98 Girls ODP Tryouts

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I do not know the exact break down but off the top of my head (the ones I know for sure) I know 7 U13's.

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I do not know the exact break down but off the top of my head (the ones I know for sure) I know 7 U13's.

There are about 11 or so U14's from the premier teams, not sure how many U14's from outside premier league. They represent Timbers Red, Losc Defeaters, FC pdx, ESUFC Tottenham, Clackamas strykers, and SSC Trinidad.

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No, one Mercury girl was invited back, and showed up on the pool list, after she showed at try-outs, got injured quickly, and then never showed again. She was then dropped from the pool. She is one who could be considered an impact player for ODP and for club.

The second Mercury girl never made the pool, and was to show up for her try-out once healthy, by attending a training, and she never showed. But she never was in the pool as she never even tried out. I don't recall seeing her in the games where we have played THUSC, but maybe she was injured.

There is one Defeeter player there, their top players didn't show. Trinidad, same thing, one player, top players didn't show. ESU has a couple (2) of really good players there, 2 of their top team players (one is a keeper, really strong keeper too). Strykers? I saw one, same one from the pool last year. FC Portland has one top player there, none of their other top players showed but when I asked the FC girl's mom, I was told most of their starters and top players are 96's, and someone also mentioned that most of the Trinidad top players are also 96's. Timbers has one, why she doesn't do the Wa. program is beyond me, it's far stronger, but perhaps that's why, Oregon's ODP at this age group is easy to get into compared to Wa. In Wa., I would think only a few (2-3 max) of the Oregon ODP 97's would make it in.

We moved to Wa.'s program after seeing what the Oregon 97's dealt with last year. My daughter almost tried out in Oregon, we have really good friends in the area and my niece is in the pool, but after seeing and hearing about the drama of the 97's and the political crap they dealt with last year? Wa.'s program is far less political and I can say that from experience. It's tougher to get into, yes, but isn't that what ODP should be?

Really, there are a small handful of the top players, meaning starting impact players, from the U14 or even U13 age group in the Oregon 97 pool. You have maybe 2 U13's, one from FC Portland and one from THUSC. And then you have a top player in the Timbers U14 girl, the FC Portland U14 girl, 2 of the ESU U14 girls, and maybe the Strykers player. And I am not being mean, simply calling it as I see it, and as the club teams have valued these players. One can say others are better, or equal, but in comparing who I know as impact players from the league, there are 2 U13's out there that qualify, and 4 U14 players that do. Shoot me if I am missing one, but I sure as heck ain't missing many.

Truth be told, Oregon's ODP 97 group has better support players who tried out this year, and so far no political BS, so they do indeed look better in the trainings I watched. And granted, it's only been 3 trainings that we have made, but still. They don't look like they could, if the top players were all there, but they have a handful and hopefully this year is better for them.

My daughter still wishes she had tried out for Oregon's ODP. She is a 97 in the Wa. pool, but has yet to be selected for anything above trainings. She knows she could do better with Oregon's program, but for us, having her play against the better players is far better and will push her more. She is still at that "better to stand out and be a top player" age and mentality, but long-term, Wa.'s program is far better in our opinion and in talking to the coaches we know in Oregon and Wa.

Come watch a Wa. training versus an Oregon one. The quality of the entire pool is so different. You don't see the huge difference from player number 1 to player number 20. There is more consistency and overall skill and talent. I fully believe Oregon could compete better if they drew the top players in the 97 group, but also fully believe they would still lose to Wa. every time. Just an overall better, larger pool to choose from I guess.

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No, one Mercury girl was invited back, and showed up on the pool list, after she showed at try-outs, got injured quickly, and then never showed again. She was then dropped from the pool. She is one who could be considered an impact player for ODP and for club.

The second Mercury girl never made the pool, and was to show up for her try-out once healthy, by attending a training, and she never showed. But she never was in the pool as she never even tried out. I don't recall seeing her in the games where we have played THUSC, but maybe she was injured.

There is one Defeeter player there, their top players didn't show. Trinidad, same thing, one player, top players didn't show. ESU has a couple (2) of really good players there, 2 of their top team players (one is a keeper, really strong keeper too). Strykers? I saw one, same one from the pool last year. FC Portland has one top player there, none of their other top players showed but when I asked the FC girl's mom, I was told most of their starters and top players are 96's, and someone also mentioned that most of the Trinidad top players are also 96's. Timbers has one, why she doesn't do the Wa. program is beyond me, it's far stronger, but perhaps that's why, Oregon's ODP at this age group is easy to get into compared to Wa. In Wa., I would think only a few (2-3 max) of the Oregon ODP 97's would make it in.

