ECNL basically killed the OPL

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I don't think anyone said they shouldn't accept their invite to ENCL. They were just simply stating that for top competition in local leagues it hurts the OPL's top end, which is why it might make sense for clubs who are undecided which league to go to (if they are a top end fringe club, maybe BSC for example) it might be better for their competition level to play in OYSA instead.

Pretty sure they are OYSA already as of last year. But if they are undecided they might have a shot at going to the NPL champships if they go OPL.

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ECNL is no different than the DA. All boy teams are B teams to the DA. ECNL is basically the same. They also play in different leagues.

I don't think you can equate ECNL to the DA. In the DA, the talent comes from ALL of Oregon, SW Wa, and they reserve some roster spots from other states. The DA also combines 2 ages. For example, the U16 DA team this year will likely be made up (estimate only) of 10-14 98's, 5-7 99's, probably 1-2 2000's, and a likely a few roster spots from other states. Truthfully, most Club A teams will not even lose a player to the DA. Some may lose 1 or 2. In very rare circumstances, a team might lose more. You are not left with B teams. 95% of the teams are completely left in tact or maybe lose 1/2.

In the case of ECNL, you essentially have the same club team BECOMING the ECNL team, with a few adders from other clubs. That leaves the B team, the new A team. In addition, you have 2 ECNL teams, a Thorns Academy, creating further dilution. Even further diluting, you have an ECNL team at every age group. For example, if the DA had a team for 98's, and a separate team for 99's, that would take more talent away from the club teams because there are more spots.

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I don't think you can equate ECNL to the DA. In the DA, the talent comes from ALL of Oregon, SW Wa, and they reserve some roster spots from other states. The DA also combines 2 ages. For example, the U16 DA team this year will likely be made up (estimate only) of 10-14 98's, 5-7 99's, probably 1-2 2000's, and a likely a few roster spots from other states. Truthfully, most Club A teams will not even lose a player to the DA. Some may lose 1 or 2. In very rare circumstances, a team might lose more. You are not left with B teams. 95% of the teams are completely left in tact or maybe lose 1/2.

In the case of ECNL, you essentially have the same club team BECOMING the ECNL team, with a few adders from other clubs. That leaves the B team, the new A team. In addition, you have 2 ECNL teams, a Thorns Academy, creating further dilution. Even further diluting, you have an ECNL team at every age group. For example, if the DA had a team for 98's, and a separate team for 99's, that would take more talent away from the club teams because there are more spots.

You would think since the Timbers academy has been around for a while it would be pumping kids into the pro's by now.
The thorns academy is only for one age group and they took younger girls to fill out that team so less dilution.
What about all the girls and boys left on b teams or at smaller clubs? are you saying they don't really matter since they can't play at the DA or ECNL?

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In the case of ECNL, you essentially have the same club team BECOMING the ECNL team, with a few adders from other clubs.

What? No one changed clubs for the chance to join ECNL? But isn't ECNL the greatest thing in soccer ever? What happened?

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are you saying they don't really matter since they can't play at the DA or ECNL?

that's what all the ELITE folks are saying, and they always have said that.

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What? No one changed clubs for the chance to join ECNL? But isn't ECNL the greatest thing in soccer ever? What happened?

Odd, we had a over 1/3 of our roster change at U14 and they only had about 2 weeks to get the announcements out before tryouts.

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Isn't ECNL just going to let the smaller clubs shine a little more? It will simply make the league more competitive.

Exactly. Remove the best 30 players from an age group and watch the parity increase. Better for everyone. Best players get the challenge they need and the next level get more equal competition. Win win I would say.

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You misread. The ECNL teams, meaning Thusc and CO and FC, did poorly in NWCL over the past few years. If they couldn't compete, how will the B teams compete. No you get it?

THUSC has 6 NWCL championships. How many does your club have?

None is the answer.

Before you get bitchy about THUSC bragging or whatever know that you used NWCL as an example.

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you are joking right?

THUSC has 6 NWCL championships. How many does your club have?

None is the answer.

Before you get bitchy about THUSC bragging or whatever know that you used NWCL as an example.

that is funny. how many region iv champions, semi finalist, quater finalist? how many professionals or on the national team? if all you can do it toot your horn because of 1 teams accomplishments.. its laughable. btw.. it is the best recruited team in oregon... cause that is all you do... is recruit... give false promises and slam all other clubs... you club has no class and no leadership... you doc is a joke and it is a well know fact that he is not respected by his peers.

