Boys 05

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Timbers need competition in order to be held accountable. If there were two options, then both entities would be arriving to provide the best product and experience for our children. Timbers = Adidas. I think Nike needs to get involved have a Nike sponsored Academy team. FC and Crossfire are Nike Clubs. Something to think about.

Timbers' = Adidas because MLS is Adidas.

Thorns and NWSL are Nike.

Alliance clubs, mostly Adidas.

Other clubs, Nike.

It's all confusing.

Unless the shoe companies are putting up major coin, who cares?

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Clubs in OR, WA and Idaho need to step up for a boys ECNL northwest division.
Crossfire United doesn't have the infrastructure or staff on the boys side to make a go of a u15 and up DA. Perhaps Eastside Timbers given they will have a large very nice facility soon.

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If Nike were to fund a DA team that had most-expenses paid, like the Timbers Academy teams are, that would be cool.

Here's an interesting question: Since the US doesn't have training compensation, could a "free" academy try to enforce it via contract?

The problems I see with this:

1) Contracting with minors. Players in the academy will be minors; and training compensation typically covers contracts signed (and money earned) when a player becomes an adult. Can a player's parents bind their child to a training compensation arrangement?
2) Pay-to-pay clubs trying to do this. I don't mind TC as an alternative to club dues for subsidized training. OTOH, parents who are paying several thousands/year for club dues, travel, equipment shouldn't also have the club insisting on a chunk of money should the player become pro.

I suspect if TC comes to the US, it will have to be implemented by law--US Soccer isn't interested in the plight of youth clubs, and the MLS union certainly doesn't want its players to be liable for a dime to their youth teams.

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False equivalency.

Yes, if you don't look at the big picture.

If you insist on focusing solely on the minutia of the Timbers/Thorns OYSA sanctioned leagues/cups this will not allow you to see what's actually happening with inflated payrolls for ostensibly soccer bums at neighborhood non-profit clubs.

In terms of an equivalency, take off your blinders and see the big picture or continue to keep them on and hide from reality and continue to rebuke the 'Man'...

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Yes, if you don't look at the big picture.

If you insist on focusing solely on the minutia of the Timbers/Thorns OYSA sanctioned leagues/cups this will not allow you to see what's actually happening with inflated payrolls for ostensibly soccer bums at neighborhood non-profit clubs.

In terms of an equivalency, take off your blinders and see the big picture or continue to keep them on and hide from reality and continue to rebuke the 'Man'...

The clubs don't really make money off the top end teams that are subsidized and travel, the money is made o. The lemming parents that pay out the nose for oysa silver, bronze, bronze 2, and so on. The clubs that have multiple teams at each age that are considered "classic" are milking those moronic parents. And guess who pays for individual training on top of being on the red bronze third team... That is where the gravy is not at the top....

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Yes, if you don't look at the big picture.

If you insist on focusing solely on the minutia of the Timbers/Thorns OYSA sanctioned leagues/cups this will not allow you to see what's actually happening with inflated payrolls for ostensibly soccer bums at neighborhood non-profit clubs.

In terms of an equivalency, take off your blinders and see the big picture or continue to keep them on and hide from reality and continue to rebuke the 'Man'...

DOC salaries are publicly disclosed, families can change club if they think a DOC is overpaid (know some who left PCU when they saw published salaries), and boards fire DOCs if they don't think they are getting value (Eastside, FC, THUSC and Washington Timbers have all made changes at the top in recent years, in some cases more than once).

Timbers/OYSA = a couple of million bucks a year for 10-years. Sorry you aren't willing do or say anything about it.

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Your first Oregon 05 DA club. Only includes the 7 teams in the Oregon 05B USSDA league. Does not include Timbers Academy, or any OYSA teams.

(How the top OYSA teams interleave in here is an interesting question)

1. Crossfire (def FC 4-2)

Did well over summer, smoked FC Portland in the first league game. That gets them #1 after the first weekend.

2. Washington Timbers (idle)

Haven't played yet, but based on summer play, I'm putting them here.

3. Westside Timbers (def. BSC 3-1).

A generally poor summer season, followed by a coaching change, followed by a win in the first league game. The fact that they scored 3 goals against a BSC team that only allowed them one last summer with their TA players still around, is a good sign. Still, not entirely sold.

