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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Looks like little p(ecker) is all wound up again.....
    Is that all you can say when you are powned? ignore facts.

    i do perk up a bit when it becomes easy to show you that you simply don't get it.

    Why don't you attempt to wrestle with the facts rather than DEFLECT?

    tee hee
    bawl hahaha

    teach us your "new" economics where cost to produce being less than market price can be ignored.

    I also get wound up at the prospect of learning something "new" that I could have never imagined. Like being profitable when my production costs excess market valuation.

    here si a chance for you to show me how Smaht YOU are

    tee hee
    bwa haha

    don't disappoint me now

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      1) Oil prices have little to do with supply and demand. Case in point: oil at $115 bbl despite millions of bbls sitting in tankers offshore waiting for onshore storage capacity to open up.
      2) Frackers largely lease from US BLM. They are obligated under lease to produce or they lose their lose and investment. You cant simultaneously complain about solar subsidies and support subsidies for money losing oil wells.
      3) Destabilizing S.A. is crazy talk. Do you really want to deal with a S.A. in chaos? Seriously? How did Egypt, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria work out fer ya?
      4) In general while tough on the energy sector most economists agree that low oil prices benefit virtually everyone else by freeing up discretionary dollars for both manufacturers, consumers and the supply chain in between to be spent on domestic goods (whether produced here or merely sold here).
      5) Commercial borrowing is up and nicely coincides with a drop in oil prices. This kind of borrowing (as opposed to residential) creates more jobs and means that businesses are preparing to expand and/or build inventories.
      6) Solar energy and wind in the long term (i.e. in 20 years) are cheaper than fossil fuels - the cost of these projects are amortized over their lifespan yet the operating costs decline to a greater extent and more rapidly than fossil fuels which expend energy to create energy. Solar scares "certain" people because it is a resource that cannot be controlled. That makes a hard core capitalist wet his pants. You see, there are times when what is bad for capitalism is good for everyone else. It just takes a progressive to understand the difference.

      should i respond to that or the web sites you cribbed it from?

      Naturally, since you felt pressed and needed to copy and paste wholesale, it comes as no surprise that those items aren't responsive to what i said.

      this is where all your unforced errors happen. be careful

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        BTW, isn't item #6 of what you posted contrary to the whole position you took earlier?

        please explain. hope you didn't crib that because you didn't read all the way to end

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          excerpt from this 5/12/2015 article...

          http://www.investopedia.com/articles...tional-oil.asp

          There is no doubt that shale oil costs more than conventional oil to extract. Beyond that, there is a lot of variability in the cost of extracting shale oil, meaning that every well has a different level of cost-per-barrel of production from as low as $40 a barrel to over $90 a barrel. With these costs paid upfront for a comparatively short production life compared to a conventional well, it makes sense for the shale oil industry to suspend new wells when world oil prices dip and ramp up when the prices are strong. That means there are a lot of shale oil deposits sitting idle when crude oil prices are hovering around $50 a barrel.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            should i respond to that or the web sites you cribbed it from?

            Naturally, since you felt pressed and needed to copy and paste wholesale, it comes as no surprise that those items aren't responsive to what i said.

            this is where all your unforced errors happen. be careful
            Wow are you dead wrong. Not cribbed from anywhere. I purchase energy of all kinds for my company. Annual consumption is in excess of $20M......

            It is my job to understand the markets. I have been doing it for 20+ years and I am really good at it. My expertise saves our company millions each fiscal year.

            Just pointing out the realities of the energy markets rather than your nutter fantasies about things that don't matter.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              BTW, isn't item #6 of what you posted contrary to the whole position you took earlier?

              please explain. hope you didn't crib that because you didn't read all the way to end
              #6 is pro sustainable. No change in position. FYI - do you realize that with Pilgrim going offline not to mention Yankee (already offline) that New England needs to come up with new sources. Hydro and NG present infrastructure complexities that are costly and logistically complex (I am sure that you have heard about the leak in Cali.... not only an environmental problem for the residents but transmission capacity is compromised. Plenty of NG available - the problem is that you have to pay for transmission and heightened competition for limited transmission resources is a major (and rising...) component of the cost of NG. If you are looking at the spot market price for LA or NY you are only seeing a piece of the picture.

              You see, the difference between you and me is that your energy philosophy is based upon emotional and political preferences. I could care less about those factors as they don't impact my bottom line. I engage the markets based on two primary factors: 1) cost, and 2) stability of supply. #2 is important. I can't run my business without energy no matter what the cost is. Whether it fits with D or R or liberal or conservative credo is irrelevant.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                excerpt from this 5/12/2015 article...

                http://www.investopedia.com/articles...tional-oil.asp

                There is no doubt that shale oil costs more than conventional oil to extract. Beyond that, there is a lot of variability in the cost of extracting shale oil, meaning that every well has a different level of cost-per-barrel of production from as low as $40 a barrel to over $90 a barrel. With these costs paid upfront for a comparatively short production life compared to a conventional well, it makes sense for the shale oil industry to suspend new wells when world oil prices dip and ramp up when the prices are strong. That means there are a lot of shale oil deposits sitting idle when crude oil prices are hovering around $50 a barrel.
                But you are missing a piece of the equation. Companies leasing from the BLM CAN'T leave them idle...... they use it or lose it....

