Rutgers $200 mil shortfall

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Agree this pda arrangement doesn’t seem to pass the smell test.

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PDA must be reading these forums because they just posted a consolidated list of all their players and all the colleges they are going to, big and small. Good for those girls.

Clearly some kids going to Rutgers but how is that any different than local kids going their to play football, baseball, basketball...etc

I don’t get all the fuss. Rutgers is a good school with great education programs. But if you’re sour about one school and their relationship with one club, then it’s your own fault for not being smarter about your school selection. Take a look at Monmouths roster, plenty of PDA kids that didn’t go to Rutgers.

Where can you find that list posted by PDA?

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Oh wow

Where can you find that list posted by PDA?

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Lol you think? They are the primary posters on here. Lol.

PDA must be reading these forums because they just posted a consolidated list of all their players and all the colleges they are going to, big and small. Good for those girls.

Clearly some kids going to Rutgers but how is that any different than local kids going their to play football, baseball, basketball...etc

I don’t get all the fuss. Rutgers is a good school with great education programs. But if you’re sour about one school and their relationship with one club, then it’s your own fault for not being smarter about your school selection. Take a look at Monmouths roster, plenty of PDA kids that didn’t go to Rutgers.

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Can you imagine... one club that is so powerful, and omnipresent that is takes up 90% of the discussions on these crazy soccer boards? I mean really if you can’t beat em (which clearly you can’t) JOIN EM!

PDA’s record of D1, NT and professional placements is unparalleled- add to that they basically control ECNL and the northeast, stop the hate and just (if your kid can make a team) sign up! It’s really that simple. If PDA is a viable option for you can’t see why you wouldn’t play for them! AND DESPITE WHAT YOU ALL WILL SAY - my kid does not play for PDA - but if it worked geographically and she could make the team she sure would! No better option if your kid wants D1! It’s the truth - sad for some but true!

Funny and false. PDA record over the last 5 YEARS is very paralleled. Only a fool thinks the experience at a club is the same for all kids and that top middle and bottom of roster at a PDA is better than other options.

Find whats best for you and ignore this nonsense

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Yes but not with a psa coach who can't juggle toilet paper

It was a fun team bonding experience. That kind of unity is apparently somethings that missing from the RU soccer program. I honestly think DM could do some good there. Drain the swamp, as they say.

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It was a fun team bonding experience. That kind of unity is apparently somethings that missing from the RU soccer program. I honestly think DM could do some good there. Drain the swamp, as they say.

DM is the swamp, youth soccer is all about money. He cannot coach an 09 team so please stop with this ridiculousness

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DM is the swamp, youth soccer is all about money. He cannot coach an 09 team so please stop with this ridiculousness

At least he should get over to PDA first before RU....you guys need to stop with this nonsense.

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What is your “real” issue regarding Rutgers and PDA? There is nothing inappropriate because of “free will” of potential student/athletes. Major universities all over the country have assistant coaches who also play prominent roles at some of the best clubs. The need/want those jobs to supplement there incomes. If they happen to be a “feeder” for a college what is your issue? Players/students have the free will/choice to make there own decisions about where they want to be a student/athlete in college. What is inappropriate about that? Go look at the list of PDA players who are going to play at other P5 Conference schools. Plenty of players chose to go elsewhere. In every sport coaches always try to keep there “homegrown” talent in State. Nothing wrong or inappropriate about that. Good for Rutgers for keeping homegrown kids in State.

It is a grey line. A club coaching staff should not have more than 1 coach from a school and the club should not be able to use the college facilities if a coach is employed the club. PDA's members are essentially subsidizing Rutgers soccer, FC Bucks are now subsidizing Villanova. There are no checks in place that would prevent Rutgers from cutting coaching salaries and the club picking up the difference.

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It is a grey line. A club coaching staff should not have more than 1 coach from a school and the club should not be able to use the college facilities if a coach is employed the club. PDA's members are essentially subsidizing Rutgers soccer, FC Bucks are now subsidizing Villanova. There are no checks in place that would prevent Rutgers from cutting coaching salaries and the club picking up the difference.

So you decide what is a “grey line”? Why does it matter about how many coaches from a college want to work at any given club. It’s a win/win for both. Coaches get to supplement there income and clubs get experienced coaches to teach fundamentals to the players. You have a problem with that? How about every coach at a club should have a minimum of a “B License” I like that to be a rule. I do not understand what a club paying a coach for services has to do with being a Rutgers coach. Have you seen the list of 50 plus PDA 2020 players committed for next reason. Where does PDA have. Monopoly? There are plenty of PDA players playing in other NJ Colleges? What checks Nd balances re needed when you like at the diverse schools all these young ladies will be attending. Does PDA not allow college coaches attend training sessions, scrimmages, round robin tournaments? No to all there fields are open to all colleges anytime! I have seen coaches from long over attend all these things and how about the PDA Showcases. The are attended by every NJ College in the area. You just do not make sense.

