New Discovery! TA coaches overly paranoid that his best players are leaving for ECNL

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You have no idea what you are talking about. Since when is playing for Crossfire Premier not competing? You seem to be writing challenged.

Sorry this is an Oregon forum, the Crossfire Premier are based out of the State Of Washginton.

You are geographically challenged.

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Using your logic, having the Timbers slap together a third team (Thorns Academy) simply makes the situation worse. However, once can still do these and do ODP so I don't think your argument holds water.

Why don't all the best Girls just play for the Thorns club team and go out and compete? This seems like a solution that will help girls in the area be part of a competitive club program and develop? Right now we have too may pretenders paying for travel without any club development. This will make the best of the ODP selections even better players.

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Why don't all the best Girls just play for the Thorns club team and go out and compete? This seems like a solution that will help girls in the area be part of a competitive club program and develop? Right now we have too may pretenders paying for travel without any club development. This will make the best of the ODP selections even better players.

Because the Thorns academy has no league to play in. Like it or not the ECNL is the top league for girls in the country. WST worked with the Timbers to create the thorns academy in response to the ECNL coming to Portland.

Play for the Thorns and do what? Play in the FWRL? Club teams can do that. Go to college showcases? Club teams can do that. Go to major tournaments like Surf? We all know they didn't get in but club teams did as did ECNL teams.

You repeat the pretender and crummy players in the ECNL. Have you been out to any of the games? Have you seen them play? Have you seen their competition? I have not seen one coach from WST or any other non ECNL club coach at any of these games yet we see these ignorant comments multiple times a day. You simPly don't know what you're talking about.

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Why don't all the best Girls just play for the Thorns club team and go out and compete? This seems like a solution that will help girls in the area be part of a competitive club program and develop? Right now we have too may pretenders paying for travel without any club development. This will make the best of the ODP selections even better players.

I think you answered your own question.
Even if the Thorns Academy is the only top team option for girls in Oregon AND all the best girls in Oregon try out AND all the best girls that try out are selected there is nowhere for them to play.
They are not an ECNL club (not a full club at all, in fact), so they cannot play in ECNL.
They could play in Oregon League play, but what is the point of that?
They could play in travel tournaments, but either:
A) The local tournaments are too infrequent to be much value. All practice and no play makes a dull day.
B) The team travels to tournaments all across the region on a regular basis, which would make it a MUCH more expensive proposition than ECNL.

Thorns Academy does not equal Timbers Academy. It's not their fault, it's that there's no interest in WLS, so there's no pot of money to dig into to find the next homegrown player, so there's no support for funding a girls national academy league.

ECNL, on the other hand, does have a league and provides competition around the region at a reasonable cost because the travel is reduced. There still is no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, but at least there is a rainbow.

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Sorry this is an Oregon forum, the Crossfire Premier are based out of the State Of Washginton.

You are geographically challenged.

No not geographically challenged as Washington is correct and Crossfire Premier is able to compete at any level. What was your point before you started slinging insults or did you have one?

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Here is the off topic response your created in your moment of of sheer lucid brillance.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Since when is playing for Crossfire Premier not competing? You seem to be writing challenged.

Not one person on the Oregon Talking Soccer forum, except but you brought up an opinion about playing for the Washington based Crossfire Premier. So the question is do you have any idea what your are talking about? or was your passage connected to another state and discussion. Hence geographically challenged and to wit now writing challenged.

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Because the Thorns academy has no league to play in. Like it or not the ECNL is the top league for girls in the country. WST worked with the Timbers to create the thorns academy in response to the ECNL coming to Portland.

Play for the Thorns and do what? Play in the FWRL? Club teams can do that. Go to college showcases? Club teams can do that. Go to major tournaments like Surf? We all know they didn't get in but club teams did as did ECNL teams.

You repeat the pretender and crummy players in the ECNL. Have you been out to any of the games? Have you seen them play? Have you seen their competition? I have not seen one coach from WST or any other non ECNL club coach at any of these games yet we see these ignorant comments multiple times a day. You simPly don't know what you're talking about.

This is the problem. Nail hit on head.

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1. THE LOCAL CLUBS DEVELOP THE PLAYERS

2. ODP/TIMBERS through USYS give the locally developed club players a PLATFORM to be identified by the NATIONAL team scouts and coaches. Basically an All-Star team.

Ask your local club why no girls of merit are coming from Oregon. Simple answer the dilution of talent across multiple clubs to keep coaches paid.

Now you understand the process go change the socialist anti-competitive nature within the local club landscape for girls.

The lastest attempt to field 2 girls clubs teams in the ECNL just helps the Girls stay down.

Yes, because getting the better athletes and better skilled players on a couple of teams and then playing good opposition is bad for development. But playing ODP is Good. You're an idiot.

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Can't you see ECNL is withering away? One and done.

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Yes, because getting the better athletes and better skilled players on a couple of teams and then playing good opposition is bad for development. But playing ODP is Good. You're an idiot.

You live in a dream world if you think any one or two clubs in Oregon Girls soccer are getting the better players from the state on their teams. We have no such clubs/teams in this category you dream about.... Your imagination is about the only thing being developed.

ODP is not a club team. It's a player identification program that promotes players from a state level to regional level with a final destination the US National team

ODP is the vehicle for the best of the best to become national team players.

It would be far better to skip playing for the US National team when you have average club team you could play on year round.

Sound Logic.

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ODP was the past. Ecnl is the now. Most of the younger players on the national team played Ecnl.

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ODP was the past. Ecnl is the now. Most of the younger players on the national team played Ecnl.

If this is your opinion or actually a trend now. Why doesn't Oregon put together one special team of the best players from Oregon to try and compete in this League (ECNL)?

Worth a try.

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If this is your opinion or actually a trend now. Why doesn't Oregon put together one special team of the best players from Oregon to try and compete in this League (ECNL)?

Worth a try.

Wake up. The top clubs have done just that. Timbers don't like it and are fighting it tooth and nail. Just another example of Timbers dysfunction.

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Wake up. The top clubs have done just that. Timbers don't like it and are fighting it tooth and nail. Just another example of Timbers dysfunction.

That is the most obviously correct statement posted on this forum!

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Here is the off topic response your created in your moment of of sheer lucid brillance.




Not one person on the Oregon Talking Soccer forum, except but you brought up an opinion about playing for the Washington based Crossfire Premier. So the question is do you have any idea what your are talking about? or was your passage connected to another state and discussion. Hence geographically challenged and to wit now writing challenged.

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Sorry but I won't go away. We live in Oregon and I have had 5 kids come up through Oregon competitive soccer which is in the worst shape ever currently for girls. Oregon is screwing over its best female players by diluting the talent to a dismal level. This means for those who really want to play at the top level, not just get annihilated by other top teams, you must be willing to go play up north. This was our choice but only because the level of play on the so called Oregon ECNL teams is pathetic and does not meet the mark. If Oregon could consolidate then it would be a different story. I am a fan of a academy or ODP type program that will consolidate much of the talent at each age group.