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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Timbers have some strong players. Won't be surprised by end of year this team is behind them in development.
    I dont think it will happen. This team actually spend a whole practice working on footskills with a trainer. The four years we were at Timbers, we hardly spent any time on footskills. They talked about it, but it never happened. They spend all of their time on tactical issues and winning. Development was supposed to be done on your own time. So i dont see the Timbers developing better. They just have the big name and just pull more players. But lets not kid ourseleves any of these big clubs put development over winning.

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      Does this club pay its coaches?

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Does this club pay its coaches?
        A handful of pesos and lunch once a week at Cici's.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          I dont think it will happen. This team actually spend a whole practice working on footskills with a trainer. The four years we were at Timbers, we hardly spent any time on footskills. They talked about it, but it never happened. They spend all of their time on tactical issues and winning. Development was supposed to be done on your own time. So i dont see the Timbers developing better. They just have the big name and just pull more players. But lets not kid ourseleves any of these big clubs put development over winning.
          I think the Timbers coach at this age is stronger and has stronger players but, the parents will need to learn that it takes more then two practices a week. Appears that many people who watch this team don't feel that these coaches are developing all players either. Don't think winning at this age means development.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            I think the Timbers coach at this age is stronger and has stronger players but, the parents will need to learn that it takes more then two practices a week. Appears that many people who watch this team don't feel that these coaches are developing all players either. Don't think winning at this age means development.
            Exactly! That Pacific team does two days a week and another day just doing footskills. The same thing the Timbers promise but never deliver. In fact, timbers then offer a $150.00 extra practice for footskills. Which most players can't make because they are not built around any team schedules.

            The Timbers have pockets of greatness, usually a good age or a good coach. But as a club, they do not do anything special.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Exactly! That Pacific team does two days a week and another day just doing footskills. The same thing the Timbers promise but never deliver. In fact, timbers then offer a $150.00 extra practice for footskills. Which most players can't make because they are not built around any team schedules.

              The Timbers have pockets of greatness, usually a good age or a good coach. But as a club, they do not do anything special.
              WT_FC isn't a "club" in the normal sense of the word. It's simply a loose collection of teams with little or nothing in common except for the jerseys. The DoCs like it that way because it's easy to blame an individual coach for at team's poor performance and not have to worry about accountability at the core.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Exactly! That Pacific team does two days a week and another day just doing footskills. The same thing the Timbers promise but never deliver. In fact, timbers then offer a $150.00 extra practice for footskills. Which most players can't make because they are not built around any team schedules.

                The Timbers have pockets of greatness, usually a good age or a good coach. But as a club, they do not do anything special.
                Except for timbers are better at every age group, both sexes, every year. But other than that, you might be on to something.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Exactly! That Pacific team does two days a week and another day just doing footskills. The same thing the Timbers promise but never deliver. In fact, timbers then offer a $150.00 extra practice for footskills. Which most players can't make because they are not built around any team schedules.

                  The Timbers have pockets of greatness, usually a good age or a good coach. But as a club, they do not do anything special.
                  Don't think Pacific is the answer either as many girls are behind on foot skills too if you watch. Trapping and passing is about it for many. It takes practice outside of the team practices to develop skills. Many kids just don't have the desire to put the effort in . Pacific is better at this age cause the coaches focus on placing kids in one position for most of time and in the long run this will become a disadvantage to many of those players. Both clubs have really no development principles in place. If you have a desire for your DD to play beyond high school you will need to look elsewhere.

                  If you had to choose between two programs I would pick the Timbers coach because he done a little more the read a few books. I guess that is why the stronger girls stayed at Timbers when they had a chance to go to Pacific this year. Pacific coaches are not bad but, they don't have knowledge level of the Timbers coach.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Except for timbers are better at every age group, both sexes, every year. But other than that, you might be on to something.
                    Better than what? Maybe the local rec clubs...

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Except for timbers are better at every age group, both sexes, every year. But other than that, you might be on to something.
                      They get the numbers. But they are not even the best in Clark County at all ages. Pacific 98's just destroyed the Timbers Red, FCSC has a few teams that kill the Timbers.
                      They are the largest club but they do not perform like it. They are not very organized.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        I was at one of the games up north when they played a Seattle team and got throttled like 3-0....the other team had restrictions the entire second half and still held the ball more than pacific....watching the game it could have been 10-0 easily but they chose not to lay the wood to pacific....difference in coaching styles
                        You are a liar - why would you be at a game your DD wasn't playing in? The game was close, the Revolution got out hustled and outplayed, but the styles were similar. They also gave up an own goal on a corner and another bad luck one. Could have easily been 1-0.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Except for timbers are better at every age group, both sexes, every year. But other than that, you might be on to something.
                          No U14 Red girls and No U18 Red girls--how can that be? Look at the coaching list. Some good coaches for the reds, but then it drops off to parent coaches after that.

                          Which ages are the Timbers good at? Girls had a huge fall out this year. With the numbers they get, they could do so much better.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            I'm sure they are wonderful. However the fact remains that quality coaches know better than to drop 25 goals on a clearly lesser opponent. Quality coaches have tactics to avoid letting it get that out of hand. My kid played in some uneven games. Coach put keeper as forward and rotated inexperienced girls in as keeper. Best goal scorers happily sat while bench players got extra time. Girls were told 5 passes then shoot with your non dominant foot...drop everything to keeper and play out of the back (great skill building and gives the other team some chances to score if you mess up), etc.

                            Personally I wouldn't be giving media interviews if my kid's coach let a 25-0 game happen. I would be too embarrassed. And just remember when you get that reputation other teams take notice...and there's a REAL superstar team out there just waiting to lay 25 goals on you.
                            What are you talking about? The coaches did EXACTLY what you suggested to limit the score. It was a vastly inferior team that lost almost as badly to the other teams in the tournament. The other coach should be apologizing for putting that team in a GOLD bracket. Or Clash at the Border director should be.

                            And as for your dropping to keeper quote...that one really makes me laugh. There were ZERO other teams at U10 that would even consider moving the ball back to the keeper other than this Revolution team - and yes, that includes all of the Timbers teams. Revolution were the ONLY one to do it consistently and effectively. It drives the parents crazy but the coaches taught it early. Very fun to watch and actually much more similar to what is being taught at big Seattle clubs.

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                              U10?

                              Really? Arguing about 9year old girls soccer?

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                What are you talking about? The coaches did EXACTLY what you suggested to limit the score. It was a vastly inferior team that lost almost as badly to the other teams in the tournament. The other coach should be apologizing for putting that team in a GOLD bracket. Or Clash at the Border director should be.

                                And as for your dropping to keeper quote...that one really makes me laugh. There were ZERO other teams at U10 that would even consider moving the ball back to the keeper other than this Revolution team - and yes, that includes all of the Timbers teams. Revolution were the ONLY one to do it consistently and effectively. It drives the parents crazy but the coaches taught it early. Very fun to watch and actually much more similar to what is being taught at big Seattle clubs.
                                Did they take players off the field until the play became more even? Didn't think so...

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