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that is funny. how many region iv champions, semi finalist, quater finalist? how many professionals or on the national team? if all you can do it toot your horn because of 1 teams accomplishments.. its laughable. btw.. it is the best recruited team in oregon... cause that is all you do... is recruit... give false promises and slam all other clubs... you club has no class and no leadership... you doc is a joke and it is a well know fact that he is not respected by his peers.

And for all that, it's still a club that is head and shoulders above any TA club in the state. Imagine that!

In the TA "Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand"

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that is funny. how many region iv champions, semi finalist, quater finalist? how many professionals or on the national team? if all you can do it toot your horn because of 1 teams accomplishments.. its laughable. btw.. it is the best recruited team in oregon... cause that is all you do... is recruit... give false promises and slam all other clubs... you club has no class and no leadership... you doc is a joke and it is a well know fact that he is not respected by his peers.

I detest THUSC and I still say your comments are asinine. Name your DD's club if they are so great!

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ECNL Year 5 brings more successes, lessons
Article Written by Will Parchman
Published: July 29, 2014


...The story of ECNL’s fifth year is one of continued transformation. By Noftsinger’s own admission, the ECNL is now out of its “toddler phase” and has permanently stashed the startup moniker. The league can now be more selective about the clubs it chooses to admit, which became more obvious than ever when the league expelled its first ever club this past year.

The league moves into its sixth season this fall after recently completing its most expansive year yet. In addition to its five national events from San Diego to New Jersey, the league carried its national playoffs for U15-U17 sides and finals for U14 and U18 sides in Seattle in June, and the last round of finals wrapped in Richmond, Virginia in July. With Richmond becoming an established ending point for each season, Noftsinger said Seattle remains in the picture for future playoff hosting duties as well.

As the ECNL becomes exponentially more economically and culturally viable and the market becomes flooded with the league’s growing cachet, opportunities are beginning to fly at the league from every corner. The ECNL is reaching a point where it’s begun to examine cost-cutting measures to lessen the burden on families. Over its first five years, the ECNL was slow to bring on big money sponsors to allow itself to become established on firmer ground.

Now that the league has moved on from the spongier surface of its early years, Noftsinger feels comfortable exploring those big name sponsorship avenues.

“There are some good ones,” Noftsinger said. “There’s stuff that’s in the pipeline, and it’s a matter of, I’m not just going to take somebody’s money just to take the money. It needs to mean something, and it needs to align with what the ECNL is trying to do.”

The U.S. Soccer-run Development Academy is making tangible strides to eliminate cost as well, and rumors continue to swirl that soon the league will mandate free-of-cost programs for all its member clubs. Noftsinger was explicit that comparing the ECNL to the DA is “apples to oranges,” but there are some similarities in the way both are going about whittling at the edges of cost for players and families.

“I think all these clubs, they may not formally say that everything’s free, but they do a really good job of, should there be a kid that wants to play, let’s find a way to get them that opportunity,” Noftsinger said.

The league is also on the cusp of sending its first wave of youth players into the full senior national team setup. Morgan Brian’s class was involved with the ECNL U23 league, but its first U14-U18 players are beginning to knock on the door. Two years ago, half the players called into the U20 WNT were involved in the ECNL. This past camp, that number skyrocketed to 19 of 20. Standouts like Taylor Racioppi, Cari Roccaro and Mallory Pugh are closing in on those opportunities.

It hasn’t happened yet, but the inevitable impact of the ECNL on the U.S. women’s national team is almost here. The next cycle of fresh faces will largely be ECNL alums. Though it’ll take years, the trend is impossible to miss: players with ECNL backgrounds are slowly coming to dominate the U.S. women’s soccer landscape. The league says 84 percent of its players move on to play college soccer at the next level.

That gives the ECNL a stake in just about every level of women’s soccer in the U.S. in the coming years.

“Our relationship with U.S. Soccer is outstanding,” Noftsinger said. “Sometimes I have to pinch myself, because the relationship we have with them, it’s a strong open relationship. It’s full of support. We would never claim to be the national team, we would never claim to be U.S. Soccer, we’re simply here to support our badge and to help develop the game, grow the game and get players wearing that badge that represent our country on the world stage.”

