OYSA convinces OPL to shut down their Fall league

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I am so glad we are all paying so much more for soccer so the for profit Timbers can profit off youth soccer.

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I am so glad we are all paying so much more for soccer so the for profit Timbers can profit off youth soccer.

Well, look at this way:
No one likes that an MLS team gets a cut, but if the Timbers organization hadn't bailed out OYSA, OYSA would likely have filed for bankruptcy.

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Well, look at this way:
No one likes that an MLS team gets a cut, but if the Timbers organization hadn't bailed out OYSA, OYSA would likely have filed for bankruptcy.

Had the OPL never been formed and attempted a coup de tat the Timbers wouldn't have been able to slide into the vacant OYSA and be able to gather the profits.

Familes with female players from LOSC, FC PDX & THUSC wouldn't be spending tens of thousands of dollars every year for travel to the western mountain states for divisional league play.

Non-Profit local clubs with very little infrastructure and rogue DOC's don't have the brains, muscle or backing to compete with an MLS franchise funded by Hank Paulson Sr.

The sad part is nothing positive has came out of these reckless decisions and the tone and culture of Oregon Youth Soccer is damaged, disjointed and discombobulated. Setting the state back 20 years on competitive and development level.

Does this punishment actually fit the crime committed by the OPL?

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Had the OPL never been formed and attempted a coup de tat the Timbers wouldn't have been able to slide into the vacant OYSA and be able to gather the profits.

Familes with female players from LOSC, FC PDX & THUSC wouldn't be spending tens of thousands of dollars every year for travel to the western mountain states for divisional league play.

Non-Profit local clubs with very little infrastructure and rogue DOC's don't have the brains, muscle or backing to compete with an MLS franchise funded by Hank Paulson Sr.

The sad part is nothing positive has came out of these reckless decisions and the tone and culture of Oregon Youth Soccer is damaged, disjointed and discombobulated. Setting the state back 20 years on competitive and development level.

Does this punishment actually fit the crime committed by the OPL?

It's interesting that you point to families from those 3 clubs. Families make choices. Those are big clubs. Lots of small clubs and other medium and large clubs lost female players to those clubs because of one "rogue DOC" in particular, who convinced families to leave their clubs and come into these clubs. I know this firsthand. I sat in on a few meetings, and I was also approached a few times by my own players and families.

The OPL never commited a "crime."

I supported the choice to form the OPL, and I still believe that it was necessary. Our club was one of the founding members. Not many people today were likely around back then to understand how out of line OYSA had become, and also so cash-rich with our membership funds that it had to quickly find ways to spend money; things like expansion of office space and new staff hires would eventually threaten its viability.

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It's interesting that you point to families from those 3 clubs. Families make choices. Those are big clubs. Lots of small clubs and other medium and large clubs lost female players to those clubs because of one "rogue DOC" in particular, who convinced families to leave their clubs and come into these clubs. I know this firsthand. I sat in on a few meetings, and I was also approached a few times by my own players and families.

The OPL never commited a "crime."

I supported the choice to form the OPL, and I still believe that it was necessary. Our club was one of the founding members. Not many people today were likely around back then to understand how out of line OYSA had become, and also so cash-rich with our membership funds that it had to quickly find ways to spend money; things like expansion of office space and new staff hires would eventually threaten its viability.

The Genesis behind all of this is stuff of folklore the we live in the reality, of the outcomes in present day.. is it fair that the OYSA has punished all of the opl clubs forcing them to sign up for leagues they never belonged in.. and then have their other teamsn not in the ECNL come back to their own State and pay exorbitant fees that feed the machine of the Timbers?

Being a member of one of the former opl clubs after the opl dissolved we were never asked dio you want to go back to the OSYA or how about the ecnl? the club on their own joined the ECNl without any real consent or sign off from the club members, we had no vote we had no say in the matter this was not a choice don't ever try to disguise something as a choice we didn't make it yes we had a choice to leave the club once they made their decision that is true.