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                  http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/20/politi...ons/index.html

                  "When Obama touched down in Riyadh shortly after 1 p.m. local time, there were no kisses with the kingdom's ruler as President George W. Bush once exchanged. The Saudi government dispatched the governor of Riyadh rather than a senior-level royal to shake Obama's hand, a departure from the scene at the airport earlier in the day when King Salman was shown on state television greeting the leaders of other Gulf nations on the tarmac."

                  Racists.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    hahahahahahahaha must be bad management at that company

                    http://fortune.com/2015/11/09/solar-...rst-half-2016/

                    oh...the slow down predicted for second half of year was because of tax credits expiring but since the article was written, credits have been renewed by Congress for 5 more years.

                    Jeez I guess if Republicans in Congress think this is a good program. Is that why you tea nuts want to throw the Republicans out too? Just that anti-progress?

                    No one addressing the fact that i am making $$ on my install. Covers my needs for electric and pays for itself with clean energy credits AND selling CLEAN power back to grid.

                    Also, too, my power is more efficient because there are no transmission line losses between my roof and my A/C. But I really copuldnt explain that too you sciecen wise unless you knew something ex lax so i just....you just don't have the necessary background I guess to understand the issues.
                    Bwahahaha! I can't wait for the day you have to put on a new roof. And it won't be long.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Bwahahaha! I can't wait for the day you have to put on a new roof. And it won't be long.
                      Plenty of things can go wrong over the lifespan needed just to break even. Storms, vandalism, accidents, who knows. Do those Solar Panels come with a crystal ball ?

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        But you are missing a piece of the equation. Companies leasing from the BLM CAN'T leave them idle...... they use it or lose it....
                        And some one else will pick up the lease when it is again available.

                        They're in a speculative venture, they know it.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          The jobs on the lower end of the pay scale. That's what those supply chains offer. And if we do the manufacturing here, those jobs WILL EXIST , along with higher paying manufacturing jobs, skilled jobs.

                          What you don't understand is that the loss of manufacturing jobs alone has idled millions of workers and taken away the jobs that existed for decades. There is now a void in the employment spectrum that did not exist previously. But I know Progressives have the answer ! $ 15.00 minimum wage. Like a dictation will instantly lift the qualifications of minimum wage to a new level. A level based on handwringing.

                          So instead of bringing back an opportunity to create skilled employment, and motivate people to get training, Progressives will just demand that lower qualified workers be paid more. That's how they think they can fix the problem of the income gap. Boost up the programs if need be, more handouts to help equalize their lack of long term vision and planning.

                          You got that part wrong. They know it won't fix the problem. Believe it or not there are actually a few liberals willing to admit that. But the solution has never been to fix the problem. It has always been to buy Democrats votes.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            How plunging oil prices have created a volatile new force in the global economy
                            US hopes for energy independence through fracking are vulnerable to supply decisions made in Saudi Arabia and now Iran

                            http://www.theguardian.com/business/...di-arabia-opec


                            duh. did you nutters inflate another bubble?
                            We had them on the ropes, and Obama let them off. Nearly to the standing 8 count. The Sauds can't afford the low prices. And they are still pumping because they fear giving up market share . Obama had to let Iran put that oil out on the market. This has his fingerprints all over it. He has hurt America once again.

                            North Korea rattling the sabre. Russia buzzing our ships with their planes, ISIS building in Libya and elsewhere in the ME. More troops and Apache helicopters to Iraq because he left a vacuum. And here at home, United Health Care is ready to pull the plug on Obama care.

                            And we are watching the Supremes to see if 4 million illegals will be able to get Social Security and Medicare , thanks to Obama. Here in America , we give drivers licenses to illegals , in Saudi Arabia they don't even give them to women. Why should we keep them in business?

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                              Whether you are Democrat or Republican, conservative or liberal, Saudi Arabia is soon to blow up. Not sure how long it's going to take, but I'm talking very near future.

                              Signed, the Independent.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                We had them on the ropes, and Obama let them off. Nearly to the standing 8 count. The Sauds can't afford the low prices. And they are still pumping because they fear giving up market share . Obama had to let Iran put that oil out on the market. This has his fingerprints all over it. He has hurt America once again.

                                North Korea rattling the sabre. Russia buzzing our ships with their planes, ISIS building in Libya and elsewhere in the ME. More troops and Apache helicopters to Iraq because he left a vacuum. And here at home, United Health Care is ready to pull the plug on Obama care.

                                And we are watching the Supremes to see if 4 million illegals will be able to get Social Security and Medicare , thanks to Obama. Here in America , we give drivers licenses to illegals , in Saudi Arabia they don't even give them to women. Why should we keep them in business?
                                Your post reminds me of this.
                                http://cdn.cnsnews.com/styles/conten...3/woodspee.jpg

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