OPL Spending Money Like Mad

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My dk's are well past the pdp age. But I'm aware that pdp is intended to give top talent across the league a chance to pool and play other top talent. It's not well communicated and 'politics'/coach favorites does play into it. In general I like the idea of identifying top talent and giving them opportunities. There could be a little polish on this program.

Who do you think is paying for the Thorns academy? Stop being ignorant hypocrites. This thread is being driven by the Timbers. The split was over Gavin wanting OPL money. This thread and the ignorant hysteria is from the Timbers who think they have a right to this money.

The answer to this issue is in the OPL by laws. The stupidity being posted here serve on purpose and that is the Timbers money grab from youth soccer.

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So two wrongs make a right? You know how stupid you sound? As I said, I'm not happy abotu either thing.

If your child plays in the OPL ask your DOC. Otherwise stop,worrying about it's the OPL is countering the a Timbers by eliminatiopng fees this season. Live with it. Go back to the OPL if you want to take advantage of his opportunity.

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I get that and I know it's a part of youth sports. That doesn't mean we should always just accept it however. I would hope that OPL would have more scruples but apparently they don't.

Are you seriously upset that OPL is providing free soccer this fall? Really? The OPL is running soccer for FREE. Would you be happy if they increased their prices to match the Timbers increases that you get nothing for that go to cover their Thorns academy.

The OPL is running the fall season for FREE! How is that bad?

This sounds like the Timbers and Gavin are upset because this puts pressure on OYSA.

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People complain that the OPL accumulated money without giving anything back. Now they give back by eliminating fees for this fall and people complain. It looks like there is. Nothing the OPL can do to make people happy.

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Not True

People complain that the OPL accumulated money without giving anything back. Now they give back by eliminating fees for this fall and people complain. It looks like there is. Nothing the OPL can do to make people happy.

When the OPL was sending the Timbers $50K per year the TA was not hating on OPL. It was only after the OPL turned off the money did GW take his ball and go home to the OYSA.

If the OPL started to pay the Timbers to run their league the hate would stop!

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Are you seriously upset that OPL is providing free soccer this fall? Really? The OPL is running soccer for FREE. Would you be happy if they increased their prices to match the Timbers increases that you get nothing for that go to cover their Thorns academy.

The OPL is running the fall season for FREE! How is that bad?

This sounds like the Timbers and Gavin are upset because this puts pressure on OYSA.

No. I'm upset that they are taking money and using it to buy lunches to a select few. I'm not thrilled that they are giving free fees, but at least that benefits every player in OPL rather than just who they select to benefit.

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No. I'm upset that they are taking money and using it to buy lunches to a select few. I'm not thrilled that they are giving free fees, but at least that benefits every player in OPL rather than just who they select to benefit.

Are you unhappy that OYSA is subsidizing the Thorns academy and DA?

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No. I'm upset that they are taking money and using it to buy lunches to a select few. I'm not thrilled that they are giving free fees, but at least that benefits every player in OPL rather than just who they select to benefit.

So you have issues with your Timber fees going to support their academy players for free? It's the many covering the cost for the best. Same thing OPL is doing here.

I see no difference.

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Hello.....is this thing on?

No. I'm upset that they are taking money and using it to buy lunches to a select few. I'm not thrilled that they are giving free fees, but at least that benefits every player in OPL rather than just who they select to benefit.

One more time. These kids are similar to kids in USYS Regional camps who ALSO get free food and lodging paid for with your USYS fees.

These are the "perks" for being at the top of EITHER youth soccer federation. Get it now?

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Are you seriously upset that OPL is providing free soccer this fall? Really? The OPL is running soccer for FREE. Would you be happy if they increased their prices to match the Timbers increases that you get nothing for that go to cover their Thorns academy.

The OPL is running the fall season for FREE! How is that bad?

This sounds like the Timbers and Gavin are upset because this puts pressure on OYSA.

This is my question. If you are getting the season for free, were your club fees reduced or are you getting a refund?

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This is my question. If you are getting the season for free, were your club fees reduced or are you getting a refund?

Ask your club.

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This is my question. If you are getting the season for free, were your club fees reduced or are you getting a refund?

All to do about nuuuuhting. Look everybody knows that there is no league fee so why do you think a club would try to "pocket" those fees? If "your" club is that unethical you need a new club.

There is no need for a "refund" because the windfall can be used for tournament expenses.

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Having a team or two play in a different state cup is far from removing all your teams in placing them in a separate and competing league. Has anyone asked the question, why did they leave the OPL? Could it be that TA clubs are given a break on their league fees, PCU help with the original Delta Park project and BSC a coaching position? We may never know but for some of you that think the OPL is so bad may want to look at their own clubs a little closer.

Perhaps the reason they left OPL was that the only conversation going on at the meetings was about ECNL and girls programs…I don't believe the intent was to have a total withdrawal, the intent was to move the boys to a league that gave a rip about boys. When the OPL saw these fees leave (they don't see players or care about players, they see fees) they told ES WS and PCU to get all the way out the door,because they were going to slam it.

It still doesn't change that WS ES and PCU were 3 of the 8 founding members.

You want to yell about bylaws, and their continuity, look at today's bylaws, according to them THUSC and FC, and some club that didn't even exist at the time OPL/OPC were founded are the only members.

The OPL bylaws cannot be trusted, because there is no history of the changes made, if there is awkward history they would like to forget they just delete the old bylaws and make new ones.

Bottom line ES WS and PCU had ownership/member status at creation of OPL. They were forced to leave, they need to be paid the capital value of their ownership.

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So if we "buy" your logic how about the Timbers send that $100,000 back to the OPC that they took over those two years since they delivered a fraction of the promised services?

Maybe go back to the bylaws and check…whoops those are the bylaws that were thrown out. The issue you are trying to drag out is a little more complicated there was a relationship between the Timbers and OPC, remember when every OPC league and tournament was branded as the timbers league…there was misunderstanding about what was included in the relationship. The Timbers side saw it as involving promotion, use of trademark, etc…

OPC claimed later it included an extensive player development curriculum and when this wasn't provided they demanded ALL of their money back.

Pretty simple situation to resolve in a business…you just look at the contract. In this situation there was no contract. Services had already been delivered, and OPC WANTED TO DEMAND A REFUND.

That is why it is good to have things in writing. it is also good to have the stones to admit you have made changes, keep old versions so you can go back…Since OPC deletes any trace of history you can't go back and claim anything.

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When the OPL was sending the Timbers $50K per year the TA was not hating on OPL. It was only after the OPL turned off the money did GW take his ball and go home to the OYSA.

If the OPL started to pay the Timbers to run their league the hate would stop!

When the OPL was paying the Timbers the TA Didn't exist. When the OPL tried to stiff the Timbers GW took his ball and went home. Now the OPL is trying to stiff their original members.

do you think OPL would even exist if not for John Bain from WS, and others from ES. So now you say they have no stays with OPL…the asylum really is being run by the monkeys.