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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Your right, Trump should just shut everything down. We can all live in the basement for the next 2 years. Do not worry about all the people that loose their jobs, oh, except maybe the Uber Food delivery guy because how else am I going to get my sushie.

    Bottom line, people were going to die because of this virus. Mostly over 70 years old and vulnerable. If you shut down, it causes other healthcare problems, poverty, suicides etc. You act as if this number could have been 0 and put 200,000 lives on trump. Could we have done better, maybe, could we have done worse, certainly. The options suck. Bring me one idea that you think would have worked better and I will tear it apart. you are just a nut burger liberal looking to tar trump with anything you can. There are lots of reasons to go after Trump, you just sound stupid going after him on this one.
    He can't help himself. He is brainwashed by CNN.

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      Originally posted by unregistered View Post
      id like to think that i speak for most when i say i don't want anybody to get sick or die because of covid. I am all for helping others but my priority is my wife and kids.

      Shutting down again, puts my wife and kids in danger. Financially, socially, health wise, etc... We cannot shut down again. Those elderly and vulnerable will simply need to be smart about their daily routine.

      The virus is here and it simply isn't going anywhere at the moment. We need to be smart. But i don't want my babies growing up in a box/bubble. They are missing out big time right now. Fortunately, i have been lucky and haven't been laid off, many people cant say that.

      We need to move forward, be smart, get back to some kind of normal. There are way more people that feel that way vs. We need to shut down again. For those that are scared, that's fine, just stay home and be quiet while the rest of us continue living.
      💯👍👍👍👍✌️

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        We don't have to shut down if people do the right things - mask up, limit socializing/distance etc. Don't send your kids to school sick. Don't go to work if you're sick. Don't let your kids have big parties like those idiot parents in MA. Don't have big parties yourself.

        Life won't be "normal" for awhile, but we can have it kind of normal. If numbers stay low then some restrictions will be eased, but they never will be if cases go up. Just be smart. I don't think that's too much to ask.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          We don't have to shut down if people do the right things - mask up, limit socializing/distance etc. Don't send your kids to school sick. Don't go to work if you're sick. Don't let your kids have big parties like those idiot parents in MA. Don't have big parties yourself.

          Life won't be "normal" for awhile, but we can have it kind of normal. If numbers stay low then some restrictions will be eased, but they never will be if cases go up. Just be smart. I don't think that's too much to ask.
          So you are saying “if we behave” the nanny state tyranny might relax.
          F That. Read the constitution. No pandemic exception.
          Fight back to get back to normal.
          The idea that we need to justify returning to normal is crap.
          No more nanny state.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            We don't have to shut down if people do the right things - mask up, limit socializing/distance etc. Don't send your kids to school sick. Don't go to work if you're sick. Don't let your kids have big parties like those idiot parents in MA. Don't have big parties yourself.

            Life won't be "normal" for awhile, but we can have it kind of normal. If numbers stay low then some restrictions will be eased, but they never will be if cases go up. Just be smart. I don't think that's too much to ask.
            you had me until you based it on easing restrictions
            govt has never and will never give up any power it acquires- name one time it has
            the constitution limits the power of the govt, and they have been clawing to get more of it since the day it was signed

            funny how you cant go to work to to public safety yet you can riot with no public safety concerns

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              you had me until you based it on easing restrictions
              govt has never and will never give up any power it acquires- name one time it has
              the constitution limits the power of the govt, and they have been clawing to get more of it since the day it was signed

              funny how you cant go to work to to public safety yet you can riot with no public safety concerns
              You are right.
              The more the virus goes away
              The more restrictions and tyranny ramp up
              If the citizens don’t push back on the government overstepping its authority
              The government will keep doing it until there are consequences
              Remember nazi Germany. Everything was “for your safety”

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                You are right.
                The more the virus goes away
                The more restrictions and tyranny ramp up
                If the citizens don’t push back on the government overstepping its authority
                The government will keep doing it until there are consequences
                Remember nazi Germany. Everything was “for your safety”
                I dont really know where you are coming from. As i see it, everyday things are getting back to normal. My kids are back in school albeit not everyday but more than in the spring. I went to eat at a restaurant each of the past few weeks. Stay cautious and alert! Let the scientists watch the data and learn from their past mistakes and make adjustments.

                Limit social interactions as much as possible especially with people you don't know. That is all anyone is really asking.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  My opinion is that the plan you mention above, has back fired. As an independent I don’t identify with the current Democratic Party.

