OPL Spending Money Like Mad

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No. I'm upset that they are taking money and using it to buy lunches to a select few. I'm not thrilled that they are giving free fees, but at least that benefits every player in OPL rather than just who they select to benefit.

Actually the free fees will only go to teams from "member" clubs or teams that played last year…anyone else will pay fees, because apparently they aren't deserving of OPL's largesse...

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One more time. These kids are similar to kids in USYS Regional camps who ALSO get free food and lodging paid for with your USYS fees.

These are the "perks" for being at the top of EITHER youth soccer federation. Get it now?

If that is true than the fees should be paid by US Club, not by OPL…Get it now?

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Perhaps the reason they left OPL was that the only conversation going on at the meetings was about ECNL and girls programs…I don't believe the intent was to have a total withdrawal, the intent was to move the boys to a league that gave a rip about boys. When the OPL saw these fees leave (they don't see players or care about players, they see fees) they told ES WS and PCU to get all the way out the door,because they were going to slam it.

It still doesn't change that WS ES and PCU were 3 of the 8 founding members.

You want to yell about bylaws, and their continuity, look at today's bylaws, according to them THUSC and FC, and some club that didn't even exist at the time OPL/OPC were founded are the only members.

The OPL bylaws cannot be trusted, because there is no history of the changes made, if there is awkward history they would like to forget they just delete the old bylaws and make new ones.

Bottom line ES WS and PCU had ownership/member status at creation of OPL. They were forced to leave, they need to be paid the capital value of their ownership.

Bottom line is you are wrong. You made a mistake leaving the OPL. Gavin is NOT the benevolent dictator everyone thought he would be. Too bad for you. Go cry to someone who cares.

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You got to be kidding?

Maybe go back to the bylaws and check…whoops those are the bylaws that were thrown out. The issue you are trying to drag out is a little more complicated there was a relationship between the Timbers and OPC, remember when every OPC league and tournament was branded as the timbers league…there was misunderstanding about what was included in the relationship. The Timbers side saw it as involving promotion, use of trademark, etc…

OPC claimed later it included an extensive player development curriculum and when this wasn't provided they demanded ALL of their money back.

Pretty simple situation to resolve in a business…you just look at the contract. In this situation there was no contract. Services had already been delivered, and OPC WANTED TO DEMAND A REFUND.

That is why it is good to have things in writing. it is also good to have the stones to admit you have made changes, keep old versions so you can go back…Since OPC deletes any trace of history you can't go back and claim anything.

I hope your employer does not do random drug screenings because you are definitely HIGH on something.

So you are saying that the Timbers with a straight face told the OPC the $50K was a Brand Royalty fee? I got news for you it normally goes the OTHER way. The Brand business pays to get their brand put on things (see directors Mortgage). Though I was never in any room when this was discussed I NEVER heard it described by anyone who was in the room other than a fee for player and coach development.

Just because it was not in writing does not mean that there are persons who would testify under oath what it was intended for in addition to emails to confirm the promised content and missed delivery thereof.

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Actually the free fees will only go to teams from "member" clubs or teams that played last year…anyone else will pay fees, because apparently they aren't deserving of OPL's largesse...

Why help those who left in the first place. Decisions carry consequences. Moving to the TA and OYSA carries huge negative consequences for most of the clubs and their members but there are a few at the top that will gain from it; there always are...

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I hope your employer does not do random drug screenings because you are definitely HIGH on something.

So you are saying that the Timbers with a straight face told the OPC the $50K was a Brand Royalty fee? I got news for you it normally goes the OTHER way. The Brand business pays to get their brand put on things (see directors Mortgage). Though I was never in any room when this was discussed I NEVER heard it described by anyone who was in the room other than a fee for player and coach development.

Just because it was not in writing does not mean that there are persons who would testify under oath what it was intended for in addition to emails to confirm the promised content and missed delivery thereof.

And, really, all the Timbers had to do to satisfy the contract was to write down their coaching curriculum. Pretty easy: "Kick it long and have the fast kid chase it". I'll take my $50K now please!

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And, really, all the Timbers had to do to satisfy the contract was to write down their coaching curriculum. Pretty easy: "Kick it long and have the fast kid chase it". I'll take my $50K now please!

Please have the ECNL coaches stop calling our fast kids to try to recruit them over.

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it's simple

if you join an OYSA league and are a founding member of the OPC youwill get voted out of the OPL without due process or any chance for explanation.

but if you sign up for the OYSA state cup and are a founding member of the OPC you don't get voted out of the OPC.

or

if you sign up for the OYSA ODP program and are a founding member of the OPC you don't get voted out of the OPC.

or

if you sign up to coach in the OYSA Top Soccer program and are a founding member of the OPC you don't get voted out of the OPC.

or if you register to play in the ECNL and not the OPL and are a founding member of the OPC don't get voted of the OPC.

so in conclusion the first rule of the 'Oregon Premier Council' is you don't talk about the 'Oregon Premier Council.

