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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    It's hypocritical to try to shame one, and defend the other. But, the media has you sold.
    As the parent of girls, I am talking about how I feel about Donald Trump representing this country as president. I do not feel proud when I think of his involvement with beauty pageants. I am entitled to this view. I would also feel it if I had sons but it particularly acute with daughters.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      As the parent of girls, I am talking about how I feel about Donald Trump representing this country as president. I do not feel proud when I think of his involvement with beauty pageants. I am entitled to this view. I would also feel it if I had sons but it particularly acute with daughters.
      How do you feel about the Obama's gushing endorsement of Beyoncé being a role model for their daughters ? Any problem with the way she dresses , performs and with the lyrics to her songs ? Just curious, as I know Obama is not running.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        As the parent of girls, I am talking about how I feel about Donald Trump representing this country as president. I do not feel proud when I think of his involvement with beauty pageants. I am entitled to this view. I would also feel it if I had sons but it particularly acute with daughters.
        Do you instead feel 'proud' to think about voting for a women who didn't stand up for herself when and her husband who has a history of disrespecting her? I want my daughter to stand on her own two feet, not feel she has to be treated like dirt to remain with a spouse for appearances, only.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          How do you feel about the Obama's gushing endorsement of Beyoncé being a role model for their daughters ? Any problem with the way she dresses , performs and with the lyrics to her songs ? Just curious, as I know Obama is not running.
          My pride in having my girl's see Barack Obama elected as their president and Michelle Obama as the first lady, has little to do with what he thinks about Beyonce. I would not be impressed if he had spent a lot of time or energy involved with her pageant career.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            My pride in having my girl's see Barack Obama elected as their president and Michelle Obama as the first lady, has little to do with what he thinks about Beyonce. I would not be impressed if he had spent a lot of time or energy involved with her pageant career.
            So, you have an issue because one candidate has involvement with something that, I presume is your issue, objectifies women? Even if those same women choose so?

            But, you do not have an issue with a president who actively support someone that objectifies women? Even if that same woman chose to?

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              My pride in having my girl's see Barack Obama elected as their president and Michelle Obama as the first lady, has little to do with what he thinks about Beyonce. I would not be impressed if he had spent a lot of time or energy involved with her pageant career.
              I guess you're not impressed then....

              http://beautypageants.indiatimes.com...w/52067853.cms

              http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/03/21/...esident-obama/

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Do you instead feel 'proud' to think about voting for a women who didn't stand up for herself when and her husband who has a history of disrespecting her? I want my daughter to stand on her own two feet, not feel she has to be treated like dirt to remain with a spouse for appearances, only.
                That is not on the list of the things I admire about her. I don't feel that she places any importance on or has profited from how women look strutting around and smiling in heels and bikinis and stage.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  My pride in having my girl's see Barack Obama elected as their president and Michelle Obama as the first lady, has little to do with what he thinks about Beyonce. I would not be impressed if he had spent a lot of time or energy involved with her pageant career.
                  You Ok with Chris Matthews getting another tingly leg while ogling Melania?

                  http://nypost.com/2016/05/06/hot-mic...melania-trump/

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                    Trumps business ventures in the pageant industry are a strike against him in my book. Nothing illegal about it but not something I value in any way, shape or for. Taken together with other statements he has made he quite effectively repels myself and many other women.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Trumps business ventures in the pageant industry are a strike against him in my book. Nothing illegal about it but not something I value in any way, shape or for. Taken together with other statements he has made he quite effectively repels myself and many other women.
                      So do you vote for a woman that has had a long list of women accuse her husband of some pretty bad things? Vote for a woman whose husband paid a settlement to one of the accusers ? Vote for a woman who stayed with a husband that had sex in the Oval Office with a young female ?

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        So do you vote for a woman that has had a long list of women accuse her husband of some pretty bad things? Vote for a woman whose husband paid a settlement to one of the accusers ? Vote for a woman who stayed with a husband that had sex in the Oval Office with a young female ?
                        If it were a Republican Speaker it would have been with a young boy scout....

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          If it were a Republican Speaker it would have been with a young boy scout....
                          Bill Clinton was a Boy Scout.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            If it were a Republican Speaker it would have been with a young boy scout....
                            But it wasn't.

                            Stay on point.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              So do you vote for a woman that has had a long list of women accuse her husband of some pretty bad things? Vote for a woman whose husband paid a settlement to one of the accusers ? Vote for a woman who stayed with a husband that had sex in the Oval Office with a young female ?
                              Look, he's repellent to many. Can't be helped.

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                                Walked out of my office. As I passed through the lobby, I caught CNN on the TV, Our Fearless Leader speaking. At the bottom, was this quote - Obama: "The Presidency isn't a realty show"

                                My initial reaction was "Wasn't he just on Bear Gryllis?" Then I remembered, that show's fake, so that's probably how he justifies it....

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