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The Genesis behind all of this is stuff of folklore the we live in the reality, of the outcomes in present day.. is it fair that the OYSA has punished all of the opl clubs forcing them to sign up for leagues they never belonged in.. and then have their other teamsn not in the ECNL come back to their own State and pay exorbitant fees that feed the machine of the Timbers?

Being a member of one of the former opl clubs after the opl dissolved we were never asked dio you want to go back to the OSYA or how about the ecnl? the club on their own joined the ECNl without any real consent or sign off from the club members, we had no vote we had no say in the matter this was not a choice don't ever try to disguise something as a choice we didn't make it yes we had a choice to leave the club once they made their decision that is true.

Whoa Buddy, slow down.

I'm from one of the clubs kicked off the OPL board because we let our teams choose if they wanted to play in US Club Soccer or OYSA State Cup. We were told by our club that no club could be forced to do one or the other so the club let us choose. Did you attend your club's annual General Meeting and address the issue and demand a vote on the matter? You have a vote.

There were

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Whoa Buddy, slow down.

I'm from one of the clubs kicked off the OPL board because we let our teams choose if they wanted to play in US Club Soccer or OYSA State Cup. We were told by our club that no club could be forced to do one or the other so the club let us choose. Did you attend your club's annual General Meeting and address the issue and demand a vote on the matter? You have a vote.

There were

Our club never gave us a choice. OPL/OYSA league or state cup, it was never a question until the OPL dissolved and we defaulted into the OYSA league and OYSA/US Club post season choices. Same goes for the choice to join the ECNL league, we never had any say in that decision other than writing a check to travel or the option to play on a 2nd or 3rd team. The board isn't involved in Soccer decisions that is tasked to the paid professionals. Our club doesn't have a parent board running the show.

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Our club never gave us a choice. OPL/OYSA league or state cup, it was never a question until the OPL dissolved and we defaulted into the OYSA league and OYSA/US Club post season choices. Same goes for the choice to join the ECNL league, we never had any say in that decision other than writing a check to travel or the option to play on a 2nd or 3rd team. The board isn't involved in Soccer decisions that is tasked to the paid professionals. Our club doesn't have a parent board running the show.

Our families don't have any say in anything either. Our team joined the TA without any family input. The powers that be implemented the birth year change in a very haphazard way (some teams changed to birth year and others didn't) with no input. That's just the way it is.

The only power we parents have is the power of our checkbooks. If you don't like the direction your club is headed, leave. There are plenty of other clubs out there. But don't expect to have any say in any decisions any club is making. That's just foolish.

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Our families don't have any say in anything either. Our team joined the TA without any family input. The powers that be implemented the birth year change in a very haphazard way (some teams changed to birth year and others didn't) with no input. That's just the way it is.

The only power we parents have is the power of our checkbooks. If you don't like the direction your club is headed, leave. There are plenty of other clubs out there. But don't expect to have any say in any decisions any club is making. That's just foolish.

Huh, your club didn't join any different league you just changed your clubs nickname to Timbers. Our club changed names and joined another league which is much more severe than the club nickname.

US Soccer stuck in the new age group guidelines. Nothing to do with your club.

Nickname changes and US Soccer mandates for birth year changes would never cause a family to leave a club. That's just foolish.

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Our families don't have any say in anything either. Our team joined the TA without any family input. The powers that be implemented the birth year change in a very haphazard way (some teams changed to birth year and others didn't) with no input. That's just the way it is.

The only power we parents have is the power of our checkbooks. If you don't like the direction your club is headed, leave. There are plenty of other clubs out there. But don't expect to have any say in any decisions any club is making. That's just foolish.

It should never be the parents choice of what league or state cup that their kids/teams do. That is the coaches/DOC/clubs job. As a parent your job is to show up to games only and cheer players on in a positive way.

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It should never be the parents choice of what league or state cup that their kids/teams do. That is the coaches/DOC/clubs job. As a parent your job is to show up to games only and cheer players on in a positive way.