Understood.

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I hope your employer does not do random drug screenings because you are definitely HIGH on something.

So you are saying that the Timbers with a straight face told the OPC the $50K was a Brand Royalty fee? I got news for you it normally goes the OTHER way. The Brand business pays to get their brand put on things (see directors Mortgage). Though I was never in any room when this was discussed I NEVER heard it described by anyone who was in the room other than a fee for player and coach development.

Just because it was not in writing does not mean that there are persons who would testify under oath what it was intended for in addition to emails to confirm the promised content and missed delivery thereof.

I am saying with a straight face there was a misunderstanding. One group believed they were getting one thing the other that they were giving something different. OPL at that time was desperately trying to separate their league, you may be too new to this game to remember how Every thing OPL shouted that it was the Timbers premier league, and the timbers state cup, and so on...

One of the weaknesses of the whole OPC structure was how much was conversation between 8 men, little documentation, and zero contracts.

Now if you talk to OPL people they will give you the party line you mentioned, because that is how they work changing history to fit their present needs. At the time it was going on there was no discussion of the "player curriculum" until the Timbers presented their bill, and OPL didn't want to pay it.

OPL was always trying to bet on the death blow to OYSA, to the point of obsession, and I believe they anticipated the Timbers deal would do them in...when it didn't they were less eager to pay.

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if you join an OYSA league and are a founding member of the OPC youwill get voted out of the OPL without due process or any chance for explanation.

but if you sign up for the OYSA state cup and are a founding member of the OPC you don't get voted out of the OPC.

or

if you sign up for the OYSA ODP program and are a founding member of the OPC you don't get voted out of the OPC.

or

if you sign up to coach in the OYSA Top Soccer program and are a founding member of the OPC you don't get voted out of the OPC.

or if you register to play in the ECNL and not the OPL and are a founding member of the OPC don't get voted of the OPC.

so in conclusion the first rule of the 'Oregon Premier Council' is you don't talk about the 'Oregon Premier Council.

Understood.

Prove that ET, WT, and PCU left the OPC "without due process". Put up or shut up, caveman.

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I am saying with a straight face there was a misunderstanding. One group believed they were getting one thing the other that they were giving something different. OPL at that time was desperately trying to separate their league, you may be too new to this game to remember how Every thing OPL shouted that it was the Timbers premier league, and the timbers state cup, and so on...

One of the weaknesses of the whole OPC structure was how much was conversation between 8 men, little documentation, and zero contracts.

Now if you talk to OPL people they will give you the party line you mentioned, because that is how they work changing history to fit their present needs. At the time it was going on there was no discussion of the "player curriculum" until the Timbers presented their bill, and OPL didn't want to pay it.

OPL was always trying to bet on the death blow to OYSA, to the point of obsession, and I believe they anticipated the Timbers deal would do them in...when it didn't they were less eager to pay.

Someone is revising history here, but I don't think it's the OPC. You must work for Gavin, huh?

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if you join an OYSA league and are a founding member of the OPC youwill get voted out of the OPL without due process or any chance for explanation.

but if you sign up for the OYSA state cup and are a founding member of the OPC you don't get voted out of the OPC.

or

if you sign up for the OYSA ODP program and are a founding member of the OPC you don't get voted out of the OPC.

or

if you sign up to coach in the OYSA Top Soccer program and are a founding member of the OPC you don't get voted out of the OPC.

or if you register to play in the ECNL and not the OPL and are a founding member of the OPC don't get voted of the OPC.

so in conclusion the first rule of the 'Oregon Premier Council' is you don't talk about the 'Oregon Premier Council.

Understood.

LOOOL! Talk about an absurd post. EST, WST and PCU stopped attending OPL board meetings. They basically quit. It's entirely their fault for being removed from the council.

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Why help those who left in the first place. Decisions carry consequences. Moving to the TA and OYSA carries huge negative consequences for most of the clubs and their members but there are a few at the top that will gain from it; there always are...

Gavin and WST are profiting handsomely from the move to OYSA.

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Please before you post again

LOOOL! Talk about an absurd post. EST, WST and PCU stopped attending OPL board meetings. They basically quit. It's entirely their fault for being removed from the council.

remember the first rule of the OPC.

"You don't talk about the OPC"

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Did they

freeze the reserves and stop the irresponsible spending of other's monies yet?

Please update.

Thanks in advance.