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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    So grandma has to stay home all the time because you're too selfish to ear a mask? Got it. What about the recovering cancer patient? They're canon fodder also?
    Really where’s grandma going anyway?

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      probably the stupidest thing I have read here in a long time - and there is plenty to choose from. The issue isn't the kids dying - which is tragic when it happens, it is that the kids bring it home. Look at the Maine wedding and all the people that died that didnt attend the wedding but were murdered by the idiots that did and that criminal couple. Stop looking at kids statistics, they are carriers that unknowingly bring it home. Imagine being the kid that is responsible for their grandma's death because he or she wined enough to have mom sign her up for town soccer.
      What Are stupid about actual facts? That’s what I posted, the actual facts.

      The issue IS the number of kids dying if you are talking about school attendance and risk.
      Your Maine comment is an allegation, conjecture , theory.

      We are learning every day about this virus. Indeed, what was supposedly learned yesterday can be proved incorrect today. That’s one of the problems when the issue becomes politicized. There isn’t any patience for results and study before jumping to conclusions.

      But the facts are clear. Children hardly get it, and if they do, the consequences are not as bad as the older ages. The label of being a “ carrier “ is a theory.

      Spreading to other family members , that’s conjecture and speculation. There aren’t any exact controlled studies that actually prove it. In addition, the key factorS for getting the disease appears to be age and pre existing conditions.
      We know who needs to be protected. The issue is if that we continue to short circuit the lives of those least affected and increase the damage to society. We should address the behavior of those that might be affected. We are doing the opposite in many cases.

      Many things have changed in the past few decades regarding the increasing percentage of older adults with pre existing conditions. In addition, lifestyle and genetics has decreased the immune systems of older Americans in a general sense. You combine these facts with behavior, and the introduction of a novel pathogen and the number of infected is obviously going to be more than a seasonal flu.

      Pre existing conditions are much more than the handful of what are listed by the media over an over again. There are hidden pre existing conditions cloaked by other disease symptoms.

      Regardless. If you adjust for population increases and life expectancy compared to flu pandemics of the past , like 1958/59 , 1968/69, 200,000 deceased Americans ( if you believe the number) is right in line with historical perspective.

      And when one considers the increases in Americans pre existing conditions, and the drop in immune ability, the shock and awe of this disease may be reduced much to the chagrin of many.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Really where’s grandma going anyway?
        Hello.
        Yes the over 70 crowd must take precautions
        The rest of us need to go on with life.
        Why would we try to protect the 1% at the expense of the 99%

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          The grand USA Experiment officially ended the moment a government-forced shutdown, supposedly to “flatten the curve,” became endless NOT because COVID was worse than feared, but because it was NOT as bad as predicted & those who messed up became invested in not having been wrong. No political will to end it.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Getting drunk isn't contagious. It's a choice.
            What about the grandma they hit while driving?

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              Many elderly living alone who want to be safe by following guidelines are questioning if this is living or just being alive. The younger generations can only do this for so long as well, it will be a mark in their lives never forgotten and hopefully not the new normal.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Many elderly living alone who want to be safe by following guidelines are questioning if this is living or just being alive. The younger generations can only do this for so long as well, it will be a mark in their lives never forgotten and hopefully not the new normal.
                Get back in the hippy bus

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                  there’s only one parachute, most human beings “in every country” - including old ones - will give it to the 15-year-old and not her grandfather.

                  I know, crazy, huh?

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    The grand USA Experiment officially ended the moment a government-forced shutdown, supposedly to “flatten the curve,” became endless NOT because COVID was worse than feared, but because it was NOT as bad as predicted & those who messed up became invested in not having been wrong. No political will to end it.
                    With govs like Lamont getting unprecedented rights, do you think they want to abdicate? Look no further than who has the most to lose and you will understand the continued response. Democrats needed this pandemic and needed the american people to feel economic pain because they were on a course to be trounced by trump. Couldn’t have record low unemployment and american gdp growing at a healthy clip.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      With govs like Lamont getting unprecedented rights, do you think they want to abdicate? Look no further than who has the most to lose and you will understand the continued response. Democrats needed this pandemic and needed the american people to feel economic pain because they were on a course to be trounced by trump. Couldn’t have record low unemployment and american gdp growing at a healthy clip.
                      My opinion is that the plan you mention above, has back fired. As an independent I don’t identify with the current Democratic Party.

                      The CV response was always doomed because of the Democrats view of the role of government.
                      Republicans view government as a necessary evil. The less the better.
                      Democrats view government as GOD. Government takes care of the people completely.
                      Democrats were never going to allow something like this to take place and not insert themselves to micromanage all aspects of life.

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                        200,000 dead! TWO. HUNDRED. THOUSAND.

                        From #Covid, with #Covid, near #Covid, who really cares? It’s a nice round number and the rules we made let us say it, the Orange Man is very, very bad, so 200,000 it is.

                        Next stop, 250,000! We can’t wait!

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          So grandma has to stay home all the time because you're too selfish to ear a mask? Got it. What about the recovering cancer patient? They're canon fodder also?
                          So your solution is to shut down everything, un employ millions, mostly targeted at black and brown people, so you feel safe on your walks in the neighborhood and puff our your chest about good you are and how everyone else is selfish and irresponsible. And certainly you are not contributing to charity to help all those you think should stay home, while you work and get paid from home.

                          Sorry, Grandma and the cancer patient are going to have to stay in for awhile.....

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            200,000 dead! TWO. HUNDRED. THOUSAND.

                            From #Covid, with #Covid, near #Covid, who really cares? It’s a nice round number and the rules we made let us say it, the Orange Man is very, very bad, so 200,000 it is.

                            Next stop, 250,000! We can’t wait!
                            Your right, Trump should just shut everything down. We can all live in the basement for the next 2 years. Do not worry about all the people that loose their jobs, oh, except maybe the Uber Food delivery guy because how else am I going to get my sushie.

                            Bottom line, people were going to die because of this virus. Mostly over 70 years old and vulnerable. If you shut down, it causes other healthcare problems, poverty, suicides etc. You act as if this number could have been 0 and put 200,000 lives on trump. Could we have done better, maybe, could we have done worse, certainly. The options suck. Bring me one idea that you think would have worked better and I will tear it apart. you are just a nut burger liberal looking to tar trump with anything you can. There are lots of reasons to go after Trump, you just sound stupid going after him on this one.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              So grandma has to stay home all the time because you're too selfish to ear a mask? Got it. What about the recovering cancer patient? They're canon fodder also?
                              YES! If grandma or the cancer patient are worried about COVID, THEY need to quarantine and stay safe .... not the other 350mm americans! Are we to shut down the entire economy for less than 1% of our population?! Get a grip man .... do you hear yourself!? Why are their rights more important than mine? Until that small group can pay my bills to ensure their safety, they deserve nothing from me!

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                                Id like to think that I speak for most when I say I don't want anybody to get sick or die because of covid. I am all for helping others BUT my priority is my wife and kids.

                                Shutting down again, puts my wife and kids in danger. Financially, socially, health wise, etc... We cannot shut down again. Those elderly and vulnerable will simply need to be smart about their daily routine.

                                The virus is here and it simply isn't going anywhere at the moment. We need to be smart. But I don't want my babies growing up in a box/bubble. They are missing out big time right now. Fortunately, I have been lucky and haven't been laid off, many people cant say that.

                                We need to move forward, be smart, get back to some kind of normal. There are WAY more people that feel that way vs. we need to shut down again. For those that are scared, that's fine, just stay home and be quiet while the rest of us continue living.

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