4. FC Portland (lost to Crossfire 4-2)

Defending state champs find themselves in the #4 spot. Whereas WT lost an efficient offense to the Timbers' Academy, FC has lost a stifling defense, and gives up four goals in the opener. Reportedly did poorly in the recent scrimmages, though I'm not including those results in these rankings.

5. Capital FC Timbers (idle).

Got spanked by FC up in the Crossfire Challenge, so they start here until they win.

6. BSC Oregon (lost to Westside 3-1).

Their fast-paced style of play from last year ought to translate well to the 11v11 game--but instead gave up 3 goals to a Westside team that has had trouble scoring them against good, fast defenses. Perhaps the kids who played up in 04 DA last year (and one assumes are doing so again) were really that important to BSC's state cup success--minus them, this was a team that was borderline premier.

7. Eastside Timbers (Idle).

Reportedly knocked off FC at the scrimmages a while back. Unfortunately, the voter in this poll gives that very little weight--and given that Eastside did not field a premier team in 05B last year, they start at the bottom until they prove otherwise. Head coach is a smart soccer mind, and one of the nicest guys you will ever meet--his unfortunate departure from Westside two years ago pissed a LOT of parents off, and understandably so.

Predictions for the weekend? Oysa and da...let's see how good your skills are

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Predictions for the weekend? Oysa and da...let's see how good your skills are

DA:

WT FC 6, BSC 1
FC 3, CFC 1
Crossfire 7, ET 0

OYSA Premier:

HSC 3, Copa 2
Navy 1, Red2 3
RVT 3, FCSC 2
ETFC 3, IFC 1
Cuervos 5, ADF 3

Confidence level? Not high in most cases.

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DA:

WT FC 6, BSC 1
FC 3, CFC 1
Crossfire 7, ET 0

Confidence level? Not high in most cases.

CrossFire 7 - 0 over Eastside! WOW!

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DA:

WT FC 6, BSC 1
FC 3, CFC 1
Crossfire 7, ET 0

OYSA Premier:

HSC 3, Copa 2
Navy 1, Red2 3
RVT 3, FCSC 2
ETFC 3, IFC 1
Cuervos 5, ADF 3

Confidence level? Not high in most cases.

That FCP vs CFC game will be a lt closer than that. I am calling a tie!
CFC has picked up 5 boys that were spread out across three different 4H clubs last spring which is giving them an entirely different look than they had.

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CrossFire 7 - 0 over Eastside! WOW!

Rumor has it ET is having difficulty even forming a team.

I hope that this match is more competitive, but given that Eastside's top OYSA team last year was in the bottom tier of Division I, this could get ugly.

I would very much like to be completely wrong on this particular pick.

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Rumor has it ET is having difficulty even forming a team.

I hope that this match is more competitive, but given that Eastside's top OYSA team last year was in the bottom tier of Division I, this could get ugly.

I would very much like to be completely wrong on this particular pick.

I hope that you are wrong too.
It is very unfortunate what has happened to the 2005 boys team there. The always feilded a competitive team until a couple of years ago when their age bracket changed. I've seen one of them on the Timbers DA, one on the FC Portland DA, one on the BSC DA and one on the Washington Timbers DA.

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DA:

WT FC 6, BSC 1
FC 3, CFC 1
Crossfire 7, ET 0

OYSA Premier:

HSC 3, Copa 2
Navy 1, Red2 3
RVT 3, FCSC 2
ETFC 3, IFC 1
Cuervos 5, ADF 3

Confidence level? Not high in most cases.

I like it, will check back on these line scores after the weekend and either give kudos or a burnt biscuit haha

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Rumor has it ET is having difficulty even forming a team.

I hope that this match is more competitive, but given that Eastside's top OYSA team last year was in the bottom tier of Division I, this could get ugly.

I would very much like to be completely wrong on this particular pick.

Don't hold your breath

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DA:

WT FC 6, BSC 1
FC 3, CFC 1
Crossfire 7, ET 0

OYSA Premier:

HSC 3, Copa 2
Navy 1, Red2 3
RVT 3, FCSC 2
ETFC 3, IFC 1
Cuervos 5, ADF 3

Confidence level? Not high in most cases.

I have a tough time seeing WT FC putting up 6 on BSC. Saw them both play this summer and seems like a pretty even matchup; assuming there are isn't much player movement down from the 04's.

Cuervos and ADF right of the gate will be a good one. Over under on yellows? How many IFC coaches get red cards?