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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Funny post. These muppets literally called players at multiple clubs after they had already accepted spot on teams.
    And.....? If you think that this start up is the only one actively recruiting you are uninformed. Once again, if you are confident in your clubs abilities and organization, then there is nothing for you to worry about. If you aren't living up to your promises, well, unfortunately it is a pay to play market and you are only providing a service to the customer (player) and they are free to leave for whatever reason they see fit.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      And.....? If you think that this start up is the only one actively recruiting you are uninformed. Once again, if you are confident in your clubs abilities and organization, then there is nothing for you to worry about. If you aren't living up to your promises, well, unfortunately it is a pay to play market and you are only providing a service to the customer (player) and they are free to leave for whatever reason they see fit.
      You are uninformed or at least imprecise: OYSA clubs generally don't recruit this way. DA/ECNL are different animals.

      OYSA clubs generally don't swipe each other's fields.

      SCA is unique and not in a good way.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        You are uninformed or at least imprecise: OYSA clubs generally don't recruit this way. DA/ECNL are different animals.

        OYSA clubs generally don't swipe each other's fields.

        SCA is unique and not in a good way.
        Horse manure.

        OYSA clubs often fight fiercely with each other for field access. There were some recent 04 recruiting shenanigans which raised eyebrows even in the no-holds-barred recruiting environment. And RTC/ODP has long been an opportunity to try and poach players.

        What SCA did, and did successfully, is identify players who were unhappy with their current club situation. In some cases families are paying twice--they signed up for club A, decided they didn't like the situation there, and moved on--still owing dues to their original club.

        Remember, coaches--unless you are providing free training, the players and the parents are your CUSTOMERS, not your employees. NONE of you is so unique or talented or special in your club offerings that families need put up with the usual BS. True, there are some snake oil salesmen out there, but generally they don't last very long. Sometimes the best thing for a kid is to move on. And 99% of talk of "loyalty" coming from club coaches is self-serving nonsense; many of whom view it as a one-way street.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          You are uninformed or at least imprecise: OYSA clubs generally don't recruit this way. DA/ECNL are different animals.

          OYSA clubs generally don't swipe each other's fields.

          SCA is unique and not in a good way.
          stop complaining, your nonsense has grown old. it just kills you that a new club is doing well. get over it. everybody recruits........and why do they? because it's how this gig works. the big old clubs need to do a better job, as clubs. until then, start-up clubs will show up. some will fail, and some will prosper. until the big old clubs do a better job, players and families will migrate away from them. that's just life.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            You are uninformed or at least imprecise: OYSA clubs generally don't recruit this way. DA/ECNL are different animals.

            OYSA clubs generally don't swipe each other's fields.

            SCA is unique and not in a good way.
            SCA isn't an OYSA club so they can do whatever they want.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              stop complaining, your nonsense has grown old. it just kills you that a new club is doing well. get over it. everybody recruits........and why do they? because it's how this gig works. the big old clubs need to do a better job, as clubs. until then, start-up clubs will show up. some will fail, and some will prosper. until the big old clubs do a better job, players and families will migrate away from them. that's just life.
              You are off the mark. Kind of ambivalent about these guys and not at one of the clubs that seems to have them on their hit list.

              But they do engage in rather tacky sales tactics and did swipe (using term loosely) one of Eastside's fields. Realize they are having a hard time fielding full teams at age, but it makes it hard to cheer for them when mean old OYSA leaves them no choice but to travel every weekend to Spokane and Bellingham to play the 50th toughest team in Washington.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Horse manure.

                OYSA clubs often fight fiercely with each other for field access. There were some recent 04 recruiting shenanigans which raised eyebrows even in the no-holds-barred recruiting environment. And RTC/ODP has long been an opportunity to try and poach players.

                What SCA did, and did successfully, is identify players who were unhappy with their current club situation. In some cases families are paying twice--they signed up for club A, decided they didn't like the situation there, and moved on--still owing dues to their original club.

                Remember, coaches--unless you are providing free training, the players and the parents are your CUSTOMERS, not your employees. NONE of you is so unique or talented or special in your club offerings that families need put up with the usual BS. True, there are some snake oil salesmen out there, but generally they don't last very long. Sometimes the best thing for a kid is to move on. And 99% of talk of "loyalty" coming from club coaches is self-serving nonsense; many of whom view it as a one-way street.

                I'd like to see more new clubs follow the model of Saints Academy. If I were closer, I would join them, coach there, get my entire family there. I love their mission and I wish them nothing but the best.

                The problem is you have a lot of snakes not willing to admit what they are. At least SCA isn't afraid to admit they're snakes. I can actually respect that. The rest are liars, cheats and car salesmen - doing the same hoping nobody figures them out.

                I watched a SCA Game at Nike Cup. No idea who he is or was, but I know a decent coach when I see one.

                But in the environment we live in, at least you have some snakes not afraid to say their snakes. I actually have less problem with that.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  You are off the mark. Kind of ambivalent about these guys and not at one of the clubs that seems to have them on their hit list.

                  But they do engage in rather tacky sales tactics and did swipe (using term loosely) one of Eastside's fields. Realize they are having a hard time fielding full teams at age, but it makes it hard to cheer for them when mean old OYSA leaves them no choice but to travel every weekend to Spokane and Bellingham to play the 50th toughest team in Washington.
                  actually, it's you that is off the mark. no travel every weekend to spokane or bellingham. in fact, about the same or less travel as compared to a oysa club team's travel. no difference.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    actually, it's you that is off the mark. no travel every weekend to spokane or bellingham. in fact, about the same or less travel as compared to a oysa club team's travel. no difference.
                    What age groups are they fielding teams? Who are they playing?

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      What age groups are they fielding teams? Who are they playing?
                      multiple age groups for both genders, and multiple teams/clubs from all over the portland metro area and washington.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        multiple age groups for both genders, and multiple teams/clubs from all over the portland metro area and washington.
                        Does that mean multiple age groups and both genders on one team?

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          multiple age groups for both genders, and multiple teams/clubs from all over the portland metro area and washington.
                          No need to be coy, what "league" what other clubs are participating?

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            actually, it's you that is off the mark. no travel every weekend to spokane or bellingham. in fact, about the same or less travel as compared to a oysa club team's travel. no difference.
                            Pspl teams will not be coming to Portland Adventist for meaningless games. Playing in that league is not even remotely close to oysa in terms of travel time or well matched competition. Additionally, OYSA did nothing to SCA other than stand by an association decision that was made in the spring. SCA coaches were well aware of this decision, and still tried manipulating their way around it by creating fictional websites and team names. They are lucky they have such a blind faith following as most savvy soccer families would have run for the hills the minute they were asked to falsely proclaim themselves as FC Huracan.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Pspl teams will not be coming to Portland Adventist for meaningless games. Playing in that league is not even remotely close to oysa in terms of travel time or well matched competition. Additionally, OYSA did nothing to SCA other than stand by an association decision that was made in the spring. SCA coaches were well aware of this decision, and still tried manipulating their way around it by creating fictional websites and team names. They are lucky they have such a blind faith following as most savvy soccer families would have run for the hills the minute they were asked to falsely proclaim themselves as FC Huracan.
                              you know nothing of what transpired. what a joke.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                No need to be coy, what "league" what other clubs are participating?
                                not coy at all. different age groups and genders are playing in different leagues and playing different clubs. and it's on a need to know basis, which doesn't apply to randos like you.

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