We moved to Wa.'s program after seeing what the Oregon 97's dealt with last year. My daughter almost tried out in Oregon, we have really good friends in the area and my niece is in the pool, but after seeing and hearing about the drama of the 97's and the political crap they dealt with last year? Wa.'s program is far less political and I can say that from experience. It's tougher to get into, yes, but isn't that what ODP should be?

Really, there are a small handful of the top players, meaning starting impact players, from the U14 or even U13 age group in the Oregon 97 pool. You have maybe 2 U13's, one from FC Portland and one from THUSC. And then you have a top player in the Timbers U14 girl, the FC Portland U14 girl, 2 of the ESU U14 girls, and maybe the Strykers player. And I am not being mean, simply calling it as I see it, and as the club teams have valued these players. One can say others are better, or equal, but in comparing who I know as impact players from the league, there are 2 U13's out there that qualify, and 4 U14 players that do. Shoot me if I am missing one, but I sure as heck ain't missing many.

Truth be told, Oregon's ODP 97 group has better support players who tried out this year, and so far no political BS, so they do indeed look better in the trainings I watched. And granted, it's only been 3 trainings that we have made, but still. They don't look like they could, if the top players were all there, but they have a handful and hopefully this year is better for them.

My daughter still wishes she had tried out for Oregon's ODP. She is a 97 in the Wa. pool, but has yet to be selected for anything above trainings. She knows she could do better with Oregon's program, but for us, having her play against the better players is far better and will push her more. She is still at that "better to stand out and be a top player" age and mentality, but long-term, Wa.'s program is far better in our opinion and in talking to the coaches we know in Oregon and Wa.

Come watch a Wa. training versus an Oregon one. The quality of the entire pool is so different. You don't see the huge difference from player number 1 to player number 20. There is more consistency and overall skill and talent. I fully believe Oregon could compete better if they drew the top players in the 97 group, but also fully believe they would still lose to Wa. every time. Just an overall better, larger pool to choose from I guess.

I totally agree with your assessment of the girls at ODP this year. This is really insightful.

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No, one Mercury girl was invited back, and showed up on the pool list, after she showed at try-outs, got injured quickly, and then never showed again. She was then dropped from the pool. She is one who could be considered an impact player for ODP and for club.

The second Mercury girl never made the pool, and was to show up for her try-out once healthy, by attending a training, and she never showed. But she never was in the pool as she never even tried out. I don't recall seeing her in the games where we have played THUSC, but maybe she was injured.

There is one Defeeter player there, their top players didn't show. Trinidad, same thing, one player, top players didn't show. ESU has a couple (2) of really good players there, 2 of their top team players (one is a keeper, really strong keeper too). Strykers? I saw one, same one from the pool last year. FC Portland has one top player there, none of their other top players showed but when I asked the FC girl's mom, I was told most of their starters and top players are 96's, and someone also mentioned that most of the Trinidad top players are also 96's. Timbers has one, why she doesn't do the Wa. program is beyond me, it's far stronger, but perhaps that's why, Oregon's ODP at this age group is easy to get into compared to Wa. In Wa., I would think only a few (2-3 max) of the Oregon ODP 97's would make it in.

We moved to Wa.'s program after seeing what the Oregon 97's dealt with last year. My daughter almost tried out in Oregon, we have really good friends in the area and my niece is in the pool, but after seeing and hearing about the drama of the 97's and the political crap they dealt with last year? Wa.'s program is far less political and I can say that from experience. It's tougher to get into, yes, but isn't that what ODP should be?

Really, there are a small handful of the top players, meaning starting impact players, from the U14 or even U13 age group in the Oregon 97 pool. You have maybe 2 U13's, one from FC Portland and one from THUSC. And then you have a top player in the Timbers U14 girl, the FC Portland U14 girl, 2 of the ESU U14 girls, and maybe the Strykers player. And I am not being mean, simply calling it as I see it, and as the club teams have valued these players. One can say others are better, or equal, but in comparing who I know as impact players from the league, there are 2 U13's out there that qualify, and 4 U14 players that do. Shoot me if I am missing one, but I sure as heck ain't missing many.

Truth be told, Oregon's ODP 97 group has better support players who tried out this year, and so far no political BS, so they do indeed look better in the trainings I watched. And granted, it's only been 3 trainings that we have made, but still. They don't look like they could, if the top players were all there, but they have a handful and hopefully this year is better for them.

