Merry Christmas from Donald Trump

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Trump’s VA Secretary David Shulkin has come under widespread calls to resign after it was revealed that he wasted taxpayer money during an extravagant trip to Europe and then had his staff try to cover it up. Shulkin keeps refusing to resign, but the scandal isn’t going away. Now his Chief of Staff Vivieca Wright Simpson is taking the fall by quietly “retiring” according to Reuters (link) – which in these kinds of situations is code for resigning in scandal.

Another one of "the best people " leaving? Say it isn't so!

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the weapons our marines carry are fully automatic- huge difference

Different poster. But it’s semantics really. Yes M16 is fully automatic meaning that you squeeze the trigger a stream of bullets come out. A M16 can shot 700-900 bullets per minute

Semi automatic you need to squeeze trigger for each bullet. Bullets still come out extremely quickly. Enough to kill many people in a short amount of time. An expert can shot of 138 bullets in a minute. An average shooter can do about 90 shots in a hour.

A bump stock would increase the rate of fire of a semiautomatic AR15 to mimic an automatic weapon.

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Yuppers. If I had an automatic computer with a 30-round clip, I'd have gotten it done correctly 28 times. I think that's what "is it open" guy has.

in computer lingo it is called gigs or maybe a bump mouse
maybe get one of those standy desks

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it doesnt matter where the guns come from- the only thing that matters is laws, right?
your myth said nothing about origin it said if you had lots of laws you would have less gun deaths
Illinois has the strictest gun laws and 30 shootings every weekend- not too good

And Chicago's terrible problem is enough to make the overall truth that blows the myth invalid?

Don't you think every rule has it's outliers, or what we call exceptions?


Isn't there some kind of old saying about that?

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Nobody is saying ban all guns.

A 30-06 round will do a fair bit of damage. It's tough to spray the room with a bolt-action rifle. You'll still kill people, but not as conveniently or as many.

Same thing with a revolver. a .38 revolver will do fair damage, but even with a speed loader (which should be banned, too), would do less total carnage than a Glock 17 pistol with a 17-round magazine.

We need common ground. Republicans should dump the really stupid arguments and help our nation get there. It's the patriotic thing to do.

The GOP put party over country a long time ago. Their so called patriotismis all an act and a convenient diversion against the Dems.

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Different poster. But it’s semantics really. Yes M16 is fully automatic meaning that you squeeze the trigger a stream of bullets come out. A M16 can shot 700-900 bullets per minute

Semi automatic you need to squeeze trigger for each bullet. Bullets still come out extremely quickly. Enough to kill many people in a short amount of time. An expert can shot of 138 bullets in a minute. An average shooter can do about 90 shots in a hour.

A bump stock would increase the rate of fire of a semiautomatic AR15 to mimic an automatic weapon.

we dont use m16s anymore- and lots of mods can mimic full auto but the weapon is not full auto if you ever fired a fully automatic weapon you would understand
in the hands of a trained shooter a 9 shot handgun can put 30 rounds downrange in under a minute

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Myth: The Second Amendment protects all gun rights

The Second Amendment reads, “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” The part about “well-regulated” is often ignored. As The New Yorker pointed out, “If the Founders hadn’t wanted guns to be regulated, and thoroughly, they would not have put the phrase ‘well regulated’ in the amendment.”

Fox News reported that Michael Moore suggested a 28th amendment, imposing a few clarifications to those words. His suggestions included magazine limits, fingerprint-recognizing triggers, storing guns at a registered facility and licensing.

“Current restrictions placed on the Centers for Disease Control, due to successful lobbying by the NRA, have prohibited them from studying the gun violence epidemic in the U.S.,” he pointed out. “These rules need to be removed and the funding restored. Science will then be free to find out why we are alone among nations in killing each other at such a massive rate.”


http://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/co...ontrol.html/9/

You need a Snowflake reality check. Spend some time in Venezuela, Iran or maybe Syria. Then report back what you think of the second amendment.

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And Chicago's terrible problem is enough to make the overall truth that blows the myth invalid?

Don't you think every rule has it's outliers, or what we call exceptions?


Isn't there some kind of old saying about that?

it was just a crystal clear example

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The GOP put party over country a long time ago. Their so called patriotismis all an act and a convenient diversion against the Dems.

this coming from the side that rigged its own primary?

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it doesnt matter where the guns come from- the only thing that matters is laws, right?
your myth said nothing about origin it said if you had lots of laws you would have less gun deaths
Illinois has the strictest gun laws and 30 shootings every weekend- not too good

Ahh, so another stupid Republican talking point "we can't have laws, because they don't work."

