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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNobody cares.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostHow many does each school have committed to playing in college?
NCAA NLI Signing Dates for Prospective Student-Athletes Enrolling 2014-15 take place between 2/1/2014 and 8/01/2014.
A player can sign the NLI and then later be rejected by the college for academic/testing noncompliance.
So why ask the question now?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYour question is a bit premature for the Class of 2014. Verbal commitments mean squat as they are not binding by either the athlete or the college.
NCAA NLI Signing Dates for Prospective Student-Athletes Enrolling 2014-15 take place between 2/1/2014 and 8/01/2014.
A player can sign the NLI and then later be rejected by the college for academic/testing noncompliance.
So why ask the question now?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostBecause getting a verbal offer is a testament that 1)they are looking to play college soccer and 2) they are of college soccer ability. I completely understand the verbal, not binding, blah, blah, blah part. And 2016's are getting offers now, as have 2015's, and certainly 2014's have. Of course if you are a 2014 and don't have an offer, that's a pretty telling statement of what the colleges think of you.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWe have two players that are seniors this year and neither have even made an attempt to put themselves out there for a college to know they are interested in playing at that level. Both are starters on our club team and their HS team, have multiple years of ODP and hold over camp. Just cause they dont have an offer doesnt mean squat. Your talking out your arse again. Both have received the standard letters "We'd love to have you play at our school, please send us information about yourself thru our website and call to schedule a visit" and so has every girl that has registered thru Captain U and other sites of the likes.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIt was just a way to measure the relative quality. Just like we do when comparing the number of high club players on a team. So, is it difficult to walk around all day with a telephone pole shoved up your ass? Go beat the wife, she's used to it.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYour question is a bit premature for the Class of 2014. Verbal commitments mean squat as they are not binding by either the athlete or the college.
NCAA NLI Signing Dates for Prospective Student-Athletes Enrolling 2014-15 take place between 2/1/2014 and 8/01/2014.
A player can sign the NLI and then later be rejected by the college for academic/testing noncompliance.
So why ask the question now?
D2 and D3 (no athletic scholarships) and NAIA schools certainly remain an option.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWe have two players that are seniors this year and neither have even made an attempt to put themselves out there for a college to know they are interested in playing at that level. Both are starters on our club team and their HS team, have multiple years of ODP and hold over camp. Just cause they dont have an offer doesnt mean squat. Your talking out your arse again. Both have received the standard letters "We'd love to have you play at our school, please send us information about yourself thru our website and call to schedule a visit" and so has every girl that has registered thru Captain U and other sites of the likes.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYou must be from Vantucky aren't you ???
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThey had the most club players. You don't need good soccer you just need players with a little skill. After all its just high school. And in all fairness they had more than one play. Ben would also tell the defenders to boot the ball straight down the field.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSorry to burst your bubble but Ben never told his defenders to boot the ball straight down the field. Or to boot the ball anywhere for that matter. Why so negative towards them? I know it's been a few weeks since the game but I'm just getting caught up. You've probably forgotten by now anyway.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostBecause getting a verbal offer is a testament that 1)they are looking to play college soccer and 2) they are of college soccer ability. I completely understand the verbal, not binding, blah, blah, blah part. And 2016's are getting offers now, as have 2015's, and certainly 2014's have. Of course if you are a 2014 and don't have an offer, that's a pretty telling statement of what the colleges think of you.
I've been through the process so many times now, and no, I do not have anyone graduating in 2014. For what its worth, I have coached and provided references for my players. More importantly, I know the recruitment process well, as my kids received a 'tonne' of letters, postcards, and small gifts from schools, alums including former soccer players, (no recruiters); and later, they were given even more interest through verbal offers from recruiters and schools, because of excellent GPAs, test scores, a good mix of AP coursework, and tons of volunteerism. My kids did the ODP thing, were on successful club teams, and had parents that both played collegiate sports. I did work with several Class of 2012 and 2013, who waited until senior year to communicate with recruiters. Too many assumptions made by you!
Verbal offers and commitments are a dime a dozen. Typically, college coaches know one another and share info about who has verbally committed. From the player's parent's perspective and likely his/her coach/club, the verbal offer makes for good boasting material, especially on forums and club/team web sites.
Here are some of the typical issues involved with verbal commitments.
1. A student athlete verbally commits prior to official signing with a school and then does the following:
a. Ceases to look into or consider other schools nearer the signing period.
b. Sees his/her skills and quality of play diminish over time, thus drawing disinterest from the school.
c. The recruiter no longer work for the school (Now what? You start all over and it might be too late).
d. Any verbal offer of a scholarship is moot.
e. No written offer arrives in the player's mail box.
f. After July 1st, going into senior year through graduation or possibly later, the student athlete does not meet NCCA, NAIA, or NJCAA testing requirements for play time, and any available aid.
g. The student athlete does not meet the minimum requirements to gain admission to the college or university. The soccer program might offer you something, but in the end school admissions determines acceptance.
h. The student athlete sustains an injury or injuires over time, e.g., torn acl/pcl/ mcl, concussion. I watched both an OSU and ASU coach walk away from games after being there to observe two players and then not offer anything to those players. They have to fit their needs first and might not want to take chances later.
i., k. Most importantly, student athletes fail to ask the recruiter if the verbal commitment is binding between the two of them and the school. Most importantly, no matter when the student athlete makes the verbal commitment, they sit on their laurels and wait for the recruiter to contact them to close the deal.
To come onto this forum and talk about the players verbally committing in their freshman through junior years means nothing until those players have made sure to have their house in order, so to speak, and sign the NLI if required for that level of play. A verbal does not guarantee acceptance by the school or its soccer program, nor does it guarantee funding. So glad to hear about younger players are being recognized by recruiters-it seems to be happening more so on the girls' side these days. Just be cautious in mentioning verbal commitments as anything can happen/change leading up to signing days.
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