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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Wrong. If you are going to assert something as a fact it is the author's responsibility to cite sources. Your unwillingness probably means they are from Fox or Glen Beck. I assume that your lack of understanding of this standard means that you didn't attend school beyond HS.

    Are you numb to the fact that you are a lapdog lackey to the 1%. They are performing magic tricks on you getting you to have a pavlovian reaction to all the things that made americans paranoid during the 1950's. Totalitarian Communism and Democratic Socialism are two entirely different economic animals.
    This is exactly spot on. Argued with the wingers for years that in the real world (not their fever dreams) anyone making claims, assertions, whatever had better be ready to back them up. Of course,msince they generally despise and distrust things like learning and knowledge it isn't surprising that they stamp their feet like a five year old in a tantrum bender.

    When I declared long ago that the civil war was coming for republicans and that they couldn't go on as they were, I also noted they wouldn't go easily. That they would rage in their "death rattle" and be indifferent to the damage to a country they no longer seem to see themselves as part of.

    The "death rattle" is seen in the trump candidacy. They are reveling in the reactions he is getting and run around acting like they are going to win this time (cue 2008 and 2012 and fact that if R's don't keep ose coalition together AND add votes they are doomed. Look at your news this morning. See they didn't want to attack him because they need the haters I. Their coalition. I think some are going to work to hold onto senate and Supreme Court and dump White House. In end I think it might be good night for the Republican Party. Perhaps a "white nationalist" party composed of a 20% minority, mainly centered in red states somim looking forward to living out my days much like previous .....only BETTER

    Take that cons!

    Tee hee
    Bwah hah

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Progressives want to open the cell doors, because of the " mass incarceration " myth , so expect more people like this , maybe in your own neighborhood.
      Mass incarceration myth? Like the two republican judges in PA who filled the juvenile prison to get kickbacks from the private prison company THEY handed their county's business to?

      This is a myth? Private prisons are the republican model.

      This is like trump de ting the legal stuff last night. Children. Be calm folks. We are winning!

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Progressives want to open the cell doors, because of the " mass incarceration " myth , so expect more people like this , maybe in your own neighborhood.
        Wrong. We want people who received 20 year jail sentences for possession of 18 joints to be freed. The police and courts have disproportionately let whites off for drug possession. How much time did Bill Belichiks kid serve for possession? Now if it was a black kid from Roxbury? Different story. We will never solve the race problem in this country until the deniers take their blinders off and admit won't most Americans understand.

        - Cujo

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Wrong. We want people who received 20 year jail sentences for possession of 18 joints to be freed. The police and courts have disproportionately let whites off for drug possession. How much time did Bill Belichiks kid serve for possession? Now if it was a black kid from Roxbury? Different story. We will never solve the race problem in this country until the deniers take their blinders off and admit won't most Americans understand.

          - Cujo
          Stop with the diversion. The number of people serving 20 years for a handful of joints in their pocket is such a small minority of the prison population it is statistically insignificant.

          It is basically decriminalized in many states and cities. Legal in Washington DC . But what did that have to do with the savage beating of a former Marine in a McDonalds' on Feb 12th. Bum rushed him walking out the door. From behind. How much you want two that were arrested, a 17 year old male and female came from a broken family ?

          Have you ever worked in Criminal Justice or Law Enforcement ? If not, take your lunch break, and go down to your nearest Court. Look at the Docket for the day. Look at the names, record them, then to a search for criminal records. It is a revolving door of the same criminals, that tax money was spent to get of the streets , only to get back out there and do it all over again.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Mass incarceration myth? Like the two republican judges in PA who filled the juvenile prison to get kickbacks from the private prison company THEY handed their county's business to?

            This is a myth? Private prisons are the republican model.

            This is like trump de ting the legal stuff last night. Children. Be calm folks. We are winning!
            A myth. Criminals have not just three strikes, but many times a dozen before they serve any significant time. And the incarcerations are from the CRIMINAL BEHAVIOUR of the suspects. If you don't behave as a criminal, you dramatically lessen the odds of being incarcerated.

            Again, have you worked in Criminal Justice or Law Enforcement?

            So grab two exceptions from the thousands of Judges around the country, and that makes your case?

            Private prisons are what is needed, and more of them, to get the criminals away from innocent citizens.

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              Dear cons,

              Please do not offer anymore anecdata to make your points. It's a well known logical fallacy that you can learn about if you audit certain freshman college courses that explain this in detail. I don't hVe time to help you.

