U18 roster?
19 Current ECNL players to 5 Non-ECLN players
U19 US Women's National Team Roster:
21 Current ECNL players to 3 Non-ECLN players
U20 US Women's National Team Roster:
22 Current ECNL players to 2 Non-ECLN players
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[QUOTE=Unregistered;1720560]Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
First of all ECNL in Oregon has only been around for one year, most teams are only a few games into the second year. All the 2017's were recruited after ECNL and seven of the ten were recruited directly from ECNL events. The other three may or may not of been recruited with the help of ECNL. I kind of believe they would of been recruited locally anyway. I also agree that if you are a college athlete and you put yourself out there you will get looks. However, the majority of schools are recruiting from ECNL events. Do they still go to Non ECNL events? Yes they do but the numbers at those events are way down, limiting the chances of getting recruited. I agree if you are in the top 5% coaches will come look and find you. That is a very small amount of kids and they are usually committed freshman year and almost always by the end of their sophomore year. If you are doing all the things you said in your post, that costs a lot of money, might as well play ECNL where you know the coaches will be watching.
What bothers me by all the post is everyone thinks their product is best and the other either cost too much or is subpar to the other. No matter what program you go to there is an elevated cost.
The real problem in Oregon is having two ECNL and an academy team has spread the talent out to thin. There are players on all the teams that shouldn't be where they are. There are also kids that would easily be on the ECNL or Academy teams and for what ever reason choose not to.
History in Oregon has shown us that the majority of scholarship kids have come from FC and THUSC no matter what league they have played in. Plenty have done it without ECNL or the like.
In the end it's about exposure. The league, the show case tournaments, ODP, sending emails to college coaches, sending highlight film to coaches all takes time and money and a commitment from the athlete and families.
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