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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Proof is there. Just need to open your eyes, comrade ivan.
    Lay out your "proof". Go ahead. Show everyone the smoking gun you have.

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      Comrade Ivan wants proof of vote tampering.

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        Yet the GOP and his fan base are still behind him. Just yesterday the GOP blocked several proposals to related to Russiagate, including increased spending to prevent election meddling, that were shot down. Even if more voters cry foul (and they're not among the GOP base) Congress will continue to turn a blind eye. Our only hope is to get vote those traitors out of office - because if you put party over country you are a traitor - so that the traitor in the oval office eventually quits or is indicted by Mueller.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Comrade Ivan wants proof of vote tampering.
          Ummm. You said the proof was there. And that I needed to open my eyes. I asked you to provide said proof. You can't. Another neutered lib.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Yet the GOP and his fan base are still behind him. Just yesterday the GOP blocked several proposals to related to Russiagate, including increased spending to prevent election meddling, that were shot down. Even if more voters cry foul (and they're not among the GOP base) Congress will continue to turn a blind eye. Our only hope is to get vote those traitors out of office - because if you put party over country you are a traitor - so that the traitor in the oval office eventually quits or is indicted by Mueller.
            So Obama was a traitor? I didn't say that but that is exactly what you are saying with the logic provided above. He knew about election meddling. Didn't do anything until after the election.

            Just so we are clear. Obama is a traitor. Please confirm. Popular thought is he did nothing because he was convinced Hillary was going to win. So party over country.

            BTW. Polling shows that the Russia narrative isnt really connecting with voters. The Dems are tripling down on this as an issue. Not a recipe for success in November. But please keep it up.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              So Obama was a traitor? I didn't say that but that is exactly what you are saying with the logic provided above. He knew about election meddling. Didn't do anything until after the election.

              Just so we are clear. Obama is a traitor. Please confirm. Popular thought is he did nothing because he was convinced Hillary was going to win. So party over country.

              BTW. Polling shows that the Russia narrative isnt really connecting with voters. The Dems are tripling down on this as an issue. Not a recipe for success in November. But please keep it up.
              If Obama wanted to make sure Hillary would win he would have outed it all, sealed Trump's fate. Instead he let the intel agencies continue to do their jobs and gather information (much of which came out after the election and is still being gathered). That's what you on the right can't seem to understand.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                So Obama was a traitor? I didn't say that but that is exactly what you are saying with the logic provided above. He knew about election meddling. Didn't do anything until after the election.

                Just so we are clear. Obama is a traitor. Please confirm. Popular thought is he did nothing because he was convinced Hillary was going to win. So party over country.

                BTW. Polling shows that the Russia narrative isnt really connecting with voters. The Dems are tripling down on this as an issue. Not a recipe for success in November. But please keep it up.
                It is only less of an issue with with die hard republicans. Overall only 1/3 of all voters think Helsinki was well handled. Another 70% overall believe Russia interfered in the election, and even there half of GOP voters think they did it. Another 2/3's of all voters are concerned that Russia will interfere in November. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-tr...tion-meddling/

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                  The WH has eliminated the roll of Cybersecurity coordinator. Bolton thinks he knows everything.

                  "The White House eliminated the position of cybersecurity coordinator on the National Security Council on Tuesday, doing away with a post central to developing policy to defend against increasingly sophisticated digital attacks and the use of offensive cyber weapons.

                  A memorandum circulated by an aide to the new national security adviser, John R. Bolton, said the post was no longer considered necessary because lower-level officials had already made cybersecurity issues a “core function” of the president’s national security team.*

                  Cybersecurity experts and members of Congress said they were mystified by the move, though some suggested Mr. Bolton did not want any competitive power centers emerging inside the national security apparatus."

                  https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/15/t...rsecurity.html

                  *another poster showed that at least one department (State) has spent zero of the dollars allocated thus far. For it being a "top priority" there doesn't seem to be much to show for it. The entire intel community has been warning us about it, yet the WH and the GOP led congress block efforts. Trump's half-hearted statement that he "believes" our intel was a joke and his actions speak louder than words.

                  "For example, Dan Coats, the director of national intelligence, has warned Trump and the American people for months that Russia not only interfered in the 2016 election but also plans to do so again this year.

                  “There should be no doubt that Russia perceives that its past efforts have been successful and views the 2018 midterm US elections as a potential target for Russian influence operations,” Coats told the Senate Intelligence Committee in February. “Frankly, the United States is under attack.”

                  Coats hit this theme again just three days before Trump was scheduled to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki, Finland.