Lessons come hard and fast every year for the bourgeoning girls soccer league. The market saturation in certain parts of the country isn’t where the league would prefer, for instance. But the league is undeniably bullish on its progress.

“This league, it’s not about five years,” Noftsinger said. “It’s about the next 50 years for these kids.”

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ECNL Year 5 brings more successes, lessons
Article Written by Will Parchman
Published: July 29, 2014


...The story of ECNL’s fifth year is one of continued transformation. By Noftsinger’s own admission, the ECNL is now out of its “toddler phase” and has permanently stashed the startup moniker. The league can now be more selective about the clubs it chooses to admit, which became more obvious than ever when the league expelled its first ever club this past year.

The league moves into its sixth season this fall after recently completing its most expansive year yet. In addition to its five national events from San Diego to New Jersey, the league carried its national playoffs for U15-U17 sides and finals for U14 and U18 sides in Seattle in June, and the last round of finals wrapped in Richmond, Virginia in July. With Richmond becoming an established ending point for each season, Noftsinger said Seattle remains in the picture for future playoff hosting duties as well.

As the ECNL becomes exponentially more economically and culturally viable and the market becomes flooded with the league’s growing cachet, opportunities are beginning to fly at the league from every corner. The ECNL is reaching a point where it’s begun to examine cost-cutting measures to lessen the burden on families. Over its first five years, the ECNL was slow to bring on big money sponsors to allow itself to become established on firmer ground.

Now that the league has moved on from the spongier surface of its early years, Noftsinger feels comfortable exploring those big name sponsorship avenues.

“There are some good ones,” Noftsinger said. “There’s stuff that’s in the pipeline, and it’s a matter of, I’m not just going to take somebody’s money just to take the money. It needs to mean something, and it needs to align with what the ECNL is trying to do.”

The U.S. Soccer-run Development Academy is making tangible strides to eliminate cost as well, and rumors continue to swirl that soon the league will mandate free-of-cost programs for all its member clubs. Noftsinger was explicit that comparing the ECNL to the DA is “apples to oranges,” but there are some similarities in the way both are going about whittling at the edges of cost for players and families.

“I think all these clubs, they may not formally say that everything’s free, but they do a really good job of, should there be a kid that wants to play, let’s find a way to get them that opportunity,” Noftsinger said.

The league is also on the cusp of sending its first wave of youth players into the full senior national team setup. Morgan Brian’s class was involved with the ECNL U23 league, but its first U14-U18 players are beginning to knock on the door. Two years ago, half the players called into the U20 WNT were involved in the ECNL. This past camp, that number skyrocketed to 19 of 20. Standouts like Taylor Racioppi, Cari Roccaro and Mallory Pugh are closing in on those opportunities.

It hasn’t happened yet, but the inevitable impact of the ECNL on the U.S. women’s national team is almost here. The next cycle of fresh faces will largely be ECNL alums. Though it’ll take years, the trend is impossible to miss: players with ECNL backgrounds are slowly coming to dominate the U.S. women’s soccer landscape. The league says 84 percent of its players move on to play college soccer at the next level.

That gives the ECNL a stake in just about every level of women’s soccer in the U.S. in the coming years.

“Our relationship with U.S. Soccer is outstanding,” Noftsinger said. “Sometimes I have to pinch myself, because the relationship we have with them, it’s a strong open relationship. It’s full of support. We would never claim to be the national team, we would never claim to be U.S. Soccer, we’re simply here to support our badge and to help develop the game, grow the game and get players wearing that badge that represent our country on the world stage.”

Lessons come hard and fast every year for the bourgeoning girls soccer league. The market saturation in certain parts of the country isn’t where the league would prefer, for instance. But the league is undeniably bullish on its progress.

“This league, it’s not about five years,” Noftsinger said. “It’s about the next 50 years for these kids.”

Please post this more. It makes you look even more desperate.

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Please post this more. It makes you look even more desperate.

Is this really all you can muster for a response? The article is relevant to all these anti ECNL threads. You people are desperate and will say anything!

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Please post this more. It makes you look even more desperate.

Thusc and fc need to recruit to even have a chance. That's why their parents continue to try and sell snake oil.