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Point was they weren't trained by bigger clubs or expensive academies. They were coached by a dad who's team would go on to have more future stars then any club in NJ...Even PDA Blue. 2x NWSL players and 1 in Superliga Femenina in Spain, 8 went on to play D1 some at some top schools all from 1 team. Sure some would play 2-3 years in HS with bigger clubs as well but those clubs didn't develop them into super stars. These women were already part of a township team that was winning on a national level. They were already part of YNTs.

Point was don't discount a daddy team or township team. Training and coach have more to do with youth then name or patch.

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Terrific story and so glad to see the recognition it deserves. You don’t know how many times the club and the coach got put down just because they weren’t part of the establishment like PDA, SJEB etc. That’s why is so refreshing to see another dad coached club like Real NJ eat these academies lunch anyplace anytime.

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It’s a great story and this was a situation when the “stars aligned “ with a coach the players believed in and the loyalty and commitment of the players/parents. It rarely happens. It’s not a question of looking down or discounting a situation but rather this was not the norm and it worked for this particular group because of this particular special Coach. Cryer had the same situation with a group of players/parents and has made his living off that one group ever since.

Stop it. Cryers players were good Club players. Who from that group has gone on to great things in College on the soccer field?

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I'm guessing you are a PDA parent, or worse, a PDA coach. It's OK - no need to be defensive. PDA does fill a need. It's just very ugly soccer for a club that attracts so much talent (and then wastes it by playing mindless big and fast soccer).

I won't get into the debate here with you. It's been widely (and wildly) debated in other threads. Go look at comments regarding the PDA-Barcelona game and you might understand, but I don't expect you to get it.

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” - Upton Sinclair

Not the OP, but are you suggesting PDA would win more playing another way? I think the payers themselves may not be as capable of doing that as you think they are. By the time most kids get to PDA, the technical foundation is laid. PDA coaches recruit players they believe will help them win games Nad they win plenty.

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I'm guessing you are a PDA parent, or worse, a PDA coach. It's OK - no need to be defensive. PDA does fill a need. It's just very ugly soccer for a club that attracts so much talent (and then wastes it by playing mindless big and fast soccer).

I won't get into the debate here with you. It's been widely (and wildly) debated in other threads. Go look at comments regarding the PDA-Barcelona game and you might understand, but I don't expect you to get it.

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” - Upton Sinclair

Nope, not a PDA parent. Am a parent at another ECNL club, so D’s team has faced PDA many times over the years (tho not this year as we are in New England conference now). PDA-Barca was a great example of a team in mid-season vs a team coming off a HS season. You can believe what you want, but there is a massive difference between “kick and run” vs “playing direct”. Many national teams and overseas professional teams play direct. Germany won a World Cup playing direct. Not sure how much Upton Sinclair knows about soccer, but I’m guessing not much.

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Nope, not a PDA parent. Am a parent at another ECNL club, so D’s team has faced PDA many times over the years (tho not this year as we are in New England conference now). PDA-Barca was a great example of a team in mid-season vs a team coming off a HS season. You can believe what you want, but there is a massive difference between “kick and run” vs “playing direct”. Many national teams and overseas professional teams play direct. Germany won a World Cup playing direct. Not sure how much Upton Sinclair knows about soccer, but I’m guessing not much.

what we are are talking about is not the score of the game but the technical prowess of Barcelona. They played a game of" this is my ball and you cant have it". There was a stark contrast of technical ability in keeping the ball , creating angles and first touches to get out of pressure. Even if PDA managed to win that game by scoring off an error by a Barcelona defender, the two teams were light years apart in technical proficiency.

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what we are are talking about is not the score of the game but the technical prowess of Barcelona. They played a game of" this is my ball and you cant have it". There was a stark contrast of technical ability in keeping the ball , creating angles and first touches to get out of pressure. Even if PDA managed to win that game by scoring off an error by a Barcelona defender, the two teams were light years apart in technical proficiency.

Which reinforces the fact that there are many ways to win a game. Soccer is played many ways. One is not better than the other. You may like one style more, but that just personal preference. Rodman was the 2nd pick in the draft skipping college soccer. Drafted ahead of several technical players with College resumes.