              Much of your anecdata veers dramatically I into confabulation so if you insist on continuing to offer anecdata, please offer arguments at same time as to why we shouldn't just ignore anything coming out of your mouths that relies on personal credibility.


              Reading level for bolded checks in at grade 11.7 so hoping you cons can follow. 10-12 presumes a high school diploma. 8 is suggested for general public so I'm giving you benefit of doubt, especially you trump supporters who I see are the uneducAted segments of white population. But we in in MA so I suspect you can do a LITTLE better than red state rednecks

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                A myth. Criminals have not just three strikes, but many times a dozen before they serve any significant time. And the incarcerations are from the CRIMINAL BEHAVIOUR of the suspects. If you don't behave as a criminal, you dramatically lessen the odds of being incarcerated.

                Again, have you worked in Criminal Justice or Law Enforcement?

                So grab two exceptions from the thousands of Judges around the country, and that makes your case?

                Private prisons are what is needed, and more of them, to get the criminals away from innocent citizens.
                private prisons? so some atherosclerotic white guys can have a welfare gig where you are GUARANTEED to make a profit?

                Amazing how much of the com gzme is being dismantled.

                But, but....what about free markets? Why should entrenched government power decide what business interests are to succeed? haven't you told us government is inept? how could they possibly avoid being swindled when the fat cats who own private prisons come to feed at trough of our tax dollars?

                Nope. State needs to run own prisons = accountability

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

                  Have you ever worked in Criminal Justice or Law Enforcement ?
                  Have YOU? If you cannot PROVE it I guess we will have to go on with this in first principals I.e. On even footing so let's go on.

                  If not, take your lunch break, and go down to your nearest Court. Look at the Docket for the day. Look at the names, record them, then to a search for criminal records. It is a revolving door of the same criminals, that tax money was spent to get of the streets , only to get back out there and do it all over again.
                  Here's another Factoid con. Law school son with plenty of exposure to system based on pre-law and law experiences. A relative who worked in very same courthouse with criminal judges mentioned before. I've also mentioned a state police lt friend.....time to dismount from that high horse of yours. I already k ow your perspective is only from trenches so let's just say other people in system I know don't share your opinions. But none of that matters ......first principals.

                  So here a first principal argument.....


                  Revolving door you say? Current system based on punitive action clearly a failure then. But sounds like you recommend more of same (MORE private prisons you say)

                  Kinda dumb.

                  Lemme guess you went to the law enforcement program at Westfield ....at best.....at least I HOPE you trained somewhere at LEAST that good.

                  Leave the gliabal considerations to people who understand things from a more comprehensive perspective.

                  Now get back in the trenches, do your job, and listen to your civilian overseers like a good public servant. Don't k ow when the oublic's empliyees thought they were in charge.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Have YOU? If you cannot PROVE it I guess we will have to go on with this in first principals I.e. On even footing so let's go on.



                    Here's another Factoid con. Law school son with plenty of exposure to system based on pre-law and law experiences. A relative who worked in very same courthouse with criminal judges mentioned before. I've also mentioned a state police lt friend.....time to dismount from that high horse of yours. I already k ow your perspective is only from trenches so let's just say other people in system I know don't share your opinions. But none of that matters ......first principals.

                    So here a first principal argument.....


                    Revolving door you say? Current system based on punitive action clearly a failure then. But sounds like you recommend more of same (MORE private prisons you say)

                    Kinda dumb.

                    Lemme guess you went to the law enforcement program at Westfield ....at best.....at least I HOPE you trained somewhere at LEAST that good.

                    Leave the gliabal considerations to people who understand things from a more comprehensive perspective.

                    Now get back in the trenches, do your job, and listen to your civilian overseers like a good public servant. Don't k ow when the oublic's empliyees thought they were in charge.
                    You are absolutely clueless.
                    Next time you need to call the Police, call a Hippie. Remember that ? You'll change your tune very quickly once you or your one of your loved ones become a victim.

                    Lawyers ? Seriously ?

                    Again, go down to the COURTHOUSE. Write the names and do research . Report back with your findings.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      private prisons? so some atherosclerotic white guys can have a welfare gig where you are GUARANTEED to make a profit?

                      Amazing how much of the com gzme is being dismantled.

                      But, but....what about free markets? Why should entrenched government power decide what business interests are to succeed? haven't you told us government is inept? how could they possibly avoid being swindled when the fat cats who own private prisons come to feed at trough of our tax dollars?

                      Nope. State needs to run own prisons = accountability
                      The Government decides what businesses are to succeed all the time, Maybe you have forgotten about the casino business for one. Can Supermarkets sell hard liquor?