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So you decide what is a “grey line”? Why does it matter about how many coaches from a college want to work at any given club. It’s a win/win for both. Coaches get to supplement there income and clubs get experienced coaches to teach fundamentals to the players. You have a problem with that? How about every coach at a club should have a minimum of a “B License” I like that to be a rule. I do not understand what a club paying a coach for services has to do with being a Rutgers coach. Have you seen the list of 50 plus PDA 2020 players committed for next reason. Where does PDA have. Monopoly? There are plenty of PDA players playing in other NJ Colleges? What checks Nd balances re needed when you like at the diverse schools all these young ladies will be attending. Does PDA not allow college coaches attend training sessions, scrimmages, round robin tournaments? No to all there fields are open to all colleges anytime! I have seen coaches from long over attend all these things and how about the PDA Showcases. The are attended by every NJ College in the area. You just do not make sense.

Sorry no one from PDA going to another Big Ten school other than Rutgers and no one from FC Bucks going to another Big East school other than Nova. Does that seem right to you??? Reeks of bias and control to benefit those colleges only....Truth.

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So you decide what is a “grey line”? Why does it matter about how many coaches from a college want to work at any given club. It’s a win/win for both. Coaches get to supplement there income and clubs get experienced coaches to teach fundamentals to the players. You have a problem with that? How about every coach at a club should have a minimum of a “B License” I like that to be a rule. I do not understand what a club paying a coach for services has to do with being a Rutgers coach. Have you seen the list of 50 plus PDA 2020 players committed for next reason. Where does PDA have. Monopoly? There are plenty of PDA players playing in other NJ Colleges? What checks Nd balances re needed when you like at the diverse schools all these young ladies will be attending. Does PDA not allow college coaches attend training sessions, scrimmages, round robin tournaments? No to all there fields are open to all colleges anytime! I have seen coaches from long over attend all these things and how about the PDA Showcases. The are attended by every NJ College in the area. You just do not make sense.

If you think it's ok for youth programs to subsidize universities I don't know what else to tell you.

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If you think it's ok for youth programs to subsidize universities I don't know what else to tell you.

Happens all the time, and not just in soccer

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Thank god my daughter has zero interest in pda or Rutgers. I don’t have to get on that bandwagon.

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So you decide what is a “grey line”? Why does it matter about how many coaches from a college want to work at any given club. It’s a win/win for both. Coaches get to supplement there income and clubs get experienced coaches to teach fundamentals to the players. You have a problem with that? How about every coach at a club should have a minimum of a “B License” I like that to be a rule. I do not understand what a club paying a coach for services has to do with being a Rutgers coach. Have you seen the list of 50 plus PDA 2020 players committed for next reason. Where does PDA have. Monopoly? There are plenty of PDA players playing in other NJ Colleges? What checks Nd balances re needed when you like at the diverse schools all these young ladies will be attending. Does PDA not allow college coaches attend training sessions, scrimmages, round robin tournaments? No to all there fields are open to all colleges anytime! I have seen coaches from long over attend all these things and how about the PDA Showcases. The are attended by every NJ College in the area. You just do not make sense.

I’m not the OP. Here are my notes. You can take them as is, or with a grain of salt.

How is PDA a monopoly:
- they hold back other clubs from ECNL. They have 3 ECNL teams in NJ and blocked other clubs
- the fact that 51 girls go to play college ball AND 1/2 of the kids didn’t join PDA before U14
- 51 kids from pda north again represents probably more than 50% in NJ
- PDA access time ECNL allows them to charge higher prices than other clubs (even though they own the fields as a grant) - except for MF, but way more than WC or PA clubs
- PDA holds 2 practices a week and charges extra for a 3rd practice
- PDA charges for winter practices
- PDA is holding off on returning fees for 19/20 season and not offering any credit
This basically meets the definition of monopolistic behavior. Lots of ways to verify these details.

How is PDA/Rutgers relationship hurting players:
- PDA players subsidize Rutgers staff through use of fields and charges for joint practices
- PDA players are informally pressured to commit to Rutgers before junior year
- there are sticks and carrots for those who play the Rutgers interest game via invites to special events, including ‘extra practices’, ‘us soccer scouting’ events (whatever they are)
- committed PDA players have more starts and preferred position on a team
These may be harder to verify unless you know the players who were being recruited by Rutgers or just cross validate with current Rutgers picks.