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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Stock market approaching new all time high
    Unemployment down
    Black unemployment at historic low
    Hispanic unemployment at historic low
    Manufacturing returning to the US
    Manufacturing jobs increasing
    Global markets indicating US winning trade war
    Tarde deficits trending down

    Yeah, I'd say the he brought in the best people.
    So thank you Obama for setting all of this up...

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      I've never liked the guy going back to before the USFL. That's not the point.

      Is he a headcase? Yes. Illegitimate? How so?

      But, all of what you say just proves that even if he did do something great, you'd still make excuses. When you always point to the negative, you become negative, and your message is lost in negativity.
      No excuses. He's a sociopathic criminal. This is not about politics. This guy is dangerously stupid, nothing but greedy and a pathological liar.

      He's very lucky in that he's arisen in a point of history where the country is seemingly divided into two "teams" and the people on these teams just want their team to look better or "win", regardless of what it does to the long run of the country.

      The sad part of this is I remember the day when conservatives were the adults in the room, and could be trusted to enact sensible, prudent financial governance and understood that you couldn't destroy water, air and land for corporate profit, because it would end up costing the government more to clean up in the future.

      There was no reason, in an upcycle economy for tax cuts, except for trump to short term goose economic numbers (while in the resulting hit to deficits becomes the next guys problem). You cut taxes in a downcycle.
      You try and fill your silos in the good wheat growing seasons, with the forward thinking of getting through the drought years.

      Rolling back car emissions and mileage standards?
      Why? Forget global warming, how about less pollution and "conserving" fossil based fuels, not to mention making and encouraging technological advances.

      Now trump is going to bully the Fed to keep rates low, In an economy that is heating up. That's madness, that's not conservatism.

      He will do anything to get a good print today or next month, damn what happens to the long term, or who he has to hurt to keep his fan base content.

      Reagan supported Volcker in raising rates to levels that actually caused a recession, for the long term benefit of tamping out a stubborn inflation. That was conservative.
      Saving what you can today, for a brighter tomorrow.

      This guy you support is a charlatan, he has no philosophical or moral core.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        I've never liked the guy going back to before the USFL. That's not the point.

        Is he a headcase? Yes. Illegitimate? How so?

        But, all of what you say just proves that even if he did do something great, you'd still make excuses. When you always point to the negative, you become negative, and your message is lost in negativity.
        When the POTUS is a pathological liar and blowhard bully .... exactly who is to blame for the negativity? He could of course a) tell the truth; and b) represent the people of the US and not just a small slither of the population known as his base.

        ps ... and that is exactly the point... there is not even the slightest indication that he could do anything great... but please let us know what that might look like....

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          When the POTUS is a pathological liar and blowhard bully .... exactly who is to blame for the negativity? He could of course a) tell the truth; and b) represent the people of the US and not just a small slither of the population known as his base.

          ps ... and that is exactly the point... there is not even the slightest indication that he could do anything great... but please let us know what that might look like....
          yet he is fairly rich
          won the Presidency
          and has a booming economy with very low UE ( highest minority working i believe ever)
          that is a great accomplishment for all Americans not just him- you dont have to like him

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            yet he is fairly rich
            won the Presidency
            and has a booming economy with very low UE ( highest minority working i believe ever)
            that is a great accomplishment for all Americans not just him- you dont have to like him
            Sounds like Obama without the fairly rich part

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              yet he is fairly rich
              won the Presidency
              and has a booming economy with very low UE ( highest minority working i believe ever)
              that is a great accomplishment for all Americans not just him- you dont have to like him
              Fairly rich --- you have evidence of this or are you relying on what he says?
              He did win the presidency
              booming economy ... as many have pointed out this has had little to do with him... simoly piggy-backing on Obama's efforts... note UE simply continuing trend of last eight years

              He has no great accomplishments

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Fairly rich --- you have evidence of this or are you relying on what he says?
                He did win the presidency
                booming economy ... as many have pointed out this has had little to do with him... simoly piggy-backing on Obama's efforts... note UE simply continuing trend of last eight years

                He has no great accomplishments
                His businesses declared bankruptcy how many times? Owes how much money to Russians? Started with how much from his dad and how much did he lose? Let me guess, you took your philosophy class on "clear thinking" at Trump U, along with your "Balancing Checkbooks 101" class.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  yet he is fairly rich
                  won the Presidency
                  and has a booming economy with very low UE ( highest minority working i believe ever)
                  that is a great accomplishment for all Americans not just him- you dont have to like him
                  Different poster - I tried. I really tried once he was elected to give him a chance. I waited for him to "pivot" presidential. He hasn't and never will. And it wasn't that I was a huge HRC fan but I felt she was the better of the two choices. He had 1000 warning flags and they've all played out just like I feared.