My daughter still wishes she had tried out for Oregon's ODP. She is a 97 in the Wa. pool, but has yet to be selected for anything above trainings. She knows she could do better with Oregon's program, but for us, having her play against the better players is far better and will push her more. She is still at that "better to stand out and be a top player" age and mentality, but long-term, Wa.'s program is far better in our opinion and in talking to the coaches we know in Oregon and Wa.

Come watch a Wa. training versus an Oregon one. The quality of the entire pool is so different. You don't see the huge difference from player number 1 to player number 20. There is more consistency and overall skill and talent. I fully believe Oregon could compete better if they drew the top players in the 97 group, but also fully believe they would still lose to Wa. every time. Just an overall better, larger pool to choose from I guess.

Well said and agree with you 100%.

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No, one Mercury girl was invited back, and showed up on the pool list, after she showed at try-outs, got injured quickly, and then never showed again. She was then dropped from the pool. She is one who could be considered an impact player for ODP and for club.

The second Mercury girl never made the pool, and was to show up for her try-out once healthy, by attending a training, and she never showed. But she never was in the pool as she never even tried out. I don't recall seeing her in the games where we have played THUSC, but maybe she was injured.

There is one Defeeter player there, their top players didn't show. Trinidad, same thing, one player, top players didn't show. ESU has a couple (2) of really good players there, 2 of their top team players (one is a keeper, really strong keeper too). Strykers? I saw one, same one from the pool last year. FC Portland has one top player there, none of their other top players showed but when I asked the FC girl's mom, I was told most of their starters and top players are 96's, and someone also mentioned that most of the Trinidad top players are also 96's. Timbers has one, why she doesn't do the Wa. program is beyond me, it's far stronger, but perhaps that's why, Oregon's ODP at this age group is easy to get into compared to Wa. In Wa., I would think only a few (2-3 max) of the Oregon ODP 97's would make it in.

We moved to Wa.'s program after seeing what the Oregon 97's dealt with last year. My daughter almost tried out in Oregon, we have really good friends in the area and my niece is in the pool, but after seeing and hearing about the drama of the 97's and the political crap they dealt with last year? Wa.'s program is far less political and I can say that from experience. It's tougher to get into, yes, but isn't that what ODP should be?

Really, there are a small handful of the top players, meaning starting impact players, from the U14 or even U13 age group in the Oregon 97 pool. You have maybe 2 U13's, one from FC Portland and one from THUSC. And then you have a top player in the Timbers U14 girl, the FC Portland U14 girl, 2 of the ESU U14 girls, and maybe the Strykers player. And I am not being mean, simply calling it as I see it, and as the club teams have valued these players. One can say others are better, or equal, but in comparing who I know as impact players from the league, there are 2 U13's out there that qualify, and 4 U14 players that do. Shoot me if I am missing one, but I sure as heck ain't missing many.

Truth be told, Oregon's ODP 97 group has better support players who tried out this year, and so far no political BS, so they do indeed look better in the trainings I watched. And granted, it's only been 3 trainings that we have made, but still. They don't look like they could, if the top players were all there, but they have a handful and hopefully this year is better for them.

My daughter still wishes she had tried out for Oregon's ODP. She is a 97 in the Wa. pool, but has yet to be selected for anything above trainings. She knows she could do better with Oregon's program, but for us, having her play against the better players is far better and will push her more. She is still at that "better to stand out and be a top player" age and mentality, but long-term, Wa.'s program is far better in our opinion and in talking to the coaches we know in Oregon and Wa.

Come watch a Wa. training versus an Oregon one. The quality of the entire pool is so different. You don't see the huge difference from player number 1 to player number 20. There is more consistency and overall skill and talent. I fully believe Oregon could compete better if they drew the top players in the 97 group, but also fully believe they would still lose to Wa. every time. Just an overall better, larger pool to choose from I guess.

