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    #91
    Why is there all this jealosy and hatred for the pioneers. Obviously they must be doing something right to be in the top 3, whatever their schedule has been. Their kick and run game must be pretty good Ha Ha.

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      #92
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Why is there all this jealosy and hatred for the pioneers. Obviously they must be doing something right to be in the top 3, whatever their schedule has been. Their kick and run game must be pretty good Ha Ha.
      Have you ever seen them play? Their parents and coaches are obnoxious and they usually are very physical and rely on doing whatever it takes to win, even if that is ugly kick and run. I do agree though, Western is trying to claim the high ground but only got a 0-0 draw and is below them in the standings. Could change as the schedule evens out, but I doubt they are that much better than the Pioneers given what we have seen in MAPLE this Fall.

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        #93
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Those 2 players came from Soccer Domain, look what division they were in, Orange. I'm sure they looked like superstars! You cannot compare the Blue with the orange division, sorry! We will see where Western ends up once they play some weaker teams going forward.

        Everyone thinks BB's team will be last- I wouldn't discount them just yet either.

        Stars are definitely the best team in this division, but we shall see once they play the Pride who ends up on top.
        They may have played in Orange but the two girls you talk about hardly come out of the game for us, although one is a defender so not sure where the goals talk comes from!

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          #94
          Ok

          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Why is there all this jealosy and hatred for the pioneers. Obviously they must be doing something right to be in the top 3, whatever their schedule has been. Their kick and run game must be pretty good Ha Ha.
          Yes they have won games. Will they continue? I hope so for the kids! Is the coach a moron? No. He knows his limitations...big difference! I know the Mass club scene well. He is a good motivator and plays to win every game. He knows he can't teach technique. As is the case for 90% of this organization! He knows he can't teach his players to play at the level of the other organizations technically so he tries to teach them to play hard, very direct and tries to capitalize on mistakes with pressure. There is nothing wrong with that. Do I agree and do I coach like that? Absolutely not, but that doesn't make him wrong just a different style of play. If every team played exactly the same this game would be boring. Its simple, some train robots others train free thinkers. Very few in all of US can find a good balance. The ones that do are very successful. It also takes a lot of support from the parents and tons of patience.

          The U13 coach is the same way. Well, he teaches zero technique and relies on pure athleticism and hopes through conditioning his team will out last others. Both of their antics on the sidelines…they are less than desirable but if you don't like it find another club! If you are an opponent...its easy...you know what you are going to get so find a way to beat them.


          With that being said, if you want your child to become a better person or grow into a responsible adult. It is your responsibility to find the coach/organization that you feel will help you achieve this. If it’s the beautiful game your looking for? Stay away…ha ha ha! Lets face it not many are going to play at the highest levels so try to have fun while it last, build some friendships and maybe get some of life valuable lessons in!

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            #95
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Yes they have won games. Will they continue? I hope so for the kids! Is the coach a moron? No. He knows his limitations...big difference! I know the Mass club scene well. He is a good motivator and plays to win every game. He knows he can't teach technique. As is the case for 90% of this organization! He knows he can't teach his players to play at the level of the other organizations technically so he tries to teach them to play hard, very direct and tries to capitalize on mistakes with pressure. There is nothing wrong with that. Do I agree and do I coach like that? Absolutely not, but that doesn't make him wrong just a different style of play. If every team played exactly the same this game would be boring. Its simple, some train robots others train free thinkers. Very few in all of US can find a good balance. The ones that do are very successful. It also takes a lot of support from the parents and tons of patience.

            The U13 coach is the same way. Well, he teaches zero technique and relies on pure athleticism and hopes through conditioning his team will out last others. Both of their antics on the sidelines…they are less than desirable but if you don't like it find another club! If you are an opponent...its easy...you know what you are going to get so find a way to beat them.


            With that being said, if you want your child to become a better person or grow into a responsible adult. It is your responsibility to find the coach/organization that you feel will help you achieve this. If it’s the beautiful game your looking for? Stay away…ha ha ha! Lets face it not many are going to play at the highest levels so try to have fun while it last, build some friendships and maybe get some of life valuable lessons in!
            That is a great and very fair, honest and accurate recap of those coaches and the program as a whole +1.

