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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Will be easy to identify. Who doesn't know the area's top players at this juncture? How did this MLS team sink so quickly?
    Suspending Rennicks and Angking sums it up. Scales is a man-baby. In over his head from day 1.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Will be easy to identify. Who doesn't know the area's top players at this juncture? How did this MLS team sink so quickly?
      Not making any effort whatsoever while other clubs make investments in management, coaching and talent gets you here. More are taking notice

      https://www.thebentmusket.com/2017/8...eneral-manager

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        IA U18-Gone
        JF U16- Gone
        MB U14- Gone
        PL U13 -Gone
        ML U13- Gone
        A lot of other talent have left voluntarily as well. Will be interesting to see how the rosters pan out. Especially in U16 & U18. Younger level it's easier to replace players, but as they get older finding a quality replacement is not so easy.

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          And parents will continue to fall for their pitch because it's free. If the Bolts could ever figure out how to provide free DA they could grab all the talent. Until then they'll be second fiddle.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            And parents will continue to fall for their pitch because it's free. If the Bolts could ever figure out how to provide free DA they could grab all the talent. Until then they'll be second fiddle.
            It is not the cost or lack of cost. It's the pride of being able to say my son plays for the Revolution. Doesn't matter that they provide crap for training and development. Just one more subtle way that pride destroys.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              A lot of other talent have left voluntarily as well. Will be interesting to see how the rosters pan out. Especially in U16 & U18. Younger level it's easier to replace players, but as they get older finding a quality replacement is not so easy.

              Used to be that the Revs would make cuts, replacing them with higher quality players. Seemed a few of the very top Bolts & Seacoast players would be in this group every year. Now, not only are the Revs losing top players, but quality Bolts & Seacoast players are turning down offers and staying with their clubs. If this trend continues, it'll be interesting to see how the MLS DA will compete with the non-MLS DAs in the area. If the Revs continue to look like a dead end, some of those quality U12 Alliance players may opt out of the Revs and choose other DAs. If I were the Bolts organization, I'd push really hard to reduce costs for those U13&U14 age groups, as right now the main attraction to the Revs is that it's free (that kids are leaving or turning down offers to play for free really says something about the lack of development).

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Used to be that the Revs would make cuts, replacing them with higher quality players. Seemed a few of the very top Bolts & Seacoast players would be in this group every year. Now, not only are the Revs losing top players, but quality Bolts & Seacoast players are turning down offers and staying with their clubs. If this trend continues, it'll be interesting to see how the MLS DA will compete with the non-MLS DAs in the area. If the Revs continue to look like a dead end, some of those quality U12 Alliance players may opt out of the Revs and choose other DAs. If I were the Bolts organization, I'd push really hard to reduce costs for those U13&U14 age groups, as right now the main attraction to the Revs is that it's free (that kids are leaving or turning down offers to play for free really says something about the lack of development).
                Most people don't come to TS. Even if they do they don't have the time to wade through this whole nightmare of a thread. The Revs are considered the top program in the New England area. The Revs are free. At U13 people aren't exactly soccer gurus. The development piece escapes them and would most likely be overshadowed by the brag factor anyway. The Revs will continue to grab players and stunt their growth.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Most people don't come to TS. Even if they do they don't have the time to wade through this whole nightmare of a thread. The Revs are considered the top program in the New England area. The Revs are free. At U13 people aren't exactly soccer gurus. The development piece escapes them and would most likely be overshadowed by the brag factor anyway. The Revs will continue to grab players and stunt their growth.
                  Top program? lol that's funny. It's pretty well known they are anything but, except to the parents of younger players who don't know any better. But they eventually learn the truth.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Used to be that the Revs would make cuts, replacing them with higher quality players. Seemed a few of the very top Bolts & Seacoast players would be in this group every year. Now, not only are the Revs losing top players, but quality Bolts & Seacoast players are turning down offers and staying with their clubs. If this trend continues, it'll be interesting to see how the MLS DA will compete with the non-MLS DAs in the area. If the Revs continue to look like a dead end, some of those quality U12 Alliance players may opt out of the Revs and choose other DAs. If I were the Bolts organization, I'd push really hard to reduce costs for those U13&U14 age groups, as right now the main attraction to the Revs is that it's free (that kids are leaving or turning down offers to play for free really says something about the lack of development).
                    Keep in mind this is more area specific - MLS clubs in most other areas are making an effort and attract and keep top talent. What happens in MA isn't indicative of what may happen elsewhere. Boys ECNL, depending on how that pans out, might also weaken some DA clubs, especially the non MLS ones that are also pay to play.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Keep in mind this is more area specific - MLS clubs in most other areas are making an effort and attract and keep top talent. What happens in MA isn't indicative of what may happen elsewhere. Boys ECNL, depending on how that pans out, might also weaken some DA clubs, especially the non MLS ones that are also pay to play.
                      ECNL isn't going to hurt local DA. Locally it goes Revs DA --> Bolts DA --> ECNL. The ECNL is now where neurotic parents force their kids when they can't make DA. They pay through the nose in the hope that they can get to the promised land eventually. It's crazytown.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Top program? lol that's funny. It's pretty well known they are anything but, except to the parents of younger players who don't know any better. But they eventually learn the truth.
                        Reading for comprehension?