Good post and I agree with most of your assessments. Wa is a lot stronger than Or at the 97 age group. After watching both teams compete last year (along with several other states), Or has a long ways to go to catch up to Wa in this age group. The u14 timbers girl you speak of is a good player but I couldn't see her being strong enough to make the Wa team. No disrespect meant and I could be wrong. The 5 girls from sw Wa in the Wa 97 pool are all very strong and deserving players. 3 made it to Phoenix (2 u14s and 1 u13) and the other 2 (1 u14 and 1 u13) were strong contenders. I'm fairly certain these 5 girls would have an excellent chance of making the Or team, but my guess is that they have their sights set higher. As for the 98 group, results remain to be seen. I'm hearing mixed reviews regarding the strength of the Wa pool, and the Or pool just seems to be a mess with all the politics and drama surrounding it. I'm hearing that several of the Or 97s and 98s have already decided to call it quits this year. What I find interesting is that you hear of a lot of Wa players going to the Or ODP tryouts, but with all of the junk going on with the latest 2 age groups, why aren't more of the top Or players going across the river to tryout in Wa? Everyone knows that its much harder to even make the Wa pool and that it requires more travel, but for the very few Or 97s and 98s that might have a shot at being on a team that can actually compete with California, why wouldn't they do so? My daughter is a 99 player from Wa and has played both Wa and Or teams. Both states have great players at this age group. She did not tryout for Wa or Or 98 teams this year, but if I had to pick one, right now I'd definitely pick Wa. I agree with the above poster that there doesn't seem to be nearly the politics in Wa. After asking around, Wa did not have any coaches evaluating the same age group they work with. And parents from Wa tend to stay away from the ODP evaluators and coaches so there is no schmoozing up. Just seems like a more professional process overall. Guess I'll find out for myself next year.

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No, one Mercury girl was invited back, and showed up on the pool list, after she showed at try-outs, got injured quickly, and then never showed again. She was then dropped from the pool. She is one who could be considered an impact player for ODP and for club.

The second Mercury girl never made the pool, and was to show up for her try-out once healthy, by attending a training, and she never showed. But she never was in the pool as she never even tried out. I don't recall seeing her in the games where we have played THUSC, but maybe she was injured.

There is one Defeeter player there, their top players didn't show. Trinidad, same thing, one player, top players didn't show. ESU has a couple (2) of really good players there, 2 of their top team players (one is a keeper, really strong keeper too). Strykers? I saw one, same one from the pool last year. FC Portland has one top player there, none of their other top players showed but when I asked the FC girl's mom, I was told most of their starters and top players are 96's, and someone also mentioned that most of the Trinidad top players are also 96's. Timbers has one, why she doesn't do the Wa. program is beyond me, it's far stronger, but perhaps that's why, Oregon's ODP at this age group is easy to get into compared to Wa. In Wa., I would think only a few (2-3 max) of the Oregon ODP 97's would make it in.

We moved to Wa.'s program after seeing what the Oregon 97's dealt with last year. My daughter almost tried out in Oregon, we have really good friends in the area and my niece is in the pool, but after seeing and hearing about the drama of the 97's and the political crap they dealt with last year? Wa.'s program is far less political and I can say that from experience. It's tougher to get into, yes, but isn't that what ODP should be?

Really, there are a small handful of the top players, meaning starting impact players, from the U14 or even U13 age group in the Oregon 97 pool. You have maybe 2 U13's, one from FC Portland and one from THUSC. And then you have a top player in the Timbers U14 girl, the FC Portland U14 girl, 2 of the ESU U14 girls, and maybe the Strykers player. And I am not being mean, simply calling it as I see it, and as the club teams have valued these players. One can say others are better, or equal, but in comparing who I know as impact players from the league, there are 2 U13's out there that qualify, and 4 U14 players that do. Shoot me if I am missing one, but I sure as heck ain't missing many.

Truth be told, Oregon's ODP 97 group has better support players who tried out this year, and so far no political BS, so they do indeed look better in the trainings I watched. And granted, it's only been 3 trainings that we have made, but still. They don't look like they could, if the top players were all there, but they have a handful and hopefully this year is better for them.

My daughter still wishes she had tried out for Oregon's ODP. She is a 97 in the Wa. pool, but has yet to be selected for anything above trainings. She knows she could do better with Oregon's program, but for us, having her play against the better players is far better and will push her more. She is still at that "better to stand out and be a top player" age and mentality, but long-term, Wa.'s program is far better in our opinion and in talking to the coaches we know in Oregon and Wa.

Come watch a Wa. training versus an Oregon one. The quality of the entire pool is so different. You don't see the huge difference from player number 1 to player number 20. There is more consistency and overall skill and talent. I fully believe Oregon could compete better if they drew the top players in the 97 group, but also fully believe they would still lose to Wa. every time. Just an overall better, larger pool to choose from I guess.

