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It's diluted, yes, no power club to gravitate towards these days. Be patient the Portland Timbers will soon consume all ages and this mess will be cleaned up swiftly.

Not because any parents demand it, this is a parent free enterprise with the Timbers, they pay for it an players want it and parents sit quietly on the sidelines, a new era.

In some ways, this is how it works around the world--professional clubs operate academies for top local talents.

Of course, in the rest of the world:
* They receive training compensation
* There are multiple such clubs in a decent sized city. (Manchester, England is about the same size of Portland, and has TWO first-class clubs plus many smaller clubs in the lower division).

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With that said, explain this reality why the Crossfire Oregon boys teams are so rec/classic abundant as they get older? that is they play in the middle to bottom rung of the OYSA older leagues?

When in theory two big clubs (LOSC/W.L & Wilsv.) are sending their best of the best to them.

Why aren't they attracting better players as they get older? or does it even matter?

An interesting thing is the relationship between Crossfire and Southside.

Supposedly, SSC is a Crossfire feeder, but one Crossfire parent recently disparaged them after I said something nice about them.

But in the 05 age group, SSC 05B Azul is far better than any of the LOSC or WUSC teams, by a long way.

Of interest, SSC Azul has a large number of Hispanic players--but Crossfire's 05s appears to have far less. (If you look at the 2005 RTC Pool for the Portland West region-- https://portland-mp7static.mlsdigita...ls4.pdf--there are far fewer Latino players than I would expect to see, and of the ones on the list, almost all of them play for Westside. Perhaps certain non-TA clubs don't encourage RTC, so that explains the strong WT bias...). This comment shouldn't be construed as an accusation of anything untoward, but it is an intriguing observation.

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An interesting thing is the relationship between Crossfire and Southside.

Supposedly, SSC is a Crossfire feeder, but one Crossfire parent recently disparaged them after I said something nice about them. .

The only interesting thing is you aren't dialed into the reality that SSC is nearly bankrupt and on life support as a classic entity and couldn't continue to feed the affluent Crossfire club their few best players as it would accelerate the (SSC) death march as those player fees would go to Crossfire not SSC and make them nearly insolvent.

BTW SSC pulled out of the "Crossfire Oregon' thing nearly a year ago which gave them a chance to try and survive. Check back this time next year and see what remains of SSC.

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Great point. It is about the kids, and hopefully they are having fun. Sigh...DA is going to be shat show. Especially considering that there is no mandate on how many 05's make the team. So, a lot of 05's will be left out and those that make it, will play less. Sad that Oregon 05's became the designated fluffers.

The fact these clubs are weeding kids out in DA before the boys even hit puberty is alarming.

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The only interesting thing is you aren't dialed into the reality that SSC is nearly bankrupt and on life support as a classic entity and couldn't continue to feed the affluent Crossfire club their few best players as it would accelerate the (SSC) death march as those player fees would go to Crossfire not SSC and make them nearly insolvent.

BTW SSC pulled out of the "Crossfire Oregon' thing nearly a year ago which gave them a chance to try and survive. Check back this time next year and see what remains of SSC.

I wasn't aware that SSC had pulled out of Crossfire. (Last time I bothered to look, they were still in).

Heh--maybe they can merge with ADF. They have some good players and good coaches there. And as the "classic club of record" in Tigard, the combined entity probably could get preferential access to facilities of TTSD and Tigard Parks and Rec (though the latter doesn't appear to have any turf fields--Cook Park is a nice place, but only grass).

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The fact these clubs are weeding kids out in DA before the boys even hit puberty is alarming.

Agreed. If I had confidence that decisions were only being based on skill and technique, and not on physical development at that age, it wouldn't be so bad.

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Put them both in goal, you're still not stopping FC

FC's GK is the reason for their success. That player is outstanding and carries that team. Without him, they'd be toast.

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It is what it is. I will say though that this stat does not lie....
Goals against Fall/Spring (21-22 games)
Crossfire = 44
Westside = 24

This is not a case of a "better player" leaving to make a good team better. Just saying.

Can you stop posting this ridiculous and irrelevant stat? Westside back line can run, dribble and do circles around the Crossfire defenders. It's comparing apples to oranges.

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Agreed. If I had confidence that decisions were only being based on skill and technique, and not on physical development at that age, it wouldn't be so bad.

Hopefully no decisions based on how much you donate to the club.

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Can you stop posting this ridiculous and irrelevant stat? Westside back line can run, dribble and do circles around the Crossfire defenders. It's comparing apples to oranges.

Okay, I will give you a btter stat then. Crossfire's record against that epic Westside defensive back line....2-1-1. (Only loss coming this spring with starters missing.) Oh, and the last win in the Fall was without said goal keeper. It was played with two field players splitting time in goal. I know Copa Dad posted an excuse laden and shorter than normal recap about that game. Nowhere did I read about the Westside defenders running around anybody. Look, we all take pride in our kids, or their clubs but enough already. Crossfire lost a kid, and will move on. He's a good kid and will either do well at Westside or he will not. At the end of the day, none of these kids will amount to anything worthwhile in life, if we ruin them now with all of our pre-conceived notions of how much of a star they are at 11. Puberty is coming....and it's either going to be a blessing or b#tch for some. Hug your child. Tell them they make you proud. Tell them you love watching them compete...win or lose...and move the hell on with life. Because that's what this all needs to be about. Preparing our kids for life. Peace...

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Can you stop posting this ridiculous and irrelevant stat? Westside back line can run, dribble and do circles around the Crossfire defenders. It's comparing apples to oranges.

Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
It is what it is. I will say though that this stat does not lie....
Goals against Fall/Spring (21-22 games)
Crossfire = 44
Westside = 24

Apples and oranges are both fruits....

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Can you stop posting this ridiculous and irrelevant stat? Westside back line can run, dribble and do circles around the Crossfire defenders. It's comparing apples to oranges.

Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
It is what it is. I will say though that this stat does not lie....
Goals against Fall/Spring (21-22 games)
Crossfire = 44
Westside = 24

Copa parent getting nervous? Experiencing buyers remorse?

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FC's GK is the reason for their success. That player is outstanding and carries that team. Without him, they'd be toast.

Which one are you referring to ?
We've played them four times and each time they have swapped out the goalkeepers at halftime! They both seem to be good, but I am not sure which one you are referring to.

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Which one are you referring to ?
We've played them four times and each time they have swapped out the goalkeepers at halftime! They both seem to be good, but I am not sure which one you are referring to.

Clearly written by the parent of the 2nd goal keeper.

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Clearly written by the parent of the 2nd goal keeper.

Hahahaha! Referring to the starting GK, who is very tall, very quick, has man like hands, impeccable positioning, vision, anticipation and clearly a high soccer IQ. Not much gets by him. He is remarkable and will be truly fun to watch in the years to come. He deserves a lot of the credit for FC's success. They are average without him. With him, they set themselves a part.