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              #96
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              That is a great and very fair, honest and accurate recap of those coaches and the program as a whole +1.
              Honestly, this is why girls soccer in Mass as a whole is not very good. There are some programs in the state(Scorpions,Stars,Western,MPS) that try to teach soccer the correct way. They work on developing footwork, stategy, fundamentals ect.. Other clubs like the Pioneers teach terrible soccer. This is basically dumbing down our soccer. Those kids will just be kick and run players. This State needs dynamic players. don't get me wrong, there is also a need for players with speed and hustle. Just not entire teams built like that. So it's not OK for the "uncle Ed's of soccer" to teach them to be grinders. these kids are 11, develop them. It is probably a case that the coach has no coaching skill.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Honestly, this is why girls soccer in Mass as a whole is not very good. There are some programs in the state(Scorpions,Stars,Western,MPS) that try to teach soccer the correct way. They work on developing footwork, stategy, fundamentals ect.. Other clubs like the Pioneers teach terrible soccer. This is basically dumbing down our soccer. Those kids will just be kick and run players. This State needs dynamic players. don't get me wrong, there is also a need for players with speed and hustle. Just not entire teams built like that. So it's not OK for the "uncle Ed's of soccer" to teach them to be grinders. these kids are 11, develop them. It is probably a case that the coach has no coaching skill.
                Not sure why his teams play or our coached that way. He certainly knows the game, is it that he can't teach or that the pressure to win from his parents is too great to look to a larger goal,or is it just too much work and requires too much patience to teach another way? The U13 coach may be even worse playing one dimensional. You would think there would be some pretty talented kids to chose from, yet they all end up playing a certain style that is not technique oriented. Is it the same on the boys side? The U12G A and B team and U13 team all seem to be identical in style of play.

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                  #98
                  why all the hype about pioneers , they are a mediocre team , their schedule has been easy so far, they will be lucky to see .500 by end of season .Blonde girl isnt that good shame on you for putting all your hope on one player on your team

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    why all the hype about pioneers , they are a mediocre team , their schedule has been easy so far, they will be lucky to see .500 by end of season .Blonde girl isnt that good shame on you for putting all your hope on one player on your team
                    And shame on you for making such harsh judgments on an 11 year old. Your little Mia may not even be playing by the time she is 14. Hope you are prepared for that.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      They may have played in Orange but the two girls you talk about hardly come out of the game for us, although one is a defender so not sure where the goals talk comes from!
                      Western and Pioneers hope they can get a few more of those SDA players

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Honestly, this is why girls soccer in Mass as a whole is not very good. There are some programs in the state(Scorpions,Stars,Western,MPS) that try to teach soccer the correct way. They work on developing footwork, stategy, fundamentals ect.. Other clubs like the Pioneers teach terrible soccer. This is basically dumbing down our soccer. Those kids will just be kick and run players. This State needs dynamic players. don't get me wrong, there is also a need for players with speed and hustle. Just not entire teams built like that. So it's not OK for the "uncle Ed's of soccer" to teach them to be grinders. these kids are 11, develop them. It is probably a case that the coach has no coaching skill.
                        I am sick and tired of hearing how there are only a few clubs in Mass, (listed above) that teach the game the correct way. There are smaller clubs with outstanding coaches who are unable to draw the talented numbers necessary to compete with the behemoths, so they are constantly accused of poor coaching or development. Try working with a group of 7 and 8 yr olds for 3 or 4 years in an academy structure only to see the few talented ones get sucked up by the bigger clubs. Please stop denouncing the coaching of everybody who isn't working for stars or nefc.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          I am sick and tired of hearing how there are only a few clubs in Mass, (listed above) that teach the game the correct way. There are smaller clubs with outstanding coaches who are unable to draw the talented numbers necessary to compete with the behemoths, so they are constantly accused of poor coaching or development. Try working with a group of 7 and 8 yr olds for 3 or 4 years in an academy structure only to see the few talented ones get sucked up by the bigger clubs. Please stop denouncing the coaching of everybody who isn't working for stars or nefc.
                          Who is talking about NEFC teaching good soccer....they are the biggest bunch of kick & runners

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Western and Pioneers hope they can get a few more of those SDA players
                            At some point we will. Work hard over the Winter and be ready for tryouts next Spring ;-)

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              At some point we will. Work hard over the Winter and be ready for tryouts next Spring ;-)
                              Thats what I want for my daughter....have her play for a pioneers team that will teach her how to run around like a headless chicken kicking at anything...pioneers are a joke

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Thats what I want for my daughter....have her play for a pioneers team that will teach her how to run around like a headless chicken kicking at anything...pioneers are a joke
                                Don't forget, you can also pay $1000 to have "Uncle Ed" scream and yell at her and bring her self esteem down. Just the thing an 11/12 yr old girl needs!

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