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what we are are talking about is not the score of the game but the technical prowess of Barcelona. They played a game of" this is my ball and you cant have it". There was a stark contrast of technical ability in keeping the ball , creating angles and first touches to get out of pressure. Even if PDA managed to win that game by scoring off an error by a Barcelona defender, the two teams were light years apart in technical proficiency.

Barcelona as a team played a specific type of soccer. Players received the ball, then passed the ball and then move and repeat. Very pretty soccer for sure. But that type of soccer does not require players to have strong ball handling skills other than first touch and passing. You will not see those Barca players beating players 1v1 very often, or receiving the ball under pressure, or anything that requires particularly strong individual skill. It is a great way to play soccer, but it doesn't do much to develop the individual player's skills.

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Barcelona as a team played a specific type of soccer. Players received the ball, then passed the ball and then move and repeat. Very pretty soccer for sure. But that type of soccer does not require players to have strong ball handling skills other than first touch and passing. You will not see those Barca players beating players 1v1 very often, or receiving the ball under pressure, or anything that requires particularly strong individual skill. It is a great way to play soccer, but it doesn't do much to develop the individual player's skills.

Nonsense: individual skill and one vs. one skills were created By barca. Think Messi, think Marta, and all the players that have a ball at that feet, every hour of every day.

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Terrific story and so glad to see the recognition it deserves. You don’t know how many times the club and the coach got put down just because they weren’t part of the establishment like PDA, SJEB etc. That’s why is so refreshing to see another dad coached club like Real NJ eat these academies lunch anyplace anytime.

Agreed, stories like the above is what’s missing in youth soccer today. The money hungry academies have truly ruined a beautiful game. If you’re going to have academies they should be free and reserved for the best of the best. Instead they have become businesses for consumers chasing a pipe dream. 1-2% play college soccer and even less pro. Amazing how truly disconnected from reality some folks are.

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Nonsense: individual skill and one vs. one skills were created By barca. Think Messi, think Marta, and all the players that have a ball at that feet, every hour of every day.

Barcelona created nothing. Know your football before you talk. The La Mesa/ Barca style was created by a Dutchman, Johan Cryuff. He created the system and style of play with motion and movements. It wasn’t until Barca had Xavi and Inestra in the midfield did the system work with the great Messi. You can have the system but without the great players it can be beat by other systems. What has Barca won without that great midfield.

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Barcelona created nothing. Know your football before you talk. The La Mesa/ Barca style was created by a Dutchman, Johan Cryuff. He created the system and style of play with motion and movements. It wasn’t until Barca had Xavi and Inestra in the midfield did the system work with the great Messi. You can have the system but without the great players it can be beat by other systems. What has Barca won without that great midfield.

I guess then PDA is further behind then we thought.

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Barcelona created nothing. Know your football before you talk. The La Mesa/ Barca style was created by a Dutchman, Johan Cryuff. He created the system and style of play with motion and movements. It wasn’t until Barca had Xavi and Inestra in the midfield did the system work with the great Messi. You can have the system but without the great players it can be beat by other systems. What has Barca won without that great midfield.

Now this is getting out of hand, talking about one of the greatest clubs in the world on a GAL thread....don’t get much better than this.

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Which reinforces the fact that there are many ways to win a game. Soccer is played many ways. One is not better than the other. You may like one style more, but that just personal preference. Rodman was the 2nd pick in the draft skipping college soccer. Drafted ahead of several technical players with College resumes.

Rodman was on U20 NT and is a very athletic person ....you can teach a high level athlete skills but you can not teach a highly skilled player to more athletic or faster.

Thats why the NFL has combines...they can make a football player from a top natural athlete...

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Rodman was on U20 NT and is a very athletic person ....you can teach a high level athlete skills but you can not teach a highly skilled player to more athletic or faster.

Thats why the NFL has combines...they can make a football player from a top natural athlete...

Then it should be easy to make NFL running backs professional soccer players.....No?

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Rodman was on U20 NT and is a very athletic person ....you can teach a high level athlete skills but you can not teach a highly skilled player to more athletic or faster.

Thats why the NFL has combines...they can make a football player from a top natural athlete...

And yet most people are starting to see that combines make no sense as talent identification, even at the NFL draft level.