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        You are absolutely clueless.
                        Next time you need to call the Police, call a Hippie. Remember that ? You'll change your tune very quickly once you or your one of your loved ones become a victim.

                        Lawyers ? Seriously ?

                        Again, go down to the COURTHOUSE. Write the names and do research . Report back with your findings.
                        My experience with crime:

                        1) Roommate beaten with bat in Allston - broken arm - assailant - white ex con
                        2) I was mugged in Allston - two broken teeth - assailants - 15-20 white teenagers
                        3) Nephew murdered in drive by shooting Va Beach - assailants - shooter white 17 year old, accomplices - white female 15 year old, white male 18 year old driver.
                        4) Next door neighbors windows broken and car vandalized Hampton NH - Assailant - car full of white teenagers
                        5) Neighborhood victimized by car fishing Hampton NH - 4 times during summer of 2011. Perps were white teenagers from Portsmouth NH
                        6) Car broken into and stereo Stolen - JP MA - perp was white teenager from JP

                        I lived in East Boston, Allston Brighton and Jamaica Plain for 30 years. NEVER had a problem with minorities. Cops, Courts and Media are biased to fear and disproportionately go after minorities.

                        For #s 1,2,4 and 6 - none of the criminals were even prosecuted. Some of the kids were "connected" i.e friends were kids of cops, local politicos....

                        Cujo

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          My experience with crime:

                          1) Roommate beaten with bat in Allston - broken arm - assailant - white ex con
                          2) I was mugged in Allston - two broken teeth - assailants - 15-20 white teenagers
                          3) Nephew murdered in drive by shooting Va Beach - assailants - shooter white 17 year old, accomplices - white female 15 year old, white male 18 year old driver.
                          4) Next door neighbors windows broken and car vandalized Hampton NH - Assailant - car full of white teenagers
                          5) Neighborhood victimized by car fishing Hampton NH - 4 times during summer of 2011. Perps were white teenagers from Portsmouth NH
                          6) Car broken into and stereo Stolen - JP MA - perp was white teenager from JP

                          I lived in East Boston, Allston Brighton and Jamaica Plain for 30 years. NEVER had a problem with minorities. Cops, Courts and Media are biased to fear and disproportionately go after minorities.

                          For #s 1,2,4 and 6 - none of the criminals were even prosecuted. Some of the kids were "connected" i.e friends were kids of cops, local politicos....

                          Cujo
                          I don't have the time, and this thread would go on for days if I listed mine. I have posted one or two to get your attention, but with know it all Progressives, their lack of experience never seems to make a difference. They just know it all.

                          Have fun on stage.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            I don't have the time, and this thread would go on for days if I listed mine. I have posted one or two to get your attention, but with know it all Progressives, their lack of experience never seems to make a difference. They just know it all.

                            Have fun on stage.
                            I doubt you spent 30 years living in an urban environment. I never even locked my doors when I lived in Boston. In Hampton I have to.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              You are absolutely clueless.
                              Next time you need to call the Police, call a Hippie. Remember that ? You'll change your tune very quickly once you or your one of your loved ones become a victim.

                              Lawyers ? Seriously ?

                              Again, go down to the COURTHOUSE. Write the names and do research . Report back with your findings.
                              This sounds a lot like no one knows anything but me.

                              I understand you guys can't see the big picture from the trenches. That's why our laws enshrine civilian leadership keeping military, police, etc on a leash. It's not binary, they can protect and serve without the rest of the crap. They just need to be kept at heel.

                              I have loved ones that have been victims of crime. My wife was robbed and assaulted while we were dating in another east coast city. I didn't go jihad against entire classes of people as a result.

                              The fact that you go from ANECDATA to seeing red to thinking you have something to say about sensible policy from a perspective of anger and rage shows we YOU and others like you need to be kept at end of a good strong leash if you are allowed to serve.

                              our intellects are what elevated us from just being animals so try to use yours before being swept away by whatever you have left of your hormones.....the ones related to,fear and anger

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                I don't have the time, and this thread would go on for days if I listed mine. I have posted one or two to get your attention, but with know it all Progressives, their lack of experience never seems to make a difference. They just know it all.

                                Have fun on stage.
                                Idk con. Seems like people have plenty of anecdotal data that contradicts you.

                                For myself I lived in three different urban environments.meast coast cities. Boston obviously. Yes you read that. Lived in CITY when moved here.

                                Lived in center city of two others.

                                Where do you get off telling people they don't have their own experiences. Your eyes are clearly clouded by rage

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