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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    How many does each school have committed to playing in college?
    Nobody cares.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Nobody cares.
      Well, I do and it goes to the quality of the club players that are on the respective teams. Most teams have a few top club players on them, but not all of those players are of college level. I know of three or four on Tualatin that are committed, maybe more. I assume Sunset has at least a couple. Oh, since your kid is a top rec player, no need to talk about her. Just happy she got in for 5 minutes each half.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        100% of every player on TuHS varsity team is a current club premier player. So how does Sunset have more ??
        Meant more than the other high schools like Southridge, Beaverton, etc

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          100% of every player on TuHS varsity team is a current club premier player. So how does Sunset have more ??
          If its a sucky club then does that mean only 50% of the player is a club player?

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            How many does each school have committed to playing in college?
            Your question is a bit premature for the Class of 2014. Verbal commitments mean squat as they are not binding by either the athlete or the college.

            NCAA NLI Signing Dates for Prospective Student-Athletes Enrolling 2014-15 take place between 2/1/2014 and 8/01/2014.

            A player can sign the NLI and then later be rejected by the college for academic/testing noncompliance.

            So why ask the question now?

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Your question is a bit premature for the Class of 2014. Verbal commitments mean squat as they are not binding by either the athlete or the college.

              NCAA NLI Signing Dates for Prospective Student-Athletes Enrolling 2014-15 take place between 2/1/2014 and 8/01/2014.

              A player can sign the NLI and then later be rejected by the college for academic/testing noncompliance.

              So why ask the question now?
              Because getting a verbal offer is a testament that 1)they are looking to play college soccer and 2) they are of college soccer ability. I completely understand the verbal, not binding, blah, blah, blah part. And 2016's are getting offers now, as have 2015's, and certainly 2014's have. Of course if you are a 2014 and don't have an offer, that's a pretty telling statement of what the colleges think of you.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Because getting a verbal offer is a testament that 1)they are looking to play college soccer and 2) they are of college soccer ability. I completely understand the verbal, not binding, blah, blah, blah part. And 2016's are getting offers now, as have 2015's, and certainly 2014's have. Of course if you are a 2014 and don't have an offer, that's a pretty telling statement of what the colleges think of you.
                We have two players that are seniors this year and neither have even made an attempt to put themselves out there for a college to know they are interested in playing at that level. Both are starters on our club team and their HS team, have multiple years of ODP and hold over camp. Just cause they dont have an offer doesnt mean squat. Your talking out your arse again. Both have received the standard letters "We'd love to have you play at our school, please send us information about yourself thru our website and call to schedule a visit" and so has every girl that has registered thru Captain U and other sites of the likes.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  We have two players that are seniors this year and neither have even made an attempt to put themselves out there for a college to know they are interested in playing at that level. Both are starters on our club team and their HS team, have multiple years of ODP and hold over camp. Just cause they dont have an offer doesnt mean squat. Your talking out your arse again. Both have received the standard letters "We'd love to have you play at our school, please send us information about yourself thru our website and call to schedule a visit" and so has every girl that has registered thru Captain U and other sites of the likes.
                  It was just a way to measure the relative quality. Just like we do when comparing the number of high club players on a team. So, is it difficult to walk around all day with a telephone pole shoved up your ass? Go beat the wife, she's used to it.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    It was just a way to measure the relative quality. Just like we do when comparing the number of high club players on a team. So, is it difficult to walk around all day with a telephone pole shoved up your ass? Go beat the wife, she's used to it.
                    You must be from Vantucky aren't you ???

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Your question is a bit premature for the Class of 2014. Verbal commitments mean squat as they are not binding by either the athlete or the college.

                      NCAA NLI Signing Dates for Prospective Student-Athletes Enrolling 2014-15 take place between 2/1/2014 and 8/01/2014.

                      A player can sign the NLI and then later be rejected by the college for academic/testing noncompliance.

