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Yes, and the answer to the question "where does the da publish it's scoring list" is "it doesn't".

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True, but that only lists by team. DA doesn't publish an overall leader board.

Yeah because they know that goal scoring at 12 years-old probably has a negative correlation with your prospects as an adult player.

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Yeah because they know that goal scoring at 12 years-old probably has a negative correlation with your prospects as an adult player.

Hey TS, Golden Boot stats keeper. Can you compile wish of goals scored by clubs, and who has the largest # of kids scoring goals? I know some people on here are all over keeping a list, but I think it would be Interesting to see which club is actually developing players. Not which club boots it long and knocks down kids to score. Thanks.

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Hey TS, Golden Boot stats keeper. Can you compile wish of goals scored by clubs, and who has the largest # of kids scoring goals? I know some people on here are all over keeping a list, but I think it would be Interesting to see which club is actually developing players. Not which club boots it long and knocks down kids to score. Thanks.

Actually, I am curious to.see that myself. Which teams have the most players scoring, goals scored, allowed differential. I know in the grand scheme of things, it Doesn't mean anything...other than how the team did this year, with this competition. Factor in the DA tournament as well, as the Oregon teams all played better teams there. Curious to see who has a more, well rounded team!

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Hey TS, Golden Boot stats keeper. Can you compile wish of goals scored by clubs, and who has the largest # of kids scoring goals? I know some people on here are all over keeping a list, but I think it would be Interesting to see which club is actually developing players. Not which club boots it long and knocks down kids to score. Thanks.

Here it is. The first number is how many different players have scored and the second number is total of number of goals scored per team:

Westside 14 44
Crossfire 12 55
Wash T 11 64
BSC 11 41
FC P 10 71
Capital 9 41
Eastside 6 8

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Hey TS, Golden Boot stats keeper. Can you compile wish of goals scored by clubs, and who has the largest # of kids scoring goals? I know some people on here are all over keeping a list, but I think it would be Interesting to see which club is actually developing players. Not which club boots it long and knocks down kids to score. Thanks.

You want to know which club is actually developing players? Who scores the most goals is not the right question. The better question is which club sends the most players to the Timbers Academy consistently. Developing is not scoring. Developing is preparing and sending them off to the next level. Like it or not, that is TA.

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You want to know which club is actually developing players? Who scores the most goals is not the right question. The better question is which club sends the most players to the Timbers Academy consistently. Developing is not scoring. Developing is preparing and sending them off to the next level. Like it or not, that is TA.

Timbers Academy moves the most players into Timbers Academy?

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Here it is. The first number is how many different players have scored and the second number is total of number of goals scored per team:

Westside 14 44
Crossfire 12 55
Wash T 11 64
BSC 11 41
FC P 10 71
Capital 9 41
Eastside 6 8

If you add up Westside's top three scorers, their sum total of goals (23) is still less than either AP or RF.

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If you add up Westside's top three scorers, their sum total of goals (23) is still less than either AP or RF.

Can you remove goals against Eastside? Break out each player against each team? Further break down by first versus second half? Grass versus turf? Cross reference in what field players have had the most goals scored against their while they were on the field? You know, go next level on this.

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You want to know which club is actually developing players? Who scores the most goals is not the right question. The better question is which club sends the most players to the Timbers Academy consistently. Developing is not scoring. Developing is preparing and sending them off to the next level. Like it or not, that is TA.

Knock it off A Hole. I asked for this past year, and even acknowledged that I was asking about the goals for the teams for this specific season. Also, your narrative is flawed with this age group. TA is a political game, and has zero credibility. You know this, but refuse to acknowledge this because you want to feel better about your choices. Now, at U15 and onward...We can talk. However, even then the results are skewed because where the player developed is always up for debate. (Although, Westside will usually claim them)

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Can you remove goals against Eastside? Break out each player against each team? Further break down by first versus second half? Grass versus turf? Cross reference in what field players have had the most goals scored against their while they were on the field? You know, go next level on this.

Everyone gets the same number of games against Eastside, so the first isn't necessary.

After that, the sort of data analysis you are thinking of quickly runs into sample-size limits, and becomes statistically meaningless.

We can, of course, deduce style of play from this--some clubs (FC most notably, but Crossfire and WashT as well) have talented forwards that can score in volume. The other four clubs, for the most part, do not (AJS comes close, but he reportedly has had some injury issues).

Having talented forwards that can score a lot, contrary to the snark of some, isn't necessarily a bad thing. If teams do nothing but boot it into space for big fast dudes to run onto, that's not an appealing style of soccer (and one that isn't good for development)--and it won't work against better teams. OTOH, a lot of FC's goals are scored on well-placed through balls from the midfield that catch defenders napping; and both RF and AP are excellent at timing runs to stay onside.

With all the departures, FC's coaching staff will have their work cut out for them. OTOH, Navy was a well-coached team last year--they were terrible in summer tournaments, finished in the bottom half of the table in fall, did better in spring--and made it to the State Cup semis. If Westside could field a competitive DA team with a pile of Samba kids and Copa benchwarmers from last year having significant roles, FC may do better than some critics here may expect.

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Everyone gets the same number of games against Eastside, so the first isn't necessary.

After that, the sort of data analysis you are thinking of quickly runs into sample-size limits, and becomes statistically meaningless.

We can, of course, deduce style of play from this--some clubs (FC most notably, but Crossfire and WashT as well) have talented forwards that can score in volume. The other four clubs, for the most part, do not (AJS comes close, but he reportedly has had some injury issues).

Having talented forwards that can score a lot, contrary to the snark of some, isn't necessarily a bad thing. If teams do nothing but boot it into space for big fast dudes to run onto, that's not an appealing style of soccer (and one that isn't good for development)--and it won't work against better teams. OTOH, a lot of FC's goals are scored on well-placed through balls from the midfield that catch defenders napping; and both RF and AP are excellent at timing runs to stay onside.

With all the departures, FC's coaching staff will have their work cut out for them. OTOH, Navy was a well-coached team last year--they were terrible in summer tournaments, finished in the bottom half of the table in fall, did better in spring--and made it to the State Cup semis. If Westside could field a competitive DA team with a pile of Samba kids and Copa benchwarmers from last year having significant roles, FC may do better than some critics here may expect.

Meaningless you say?

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Meaningless you say?

Advanced number crunching on a limited data set can quickly become meaningless.

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;2266019]You want to know which club is actually developing players? Who scores the most goals is not the right question. The better question is which club sends the most players to the Timbers Academy consistently. Developing is not scoring. Developing is preparing and sending them off to the next level. Like it or not, that is TA.[/QUOTE

That is a load of chit...at least half the roster last year was suspect at best and is as political as any other club out there. Using TA as a measuring stick of development is a joke...

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You want to know which club is actually developing players? Who scores the most goals is not the right question. The better question is which club sends the most players to the Timbers Academy consistently. Developing is not scoring. Developing is preparing and sending them off to the next level. Like it or not, that is TA.

The TA loses on average 25 players a year. These are players that quit because the environment sucks. It is not a learning environment, it is the survival of the fittest.