                  “The digital infrastructure that serves this country is literally under attack” by Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, and other hostile foreign countries, Coats said at an event hosted by the conservative Hudson Institute think tank in Washington, DC. “The warning lights are blinking red again.” https://www.vox.com/2018/7/18/175869...gence-no-coats

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    If Obama wanted to make sure Hillary would win he would have outed it all, sealed Trump's fate. Instead he let the intel agencies continue to do their jobs and gather information (much of which came out after the election and is still being gathered). That's what you on the right can't seem to understand.
                    And see how well that worked for Obama and Hillary.

                    So, tell me again why Trump should be hands-off the intelligence agencies?

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      If Obama wanted to make sure Hillary would win he would have outed it all, sealed Trump's fate. Instead he let the intel agencies continue to do their jobs and gather information (much of which came out after the election and is still being gathered). That's what you on the right can't seem to understand.
                      They knew in 2015 and again in 2017
                      The DNC still hasn't let the intel agencies view their servers
                      They used an outside consulting firm
                      Do they not trust the FBI?
                      You still don't get it- everybody knows the Russians meddled they have for decades- Dems want us to think it's something new, it isn't
                      You have to prove Trump allowed and helped them when he wasn't POTUS and had no power and has continued since being elected

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        The WH has eliminated the roll of Cybersecurity coordinator. Bolton thinks he knows everything.

                        "The White House eliminated the position of cybersecurity coordinator on the National Security Council on Tuesday, doing away with a post central to developing policy to defend against increasingly sophisticated digital attacks and the use of offensive cyber weapons.

                        A memorandum circulated by an aide to the new national security adviser, John R. Bolton, said the post was no longer considered necessary because lower-level officials had already made cybersecurity issues a “core function” of the president’s national security team.*

                        Cybersecurity experts and members of Congress said they were mystified by the move, though some suggested Mr. Bolton did not want any competitive power centers emerging inside the national security apparatus."

                        https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/15/t...rsecurity.html

                        *another poster showed that at least one department (State) has spent zero of the dollars allocated thus far. For it being a "top priority" there doesn't seem to be much to show for it. The entire intel community has been warning us about it, yet the WH and the GOP led congress block efforts. Trump's half-hearted statement that he "believes" our intel was a joke and his actions speak louder than words.

                        "For example, Dan Coats, the director of national intelligence, has warned Trump and the American people for months that Russia not only interfered in the 2016 election but also plans to do so again this year.

                        “There should be no doubt that Russia perceives that its past efforts have been successful and views the 2018 midterm US elections as a potential target for Russian influence operations,” Coats told the Senate Intelligence Committee in February. “Frankly, the United States is under attack.”

                        Coats hit this theme again just three days before Trump was scheduled to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki, Finland.

                        “The digital infrastructure that serves this country is literally under attack” by Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, and other hostile foreign countries, Coats said at an event hosted by the conservative Hudson Institute think tank in Washington, DC. “The warning lights are blinking red again.” https://www.vox.com/2018/7/18/175869...gence-no-coats
                        Name a govt agency that hasn't been hacked in the last 10 years

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Yet the GOP and his fan base are still behind him. Just yesterday the GOP blocked several proposals to related to Russiagate, including increased spending to prevent election meddling, that were shot down. Even if more voters cry foul (and they're not among the GOP base) Congress will continue to turn a blind eye. Our only hope is to get vote those traitors out of office - because if you put party over country you are a traitor - so that the traitor in the oval office eventually quits or is indicted by Mueller.
                          I suppose they could've just voted "present"..........

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            If Obama wanted to make sure Hillary would win he would have outed it all, sealed Trump's fate. Instead he let the intel agencies continue to do their jobs and gather information (much of which came out after the election and is still being gathered). That's what you on the right can't seem to understand.
                            Nope. Obama was convinced Hillary would win and didn't need to intervene. It is well documented that the Obama White House knew about attempted Russian interference. Not debatable. Also not debatable that he sat on the information.

                            If the Dems want to blame someone. Blame Obama.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              And see how well that worked for Obama and Hillary.

                              So, tell me again why Trump should be hands-off the intelligence agencies?
                              Haven't the intelligence agencies proven that they should be viewed cautiously? Between Comey, Clapper and Brennan, Strozk, Page, McCabe and who knows how many others, why the hell would anyone put blind faith in what they say?

                              Another obvious question. Why the hell is Rosentstein and Coats doing in Aspen? Coats on the stage with Andrea Mitchell doing a clown show? How is that helping us?

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Name a govt agency that hasn't been hacked in the last 10 years
                                Yes, hacking our security infrastructure is good.....

                                ....for the russians.

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