                  The CV response was always doomed because of the Democrats view of the role of government.
                  Republicans view government as a necessary evil. The less the better.
                  Democrats view government as GOD. Government takes care of the people completely.
                  Democrats were never going to allow something like this to take place and not insert themselves to micromanage all aspects of life.
                  never waste a good pandemic

                  I pray there are enough smart voters in the swing states to stop the liberal/socialist coup

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    never waste a good pandemic

                    I pray there are enough smart voters in the swing states to stop the liberal/socialist coup
                    Me too!

                    Only you can prevent socialism.

                    My new favorite t-shirt

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      I dont really know where you are coming from. As i see it, everyday things are getting back to normal. My kids are back in school albeit not everyday but more than in the spring. I went to eat at a restaurant each of the past few weeks. Stay cautious and alert! Let the scientists watch the data and learn from their past mistakes and make adjustments.

                      Limit social interactions as much as possible especially with people you don't know. That is all anyone is really asking.
                      restaurant owners in ny are marching on cuommo and diblasio offices- why arent they open why havent they been open
                      you can see the numbers as well as anyone else- -this is a power play and the govt certainly took the power- the fact they killed their cities is just starting to dawn on them
                      the people who left ,can afford to live elsewhere and they are doing just that
                      drove through Litchfield yesterday- looked like scarsdale with all the NY plates

                      the people who are still there cant leave even if they want to- but those arent the people that bankroll your cities

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        So you are saying “if we behave” the nanny state tyranny might relax.
                        F That. Read the constitution. No pandemic exception.
                        Fight back to get back to normal.
                        The idea that we need to justify returning to normal is crap.
                        No more nanny state.
                        Do you wear a seatbelt in the car? Wear a shirt and shoes in the store? If you're a smoker, do you smoke around others? Do you refrain from driving if you've had a few cocktails? Purchase car insurance?

                        Horrible, awful nanny state that requires all those things to protect you and others. How can you go on living? Wearing a mask is just a bridge too far?

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          I dont really know where you are coming from. As i see it, everyday things are getting back to normal. My kids are back in school albeit not everyday but more than in the spring. I went to eat at a restaurant each of the past few weeks. Stay cautious and alert! Let the scientists watch the data and learn from their past mistakes and make adjustments.

                          Limit social interactions as much as possible especially with people you don't know. That is all anyone is really asking.
                          Nope that's way too much for the free-dumbers.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            So you are saying “if we behave” the nanny state tyranny might relax.
                            F That. Read the constitution. No pandemic exception.
                            Fight back to get back to normal.
                            The idea that we need to justify returning to normal is crap.
                            No more nanny state.
                            The government has a basic responsibility to society. The social contract, ie the constitution, of any government is to protect all members of the society from both internal and external forces that are detrimental to the society. If these conditions are not met anarchy will ensue. If one person is doing something unsafe that can effect multiple members of society negatively it is the DUTY of the government to restrict the actions of that individual. If you dont want to wear a mask do not venture into society.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Do you wear a seatbelt in the car? Wear a shirt and shoes in the store? If you're a smoker, do you smoke around others? Do you refrain from driving if you've had a few cocktails? Purchase car insurance?

                              Horrible, awful nanny state that requires all those things to protect you and others. How can you go on living? Wearing a mask is just a bridge too far?
                              Mask is a first step.
                              Fine I wear a mask.
                              Do you really believe there is not a “next step”?
                              What is a bridge to far?
                              Vaccine? Mandated?
                              Even after a vaccine you can’t take the mask off because vaccine is only ? 60% effective
                              Ok then what is next?
                              Micro chip to track people?
                              Police state like China for tracking people with facial recognition
                              Maybe an app on your phone to gain entry to a store based on your medical history

                              Where does it end? The virtue of the mask sounds great.
                              We want to protect each other.
                              There is a cost, it is not free.
                              There will be just one more thing, just one more thing.
                              There is no exit strategy because they don’t want it to ever end.
                              It is just a mask.
                              But what is next.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                The government has a basic responsibility to society. The social contract, ie the constitution, of any government is to protect all members of the society from both internal and external forces that are detrimental to the society. If these conditions are not met anarchy will ensue. If one person is doing something unsafe that can effect multiple members of society negatively it is the DUTY of the government to restrict the actions of that individual. If you dont want to wear a mask do not venture into society.
                                Absolutely wrong.
                                External forces. BS
                                Try enemies. That is people. Not a virus.
                                Government protect us from enemies foreign & domestic
                                Virus is not an enemy.
                                Health is not guaranteed like life, liberty, or pursuit of happiness
                                This is a fatal flaw of the DNC.
                                Health Care is a commodity not a right.
                                BTW - why will no one release a study of the effectiveness of mask. I have seen hundreds of studies on CV 19 but not one on mask and effectiveness. That makes me wonder. This is not April, by now we should have real studies.

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