Well, except for marijuana, right? You like those laws. Or, immigration. We need more of those laws. Imagine, if Lawn Darts killed just one person, and the government outlawed them, then there'd continue to be Lawn Darts deaths, right? Oxycontin, we're looking to make laws about that, aren't we, to limit the supply.

That is, if laws don't work because criminals don't follow them, then why have any laws at all, for anything?

So, stop repeating a mantra from your overlords that you haven't thought about because you don't understand "thinking."

The other Republican "talking point," that would make no sense if Republican snowflake sheep could think for themselves, is this idea of state and local laws. If guns are easy to get in Arizona, Virginia, Texas, and Florida, and difficult to get in Chicago, guess where the bad guys go to buy their guns?

No state has border controls. There is no "Chicago border security" staffing "Access points" to the city like a border with Mexico, Canada, or, from here, France. The borders are open. So, local deaths are caused by lax and loose laws elsewhere. That's why in 1994 there was what we call a "federal" ban on assault weapons. See the word, "federal." Look it up. Essentially, it means someone in Chicago can't go to Florida and get easy access to a semiautomatic rifle, like the AR.

So, a reasonable ban on types of weapons would be "federal." It should cover semi autos and mags with 9 rounds. Start there. In 5 years, watch the mass shootings decline in number.

I know, your head is spinning, you can't think, because you weren't told to by Fox News, but here's why the mass shootings go down:

If the 1994 assault weapon ban had remained in effect, where do you think an 18 year old Florida guy, and remember, before the killing he was a "good guy with guns," would get his hands on an AR 15 for $1500. If he could at all find such a weapon, it would be black market. How much do you think it would cost there and which criminal would have risked exposure to sell it to such a customer?

Well, really, how do we know that will work? Well, other countries have mental illness, the same as us, have the same movies and video games, and they don't suffer the mass shootings with the frequency we do. Guess what they got rid of? I know, your head hurts, they got rid of the semiautomatic weapons with the big clips.

Now quit drooling on your shoes and go back to Fox News for more talking points.

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we dont use m16s anymore- and lots of mods can mimic full auto but the weapon is not full auto if you ever fired a fully automatic weapon you would understand
in the hands of a trained shooter a 9 shot handgun can put 30 rounds downrange in under a minute

A semi automatic is not fully automatic.

But 90 -150 bullets a minute at semi automatic rate can still kill a lot of people in a short time. A bump stock justs increases that rate.

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You need a Snowflake reality check. Spend some time in Venezuela, Iran or maybe Syria. Then report back what you think of the second amendment.

I haven't been to two of those. But I can assure you, none have a second amendment.

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Different poster. But it’s semantics really. Yes M16 is fully automatic meaning that you squeeze the trigger a stream of bullets come out. A M16 can shot 700-900 bullets per minute

Semi automatic you need to squeeze trigger for each bullet. Bullets still come out extremely quickly. Enough to kill many people in a short amount of time. An expert can shot of 138 bullets in a minute. An average shooter can do about 90 shots in a hour.

A bump stock would increase the rate of fire of a semiautomatic AR15 to mimic an automatic weapon.

Yes, I know that fully automatic weapons are banned (except those that are grandfathered). How many fully automatic weapons do you see used in mass shootings?

Anyway, the points the same. If these "pencils" you speak of are such efficient weapons, or cars, or butter knives, then our troops would have those.

And in what way is a bump stock even legal? It's actual marketed purpose is to make your weapon automatic. Somebody needs to get sued out of existence for that.

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You need a Snowflake reality check. Spend some time in Venezuela, Iran or maybe Syria. Then report back what you think of the second amendment.

But we don't live in any of those countries, do we?

What relevance does that have to this country, operating under a different form of government, with a well-established Constitution that has proven it's durability over time, with a cultural historically different than these countries, and thus, creating a society with a basic value system much different than those?

Isn't your response generally what is known as a "straw man" argument?

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Yes, I know that fully automatic weapons are banned (except those that are grandfathered). How many fully automatic weapons do you see used in mass shootings?

Anyway, the points the same. If these "pencils" you speak of are such efficient weapons, or cars, or butter knives, then our troops would have those.

And in what way is a bump stock even legal? It's actual marketed purpose is to make your weapon automatic. Somebody needs to get sued out of existence for that.

You are preaching to the choir ...