Amen!

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Huh, your club didn't join any different league you just changed your clubs nickname to Timbers. Our club changed names and joined another league which is much more severe than the club nickname.

US Soccer stuck in the new age group guidelines. Nothing to do with your club.

Nickname changes and US Soccer mandates for birth year changes would never cause a family to leave a club. That's just foolish.

You're right. You win. You have it way worse than us. Wait...is that really winning?

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Had the OPL never been formed and attempted a coup de tat the Timbers wouldn't have been able to slide into the vacant OYSA and be able to gather the profits.

Familes with female players from LOSC, FC PDX & THUSC wouldn't be spending tens of thousands of dollars every year for travel to the western mountain states for divisional league play.

Non-Profit local clubs with very little infrastructure and rogue DOC's don't have the brains, muscle or backing to compete with an MLS franchise funded by Hank Paulson Sr.

The sad part is nothing positive has came out of these reckless decisions and the tone and culture of Oregon Youth Soccer is damaged, disjointed and discombobulated. Setting the state back 20 years on competitive and development level.

Does this punishment actually fit the crime committed by the OPL?

The Timbers are the ones fracturing Oregon soccer. It was WST who initiated the original division. It we the same club who drove the second with the help of the Timbers.

They are nothing more than crooks fleecing youth soccer for their profit. I would love for the IRS to come in and audit the cooked books.

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The Timbers are the ones fracturing Oregon soccer. It was WST who initiated the original division. It we the same club who drove the second with the help of the Timbers.

They are nothing more than crooks fleecing youth soccer for their profit. I would love for the IRS to come in and audit the cooked books.

Actually history tells us that SSC, LOSC, THUSC & FC all voted out Westside/Eastside and PCU from the OPL right after those clubs decided to re-join the OYSA competition. Unlike the ECNL who doesn't black ball there membership who opt leave to the GDA. The ECNL instead begx the departing clubs to send their non GDA players back to the 2nd tier ECNL. Too bad the OPL boobs didn't understand diplomacy and common courtesy when other clubs memberships were making a choice of were they wanted to play, the OPL ilk decided it would be best to shoot themselves in the head and really make a statement about their values and direction. As for an audit of the the Pergrine LLC group good luck with that as the business is operated de facto by Hank Paulson the former head of the US Dept of treasury doubt his buddy the director of the IRS will look into Hanks trivial business efforts in little ole Oregon. I would love it if you actually had one clue about what really is happening.

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Had the OPL never been formed and attempted a coup de tat the Timbers wouldn't have been able to slide into the vacant OYSA and be able to gather the profits.

Familes with female players from LOSC, FC PDX & THUSC wouldn't be spending tens of thousands of dollars every year for travel to the western mountain states for divisional league play.

Non-Profit local clubs with very little infrastructure and rogue DOC's don't have the brains, muscle or backing to compete with an MLS franchise funded by Hank Paulson Sr.

The sad part is nothing positive has came out of these reckless decisions and the tone and culture of Oregon Youth Soccer is damaged, disjointed and discombobulated. Setting the state back 20 years on competitive and development level.

Does this punishment actually fit the crime committed by the OPL?

I would just like to thanks Westside and Eastside for their leadership.

Until they led they way, I did not realize that the job of employees and board members of non-profit soccer organizations is to create profit for the Timbers.

Until they led the way, I did not realize that the big guy always wins. Until they pointed it out, I did not realize that ECNL is the root of all evil in Oregon youth soccer.

Until they pointed it out, I did not realize how profession the Timbers are, how well run OYSA is, how accountable those who run youth soccer are.

Thanks again Westside and Eastside for your leadership; without you we wouldn't be nearly as united.

Long live the Timbers! May they Paulsons roll the $$ they made off of youth soccer into a fine NBA franchise. That will be grand!

Did I thank Westside and Eastside enough for their leadership?