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Thanks coach, who supplements his income from ODP.

I'm the OP and that's the funniest thing I've read on here in a while. I'm about as far from a coach as you could get. But I guess everyone who disagrees with your world view must have a hidden agenda right? Thanks for the laugh I needed it on a Wednesday.

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I'm the OP and that's the funniest thing I've read on here in a while. I'm about as far from a coach as you could get. But I guess everyone who disagrees with your world view must have a hidden agenda right? Thanks for the laugh I needed it on a Wednesday.

You might be the OP, but reading the back over the last page of comments, you would appear to be answering your own posts as well.

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You might be the OP, but reading the back over the last page of comments, you would appear to be answering your own posts as well.

Wrong again! This is my 3rd post ever in this thread (my kid is an 01 so I was just checking out your thread for fun today). First post was telling why RTC was working for my girl and 2nd and 3rd replying to your paranoid responses. You are quite the conspiracy theorist...

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Here's what you need to know.

. The tryouts are a joke. I've watched them three years in a row and you may have noticed an extreme lack of attention by the coaches. They barely play attention and rarely write anything down.

. Every year there are head scratchers on who made the team and who got cut. Last year, the best player in the state (at an older) age group got cut and a B team bench player made it. Ask the coaches about it if you want to see the "glazed over" look. I think they might have their cat draw random numbers to select the team...

. The training and experience of working with other coaches and players is OUTSTANDING. At least with my two girls. It's what $400 and you get $200 worth of gear (now nike). Good coaches, training, networking.

Not perfect but 100% worth it.

Best player in the state? Must not be a universal assessment otherwise she would have made it. Perhaps only in your eyes is she the best player. The assessment process isn't perfect but rarely do top players get passed over. Especially for RTC. Perhaps she's just a decent player who didn't tryout well.

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There is always going to be some baby who's kid doesn't make it or the coaches don't agree with the whining parent that they are top in the state so they ll whine and cry.

Have some respect for yourself.

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ODP is a joke.

My daughter has been in the RTC and state team. There has been huge amounts of favoritism. It is different coaching, but not any better then we have gotten from our club.
Next time you are there ask them when the last time someone from OR/SW Wa made the US team.

They will have a westside/eastside scrimmage pretty early on. Watch who they start with. There's your state pool. They all ready know who they are taking.

If your DK isn't starting in that match you can skip the tourney in Eugene if they even still do that. Because they won't make the team. Sorry, I should have said 'spoiler alert'.

They will keep one from the outlying areas, that way it looks like they have a chance at those RTC's, but don't fool yourself. And they are not making the players better. It's a $450 (rtc/tryout fee) multi-practice tryout.

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I'm the OP and that's the funniest thing I've read on here in a while. I'm about as far from a coach as you could get. But I guess everyone who disagrees with your world view must have a hidden agenda right? Thanks for the laugh I needed it on a Wednesday.

Pssssst. It's Thursday.

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ODP is a joke.

My daughter has been in the RTC and state team. There has been huge amounts of favoritism. It is different coaching, but not any better then we have gotten from our club.
Next time you are there ask them when the last time someone from OR/SW Wa made the US team.

They will have a westside/eastside scrimmage pretty early on. Watch who they start with. There's your state pool. They all ready know who they are taking.

If your DK isn't starting in that match you can skip the tourney in Eugene if they even still do that. Because they won't make the team. Sorry, I should have said 'spoiler alert'.

They will keep one from the outlying areas, that way it looks like they have a chance at those RTC's, but don't fool yourself. And they are not making the players better. It's a $450 (rtc/tryout fee) multi-practice tryout.

Of course it is. You should know that going in. Did anyone NOT from a Timbers club even make it? Save your money and time and go do some private training.

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ODP is a joke.

My daughter has been in the RTC and state team. There has been huge amounts of favoritism. It is different coaching, but not any better then we have gotten from our club.
Next time you are there ask them when the last time someone from OR/SW Wa made the US team.

They will have a westside/eastside scrimmage pretty early on. Watch who they start with. There's your state pool. They all ready know who they are taking.

If your DK isn't starting in that match you can skip the tourney in Eugene if they even still do that. Because they won't make the team. Sorry, I should have said 'spoiler alert'.

They will keep one from the outlying areas, that way it looks like they have a chance at those RTC's, but don't fool yourself. And they are not making the players better. It's a $450 (rtc/tryout fee) multi-practice tryout.