So you bring your player to watch the training but don't want to be involved because you believe the talent pool isn't as good as Washington, where your daughter is in the pool but hasn't been invited to any events?? Once a state team is announced, those Oregon girls will have the invaluable opportunity to play in tournaments against some of the best odp teams in Region 4. Friendship cup, Utah Mountain friendlies, and a week at regional camp playing daily against those states and have the opportunity to get coaching from national level coaches is what this program is about. There is so much more to this program than just winning and losing games, that is why it is called a "development" program. If your player never gets the chance to participate and play against the best in the west then they are missing out. My daughter has had these opportunities with the 97' group and has grown so much, she has competed against the best in the west and is now working harder than ever to get to their level!

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Not sure why you would question why we would be there to watch but opt to not participate. I think I explained pretty well WHY we don't participate in Oregon's ODP program. If you're really interested enough about WHY we were even there, or will continue to be there at times, not that it's really any of your business, but my niece's folks are going through a divorce and the only way she can continue to participate in much of the soccer she does it because my spouse and I are there for her. You okay with that?

As for your daughter, that's great that Oregon ODP is helping her. Sounds like she is at the perfect level to be challenged by ODP in Oregon and feel like it's helping her. For me, for us, my daughter would not be challenged as much by the Oregon 97 group, with only a few being at good top skill level. Seeing them versus the Wa. 97 pool is day and night. I would wager money that only one or two of the field players, and one of the goal keepers, in the Portland 97 group could compete well skill wise with the Wa. 97's. For us, because it is about development, we want her playing against the girls who will challenge her. For your daughter, you feel she is at the level where the Oregon girls do challenge her. Sounds like a great fit for your daughter. Because we know players get more out of training and practices, and being challenged at the level they need, Wa's program will be our preference for now.

Add in the politics I continue to see and hear about with Oregon coaches and ODP, and that's a strong deal breaker for us. Looking at the 97 selections from beginning to end last year was srong proof of how that can go so wrong. Really, the top few 97's were even considering moving to Wa's ODP program last I heard, and even had a Wa. (Vancouver area) coach willing and wanting to recommend them for the program. They obviously opted not to, as both are back in the ODP pool for Oregon this year, but both girls, U14 players, I understand did consider moving for the same reasons I state above.

And yes, playing in the Friendship Cup will be good for the Oregon 97's to see the talent from other top areas, though note that So Cal doesn't even come to this in this age group. Also note the Utah Friendlies are just that, friendlies. The Oregon girls don't get to play any top teams there, no top club teams, no top state or ODP teams, just friendlies, with the best ONE being against Utah's ODP 97 girls. That's it. To us, paying $700 for that is simply assinine. Regional Camp will be good for the small handful that can truly compete there, and will be good for all others to see the levels from elsewhere. So yea, sure, 2 out of 3 ain't bad, but nonetheless, Wa. attends both the Friendship Cup and Regional Camp, and gets to skip the silly $700 friendlies, again, another point for Wa. Sorry.

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97s beat the 98s 6 to 1 tonight in scrimmage

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97s beat the 98s 6 to 1 tonight in scrimmage

Boys or girls?
What region?

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Boys or girls?
What region?

Sorry, girls, Portland region

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97s beat the 98s 6 to 1 tonight in scrimmage

97's have had more time to gel together as a team. The 98's had 36 girls that needed to play. 97's had about 16. Not really the same.

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Not to mention when you factor that some could be 1-1-97 birth date and others 12-31-98, thats 2 years of age difference and in some cases 3 years of playing/training experience.

Many girls are just starting to grow and some might be done. Muscle, Strength, Height and Weight can make a big difference at this level of the game.

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Not to mention when you factor that some could be 1-1-97 birth date and others 12-31-98, thats 2 years of age difference and in some cases 3 years of playing/training experience.

Many girls are just starting to grow and some might be done. Muscle, Strength, Height and Weight can make a big difference at this level of the game.

Actually some from the '98 pool are '99 birth years, some as late as 9/99 I believe. Plus it was the first time the '98 have even done a full size scrimmage and they played with a formation that they have never played before.

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Not to mention when you factor that some could be 1-1-97 birth date and others 12-31-98, thats 2 years of age difference and in some cases 3 years of playing/training experience.

Many girls are just starting to grow and some might be done. Muscle, Strength, Height and Weight can make a big difference at this level of the game.

Hmm...could this give some credence as to why they (ODP) were looking for some of the talented but larger girls? I'm not sure that is what they did, but some parents were complaining that it seemed they were passing up talented younger and smaller girls in favor of the talented larger girls. This might just be one of the reasons?