                  I know you cons can't believe it but Dems can also run a strong economy, in fact they have many times. In most recent years the economy has tanked under GOP leadership. The next blowup is coming soon - unless he resigns in shame soon.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    So was Hope Hicks' visit to Air Force one purely a social visit? Or, since she was involved with the drafting of the memo about the Trump Tower meeting, was it a chance to get their stories straight? Would she lie for him? Given Trumps rants about that meeting this weekend it definitely appears suspicious.

                    Really, look what happened when Bill Clinton visited Loretta ***** on the airplane on the tamac....lol.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Really, look what happened when Bill Clinton visited Loretta ***** on the airplane on the tamac....lol.
                      How about what Horace Harding did?

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Sen. Chris Murphy thinks tech giants banning Alex Jones’ Infowars is a good start, but says the “survival of our democracy” depends on sites like Facebook and YouTube removing additional content.

                        “Infowars is the tip of a giant iceberg of hate and lies that uses sites like Facebook and YouTube to tear our nation apart. These companies must do more than take down one website. The survival of our democracy depends on it,” Murphy, D-Conn., tweeted on Monday.





                        Advocates limiting free speech all in the name of democracy.

                        ummmmwhat??


                        At what point does the things Alex Jones says and does become the same as yelling "FIRE" in a crowded theater? Isn't that the line where free speech ends? Is what he says a parallel?

                        Hence, the debate......

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Exactly...freedom of speech as long as it is the liberal voice, otherwise, suppress because it is a danger to America and democracy.

                          I'm a liberal and I don't believe that at all.

                          I believe in the Constitution. I think there can be an argument made as to whether or not Alex Jones is a danger to our democracy. I don't believe you censor him unless he crosses the line defined there.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            No excuses. He's a sociopathic criminal. This is not about politics. This guy is dangerously stupid, nothing but greedy and a pathological liar.

                            He's very lucky in that he's arisen in a point of history where the country is seemingly divided into two "teams" and the people on these teams just want their team to look better or "win", regardless of what it does to the long run of the country.

                            The sad part of this is I remember the day when conservatives were the adults in the room, and could be trusted to enact sensible, prudent financial governance and understood that you couldn't destroy water, air and land for corporate profit, because it would end up costing the government more to clean up in the future.

                            There was no reason, in an upcycle economy for tax cuts, except for trump to short term goose economic numbers (while in the resulting hit to deficits becomes the next guys problem). You cut taxes in a downcycle.
                            You try and fill your silos in the good wheat growing seasons, with the forward thinking of getting through the drought years.

                            Rolling back car emissions and mileage standards?
                            Why? Forget global warming, how about less pollution and "conserving" fossil based fuels, not to mention making and encouraging technological advances.

                            Now trump is going to bully the Fed to keep rates low, In an economy that is heating up. That's madness, that's not conservatism.

                            He will do anything to get a good print today or next month, damn what happens to the long term, or who he has to hurt to keep his fan base content.

                            Reagan supported Volcker in raising rates to levels that actually caused a recession, for the long term benefit of tamping out a stubborn inflation. That was conservative.
                            Saving what you can today, for a brighter tomorrow.

                            This guy you support is a charlatan, he has no philosophical or moral core.
                            Damn well said.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              I'm a liberal and I don't believe that at all.

                              I believe in the Constitution. I think there can be an argument made as to whether or not Alex Jones is a danger to our democracy. I don't believe you censor him unless he crosses the line defined there.
                              I agree with you, entirely. But with the added caveat that if I ever run into alex jones, im going to knock his teeth in. For Sandy hook. And the cops can arrest me, I wont resist.

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                                From National Review, not a lib rag.....

                                https://www.nationalreview.com/magaz.../trumponomics/

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