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    Trump has been a corrupt grifter his whole life. If you think that he walked away from any offers of Russian help, and didnt completely throw himself in on colluding with them, out of some sense of patriotism or principles of decency or conscience, well then that would be pretty funny.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Trump has been a corrupt grifter his whole life. If you think that he walked away from any offers of Russian help, and didnt completely throw himself in on colluding with them, out of some sense of patriotism or principles of decency or conscience, well then that would be pretty funny.
      After his multiple bankruptcies no bank would lend him money. He was desperate for cash.
      Putin and Russian oligarchs were flush with cash they were trying to launder outside of Russia, not only to clean it but also so that they would have non Russian holdings in case things went south within Russia (economic collapse, fall out of favor with the Kremlin). They al own real estate around the world in favorite cities - NY, London, Miami, Paris. They all have money in multinational businesses. Investing in Donnie's business or real estate was one of many options they to park their money. Read up on the Panama papers. The Russians are masters at moving money around the world with no apparent trace. they didn't train Manafort very well in how to go about it. Even if Trump didn't knowingly sell us out he was such an easy mark. He may not get nailed for collusion or other government crimes but rather IRS and financial fraud. For sure he's 100% guilty being a fool.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        If you know anything about Muellers mandate it has 2 parts
        Russian meddling and trump collusion
        No American disputes that the Russians meddled in this , past and will continue into our elections that's not the witch hunt part as there is ample evidence
        The trump collusion part is where they are hunting as there is no connection to date
        The 5 guilty pleas are for process crimes andpast misdeeds but are designed to apply pressure
        The Russian indictments are easy as the Russians won't present their people just like we wouldnt
        - Mueller isn't done yet
        - There are a host of other potential crimes Mueller is examining, not just collusion
        - Even if trump wasn't colluding, he's an idiot for propping up Putin. He has no concept of optics. He only cares about himself, not our country.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          - Mueller isn't done yet
          - There are a host of other potential crimes Mueller is examining, not just collusion
          - Even if trump wasn't colluding, he's an idiot for propping up Putin. He has no concept of optics. He only cares about himself, not our country.
          Collusion is not a crime
          You do know that, right?

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            Correction.

            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Collusion is not a crime
            You do know that, right?
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collusion

            Sorry but if your definition of a crime is by saying and using the word “Collusion” then of course not and no different than saying the word “Theft “ by itself .You need to steal something in order to enforce the crime and with theft just like collusion the connection has to be made with the crime.
            Please remember you don’t have to be the criminal/ Perp to commit the crime but as long as you’re aware of the action with a willingness to participate you are a conspirator. ( receiving stolen property from the thief , you will be charged for receiving stolen property, not theft or burglary) and depending on its value will determine a felony or misdemeanor charge.
            If a Trump campaign worker or Trump himself willing knew of Russians within the Russian govt was providing damaging information and using it to further advance and help his Presidential run then that is collusion.
            We don’t know that unless a person or persons from the Russian govt can provide that or the Trump camp was secretly either legally or illegally recorded of such conversations, or if members of the Trump campaign turned evidence over proving such action.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Collusion is not a crime
              You do know that, right?
              Treason is a crime.

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                Our asswhole in Chief just called the EU our enemies.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Treason is a crime.
                  yes it is, a very serious crime
                  but like all other crimes you have to prove your case not just wish it

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Our asswhole in Chief just called the EU our enemies.
                    "Well, I think we have a lot of foes. I think the European Union is a foe, what they do to us in trade. Now, you wouldn't think of the European Union, but they're a foe. Russia is foe in certain respects. China is a foe economically, certainly they are a foe. But that doesn't mean they are bad. It doesn't mean anything. It means that they are competitive," Mr. Trump said at his golf club in Turnberry, Scotland.

                    context is a wonderful thing ,try using it

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      yes it is, a very serious crime
                      but like all other crimes you have to prove your case not just wish it
                      Wishing not necessary, there's an open investigation.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        "Well, I think we have a lot of foes. I think the European Union is a foe, what they do to us in trade. Now, you wouldn't think of the European Union, but they're a foe. Russia is foe in certain respects. China is a foe economically, certainly they are a foe. But that doesn't mean they are bad. It doesn't mean anything. It means that they are competitive," Mr. Trump said at his golf club in Turnberry, Scotland.

                        context is a wonderful thing ,try using it
                        So he's lumping in the EU with Russia and China?

                        And how is the EU a foe in trade, exactly?

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          So he's lumping in the EU with Russia and China?

                          And how is the EU a foe in trade, exactly?
                          EU and NATO are foes because Putin tells trump to say that. Those are his orders. He will get more ordets tomorrow, when trump polishes Putin's shoes.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            So he's lumping in the EU with Russia and China?

                            And how is the EU a foe in trade, exactly?
                            Putin wants the EU gone, therefore it is now our foe. Meanwhile he's calling Russia a "competitor."

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              "Well, I think we have a lot of foes. I think the European Union is a foe, what they do to us in trade. Now, you wouldn't think of the European Union, but they're a foe. Russia is foe in certain respects. China is a foe economically, certainly they are a foe. But that doesn't mean they are bad. It doesn't mean anything. It means that they are competitive," Mr. Trump said at his golf club in Turnberry, Scotland.

                              context is a wonderful thing ,try using it

                              Fun fact: the course he's playing this week (Mr I won't have time for golf) is hemoraging money. So he tries to prop it up with a little visit and tweeting about it as well. He's' as transparent as a wet tissue but so stupid and egotistical he thinks he's fooling everyone. No wonder Putin can manipulate him so easily.

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                                Putin is really the stable genius.

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