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Rec soccer looks like it will get a big bump in enrollment from these whining parents.

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ECNL is not that expensive if you break it down to monthly payments. Think $900 or less per month. The fee increase shouldn't be much on top of that.

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"If you think back to your playing days, all you will remember is the skill building drills and individual work in the garage at all hours. I bet you don't remember any of the relationships or friends.

That is what this is all about. Individual development and the pain of hard work. That is what drives kids. The dream of being better.

That is why the greatest players don't have friends and we all should strive for this for our children."


It's a reflection on parenting skills if your kid wants to play with friends. This is competitive soccer.

Good analysis.

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ECNL is not that expensive if you break it down to monthly payments. Think $900 or less per month. The fee increase shouldn't be much on top of that.

So ECNL is raising their fees due to this? It's going to be even more expensive?

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So ECNL is raising their fees due to this? It's going to be even more expensive?

All speculation at this point

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it's about time.

Rec soccer looks like it will get a big bump in enrollment from these whining parents.

just take your kids over to hillside, or pcu. they're rec, and hillside's pretty good too.

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just take your kids over to hillside, or pcu. they're rec, and hillside's pretty good too.

If you're looking for rec, just look for the Timbers patch. Lots of good rec options in the Alliance, although they call them "premier". Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

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If you're looking for rec, just look for the Timbers patch. Lots of good rec options in the Alliance, although they call them "premier". Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

Those rec teams pretty much dominate on the boys side. Not sure what rock you live under.

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Those rec teams pretty much dominate on the boys side. Not sure what rock you live under.

Not so sure about that. A lot more non-Timbers teams won fall leagues than Timbers teams did. And that's with 7 Timbers clubs...

http://oysa-2015pttfall.affinitysocc...55DF&show=boys

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Yeah. Any kid that wants to play with friends or school mates are weak and soft. It is indicative of poor parenting. You should force them to leave all their friends every 12-18 months and make new ones.

If your kid wants to play soccer to have fun, it is a reflection of poor parenting skills. You are at fault.

They should realize that they are part of something bigger. The USMNT needs this change.

Anyone who plays for enjoyment or with friends should be removed from the team, forcibly if need be.

You have to realize you are part of something bigger and even though this won't benefit girls it will make every thing easier by not having a separate system for boys and girls.

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are all the local clubs going to transition to birth year next year? or are they letting the high school ages continue as is? Doesn't matter to me either way. I thought everything was changing all the way through, but have hard contradictions.

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are all the local clubs going to transition to birth year next year? or are they letting the high school ages continue as is? Doesn't matter to me either way. I thought everything was changing all the way through, but have hard contradictions.

Our club is changing over top to bottom. Don't like it but don't want to delay the inevitable, want to stay competitive out of state and it messes with the entire club if you try to keep a few teams together, leaving other players without a team.

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What team stays together year after year? Every team my kids have been on turns over 3-6 players every year. Plus, if you play at Crossfire feeder clubs, they do a massive reorg of teams at U13 as the clubs come together. All of this whining that teams have to break up must be from parents who have teams at rec, or just above rec, level. The top teams are always replacing players each year.

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Yeah. Any kid that wants to play with friends or school mates are weak and soft. It is indicative of poor parenting. You should force them to leave all their friends every 12-18 months and make new ones.

If your kid wants to play soccer to have fun, it is a reflection of poor parenting skills. You are at fault.

They should realize that they are part of something bigger. The USMNT needs this change.

Anyone who plays for enjoyment or with friends should be removed from the team, forcibly if need be.

This person gets it. This is not about fun and games. That is for rec. This is not about friends and having fun. That is for rec.

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If your kids wants to play on grade level with school friends or even have friends in soccer, they are part of the problem. This is about getting a college scholarship. Get them OUT.

We should all be honored to make strides to help the USMNT.

Anyone who questions this should be treated with great suspicion.

Do kids really want to play with friends? That is so asinine that I want to throw up.

Soccer should be about pushing yourself through to be the best possible soccer player you can possibly be. Developing relationships with other kids, or God forbid friendships, is distracting and therefore should be off the table.