Actually there are a handful of Oregon girls who are still playing and who have been invited to the National camp and I'm pretty sure we have a few who have made the team. No, it doesn't happen often, but if you look at the national team, you will be surprised at where some of the players are from. Not all come from California or Texas. A 16 year old who is on the U20 team is actually from Colorado. There are team members from Ohio, New England, Geiorgia, Illinois, .... Top players can come from anywhere. And while the outlying areas of Oregon don't produce a lot of the top players in the state, they do produce some of them. I've seen very good players from Eugene, Medford, Bend.

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There is always going to be some baby who's kid doesn't make it or the coaches don't agree with the whining parent that they are top in the state so they ll whine and cry.

Have some respect for yourself.

Agree. Sure politics do play a role, but if one girl gets selected over another girl, usually the two girls are pretty close in playing ability. The one may have been selected due to politics, but it's not as if she's a crummy player who got selected over a very good player.

What ODP players and parents don't always understand is that a number of top players don't try out at all. Some don't do it until they are 14 or older. Personally, I believe there is more value to do it at the older ages. At the younger ages, you get dozens and dozens of kids out there and picking through them can be a bit daunting. That's why they do the RTC. RTC allows for an extended look before picking the state pool. It may be a money grab, but the RTC is much better way to select the state pool.

Hey, I've been a whiny parent some with ODP. My dd didn't make hold over a time or two and she was just as good as some of the players chosen. However, it's not as if she was better than those players. Those players that made it were good. Personally, and in my opinion, they just weren't better than my dd. But that's my opinion. And it only matters to me. So viola, no hold over those years. Oh well.

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Some times the kid who is the star with the club coach (for unknown reasons,or played up a year so "has to be amazing", has a parent who's friends with the coach, has a sibling that played for the coach, ect ) isn't as "all that" as they and the club coach think they are. A neutral party is seeing it for what it is. And different styles of coaches like different styles of players.

The other thing is these are 11/12 year olds and they can have bad days, there are a lot of kids out there and unless your an outstanding stand out player or horrible stand out as bad player your probably not going to get noticed.

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Of course it is. You should know that going in. Did anyone NOT from a Timbers club even make it? Save your money and time and go do some private training.

Please, let's not take the haters too seriously here. I have to think 95% of these ODP/RTC haters are OPL people just taking free shots.

My son plays for a non TA, non OPL club and tried out for a Portland RTC, despite being a late Nov birthday and playing against older kids, he made the team. While he isn't a super star, he is a very solid player, so I felt he got a fair look. And NO, they just didn't take everyone, there were about 40 kids per session (so 45 plus maybe tried out if some could only make 1 or 2 sessions?) and they took 27-28 kids. Level of play was high and it was very competitive, so for $40, he got 5-6 hours of good scrimmaging on nice fields, worth it to me even if it ended there. There was really no coaching, just observing, so the jury is still out there, but I agree with the previous poster, that if he gets $200 worth of cool Timbers gear plus 18-20 practices and some competitive games, the $400 fee is worth it to me. New friends, different coaching, possibility of moving on will all be gravy.

This is my 1st experience with rtc, so I'm going in with an open mind and trying to ignore the haters and jaded parents. Seems to me that it's a higher level than sending your kid to UP, Thorns/Timbers, whatever camp, where you don't know the level of the other kids and coaching. Those camps offer way less bang for your buck but I don't see them getting bashed here.

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yep

Of course it is. You should know that going in. Did anyone NOT from a Timbers club even make it? Save your money and time and go do some private training.

Most of the kids last couple years have been OPL on the girls side.

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I watched tryouts also in my region. I was surprised how little attention was given from the coaches. I didn't watch last year. My dd is a solid player, not the star, but decent. She thought it was fine. Didn't feel like the coaching was the best. Not because of the coaches skill, but just the number of girls:coach. She enjoyed making new friends and the gear. We were on the fence about whether to participate again. She made it this year. Looking at the list, I was shocked. Some strong players were cut. And some really, really unskilled girls were rostered. I'm not sure why this happened. I almost wonder if it's a clerical error it's so crazy. I guess we'll see what happens at the first training.

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I watched tryouts also in my region. I was surprised how little attention was given from the coaches. I didn't watch last year. My dd is a solid player, not the star, but decent. She thought it was fine. Didn't feel like the coaching was the best. Not because of the coaches skill, but just the number of girls:coach. She enjoyed making new friends and the gear. We were on the fence about whether to participate again. She made it this year. Looking at the list, I was shocked. Some strong players were cut. And some really, really unskilled girls were rostered. I'm not sure why this happened. I almost wonder if it's a clerical error it's so crazy. I guess we'll see what happens at the first training.

I think it's worthwhile to participate, but the selection process makes no logical sense. I think they might actually draw names out of a hat.

I've seen top talent cut and very low skilled girls make the team.

I watched try outs the last three years and the coaches don't even pay attention much less take notes.