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          ECNL isn't going to hurt local DA. Locally it goes Revs DA --> Bolts DA --> ECNL. The ECNL is now where neurotic parents force their kids when they can't make DA. They pay through the nose in the hope that they can get to the promised land eventually. It's crazytown.
                          Not necessarily - some kids really want the option to play HS soccer and other sports. In the middle to upper income soccer demographic cost won't be a driver. Families will pick based on what avenue suits their player's goals and desires best. Same with the battle for girls ECNL and GDA. We won't have a clear cut winner - DA will win out by a thread, it will vary regionally, and both will be diluted.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Not necessarily - some kids really want the option to play HS soccer and other sports. In the middle to upper income soccer demographic cost won't be a driver. Families will pick based on what avenue suits their player's goals and desires best. Same with the battle for girls ECNL and GDA. We won't have a clear cut winner - DA will win out by a thread, it will vary regionally, and both will be diluted.
                            ECNL for boys is a totally unproven commodity. Until it demonstrates a strong recruiting draw it'll be for the players that can't make a DA team. High school soccer is becoming more and more irrelevant. In our town it's for mediocre soccer players from middling clubs and hockey players that wish to get in shape for their season.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              ECNL for boys is a totally unproven commodity. Until it demonstrates a strong recruiting draw it'll be for the players that can't make a DA team. High school soccer is becoming more and more irrelevant. In our town it's for mediocre soccer players from middling clubs and hockey players that wish to get in shape for their season.
                              Yes it's unproven. It might not work and will take some time for it to be sorted out. But keep in mind your HS is not the same as others and what drives one kid isn't the same as the next. The inability to play other sports is also a factor for some players. Top players, especially those with D1 ambitions, will likely stay put. But if you're a mid to lower level DA player whose best shot is D2 or D3 at most and you can get there without DA? Some may take that if they are dissatisfied with DA or HS sports matter to them (assuming ECNL delivers on a good level of college exposure). Most DA clubs are still pay to play, so why not pay for what makes you happier? That's why I agree with the poster you responded to - it will get diluted and the non MLS clubs will be the ones taking the brunt of it. MLS clubs will continue to draw the top talent

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Yes it's unproven. It might not work and will take some time for it to be sorted out. But keep in mind your HS is not the same as others and what drives one kid isn't the same as the next. The inability to play other sports is also a factor for some players. Top players, especially those with D1 ambitions, will likely stay put. But if you're a mid to lower level DA player whose best shot is D2 or D3 at most and you can get there without DA? Some may take that if they are dissatisfied with DA or HS sports matter to them (assuming ECNL delivers on a good level of college exposure). Most DA clubs are still pay to play, so why not pay for what makes you happier? That's why I agree with the poster you responded to - it will get diluted and the non MLS clubs will be the ones taking the brunt of it. MLS clubs will continue to draw the top talent
                                Ask your son what other sports the kids on his soccer team play. I would bet 30% to 40% play soccer as a 2nd or 3rd sport. High school soccer isn't for top soccer players.

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