Originally posted by Unregistered
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Completely agree with this post. Hard to imagine one evaluator having this much influence over the others.It's not logical. Most of the players from this particualr club are very good players. -
For sure the evaluators don't talk to each other...Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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I don't see how any evaluator saw anything. They were camped under their tents most of the scrimmages sitting by the heater. Several of the games my daughter played in no one was walking on the field. How can you possibly see a number from that far away?
The entire process was a joke. If they were evaluating on what they claimed to be evaluating on then those certain players never would of been left off the list. In the first part of the session on Saturday you could see who had the knowledge and skill. They purely went for size this year.
As for the poster that said no one is dead and it's no big deal try telling that to the girls who deserved it. I hope they come back stronger than ever.Comment
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Hang in There
For what it is worth I recall thinking similiar things during our first year of ODP. We have been doing it for four years now and it has gotten better each year. The first year my daughter participated the pool was huge, there were players that did not make the initial cut who were invited back and ultimately ended up in the pool, and there were a disproportionate number of kiddos from one team. Even so, this all seemed to iron out over the next few years. I hope that these girls will not be discouraged and will continue to tryout and to bring their best game. For us, the experience has been great overall.Comment
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I agree that it gets better and even if every single one 0f the best players does not do it, there are enough in the state to compensate. However, the unfortunate part is I do think this was a critical year for OYSA and the ODP program. I believe to get kids back, this year in particular, they really needed to hit a home run. Sadly it was even worse than years prior.Originally posted by ESUFC Fan View Post
Your daughter also was fortunate in that when she started out there were better qualified coaches. I think this helps get the players back even if they didnt make it the first go around.Comment
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Agreed. I have spoken with several of the girls parents who did not make it and several parents whose kids did make it and it doesn't look good for ODP next year. This selection process has really left a bad taste in many peoples mouthes. I doubt the '98 try out will be very big next year and I hope it doesn't affect the '99's.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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First year trying out in a program; Child doesn't make it; parents think the system was fixed/rigged against him/her; leaves a "bad taste"; give up. Such great life lessons I am reading on this forum. Sorry, but 11/12 year old who don't make it they're first year are somehow going to survive this inexact science. I've seen it and lived through it many times and it is not the kids who hang on to the disappointment. Generally, the only ones who can't get over it are the parents. So what now? The 98 parents run around telling the 99 parents how their little Johnie/Janie got screwed? Ridiculous. All I can tell you is that it can be a great experience for the kids as they get older.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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First year trying out in a program; Child doesn't make it; parents think the system was fixed/rigged against him/her; leaves a "bad taste"; give up. Such great life lessons I am reading on this forum. Sorry, but 11/12 year olds who don't make it their first year are somehow going to survive this inexact science. I've seen it and lived through it many times and it is not the kids who hang on to the disappointment. Generally, the only ones who can't get over it are the parents. So what now? The 98 parents run around telling the 99 parents how their little Johnie/Janie got screwed? Ridiculous. All I can tell you is that it can be a great experience for the kids as they get older.Comment
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First of all, calm down. No need to get your panties in a bunch. Were you at this try out? No. This was not a typical ODP try out selection process. Most people never had much faith in the ODP system to begin with and with all the talk about prices going up, coaches being cut, etc this just angered people further. '96 seems to be the last good group. Since they have regionalized it it has gone down hill. ODP will be a thing of the past sooner than you think for the younger age groups if things continue the way they're going. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a better program out there next year.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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My daughter went from playing up last year and making the A team to not even making it this year. It was not our first year trying out. Granted the '97 try out was weaker but all in all I'd have to say the '97 roster is stronger than the '98 one this year. The players selected over my daughter are just astonishing.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Perception is reality!
Even if every girl from WSM deserved a spot on the ODP, it looks bad because their coach is their evaluator. ODP staff did not think this process through.Comment
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Agreed and the WSM coach should of removed himself from the selection process when his name was brought up. It is an obvious conflict of interest for him to be evaluating his own team and his own daughter. The WSM club never should of allowed it either. It looks bad for the club.Comment
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Know it all's like yourself just get under my skin....But that is what you are here to do right? Give parenting advice and bug the crap out of people. YOU have missed the entire point of everything. It is not really about the kids that didn't make it.. I am sure they are over it by now and the parents I talked to said because the pool is so weak they are happy to not be spending the money. (These particular kids were over it in about a minute.) What it is about is the lack of integrity within the program and this is for both kids who MADE the pool and those that did not. There is also a life lesson in learning when something is not worth your investment anymore. In the end, the pool maybe OK when the entire state is mixed together. (We are in the pool so I hope so.)Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
They may even be able to compete against one of the better OPL teams. We will seeComment
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Is this a serious quote? Did your daughter make the A ODP team last year as a play up and not make the pool at all this year?Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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