                      So why ask the question now?
                      I would say that 95% of D1 players for 2014 have verbally committed. While I do agree that verbal commits are not legally binding by the player or the school, to say verbal commits are meaningless is pretty unrealistic. The vast majority of scholarship dollars for that class are gone. Yes, there are some 2014's who haven't verbally committed who will be going D1 next year, but it's the rare exception - a late bloomer; a quality player who has changed his/her mind and still can hook on somewhere; a quality player who likely still will be a bench player. Of that group, very few will get other than nominal dollars or they are going to lesser quality programs (I do realize there are exceptions). By the LOI date, it's virtually a done deal for most players even if they are just verbal commits until that date.

                      D2 and D3 (no athletic scholarships) and NAIA schools certainly remain an option.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        We have two players that are seniors this year and neither have even made an attempt to put themselves out there for a college to know they are interested in playing at that level. Both are starters on our club team and their HS team, have multiple years of ODP and hold over camp. Just cause they dont have an offer doesnt mean squat. Your talking out your arse again. Both have received the standard letters "We'd love to have you play at our school, please send us information about yourself thru our website and call to schedule a visit" and so has every girl that has registered thru Captain U and other sites of the likes.
                        I'm not sure of your point. Sincerely. Are there quality players who have no desire to play college soccer but who could? Certainly. Not too many. Are there quality players who desire to play college soccer and who plan on playing but haven't put themselves out there yet of the 2014 class? Fewer yet, and good luck. HS soccer is filled with "athletes" or men/women who can hammer the ball or fast players who have no skills except in boot ball, but who wouldn't be able to get on a quality college soccer program. They look good playing HS soccer and may even dominate the HS all-star teams, but don't confuse that with talent to make it at the next level.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          You must be from Vantucky aren't you ???
                          So how's that malt liquor treating you? Sitting back, sipping on it all day, yelling about the government, spilling mustard on your wife beater,... and wondering why your daughter never gets off the bench in HS since she's always on the field in her rec games.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            They had the most club players. You don't need good soccer you just need players with a little skill. After all its just high school. And in all fairness they had more than one play. Ben would also tell the defenders to boot the ball straight down the field.
                            Sorry to burst your bubble but Ben never told his defenders to boot the ball straight down the field. Or to boot the ball anywhere for that matter. Why so negative towards them? I know it's been a few weeks since the game but I'm just getting caught up. You've probably forgotten by now anyway.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Sorry to burst your bubble but Ben never told his defenders to boot the ball straight down the field. Or to boot the ball anywhere for that matter. Why so negative towards them? I know it's been a few weeks since the game but I'm just getting caught up. You've probably forgotten by now anyway.
                              What's High School soccer?

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Because getting a verbal offer is a testament that 1)they are looking to play college soccer and 2) they are of college soccer ability. I completely understand the verbal, not binding, blah, blah, blah part. And 2016's are getting offers now, as have 2015's, and certainly 2014's have. Of course if you are a 2014 and don't have an offer, that's a pretty telling statement of what the colleges think of you.
                                Obviously a touchy subject for you that you fire back with an insult based on an assumption. Your "blah, blah, blah" regarding verbals, reinforced by mentioning Class of XX verbals is redundant. I said that verbals are moot in the scheme of things until the NLI is signed and the student athlete meets the requirements of the school and the athletic association.

                                I've been through the process so many times now, and no, I do not have anyone graduating in 2014. For what its worth, I have coached and provided references for my players. More importantly, I know the recruitment process well, as my kids received a 'tonne' of letters, postcards, and small gifts from schools, alums including former soccer players, (no recruiters); and later, they were given even more interest through verbal offers from recruiters and schools, because of excellent GPAs, test scores, a good mix of AP coursework, and tons of volunteerism. My kids did the ODP thing, were on successful club teams, and had parents that both played collegiate sports. I did work with several Class of 2012 and 2013, who waited until senior year to communicate with recruiters. Too many assumptions made by you!

                                Verbal offers and commitments are a dime a dozen. Typically, college coaches know one another and share info about who has verbally committed. From the player's parent's perspective and likely his/her coach/club, the verbal offer makes for good boasting material, especially on forums and club/team web sites.

                                Here are some of the typical issues involved with verbal commitments.

                                1. A student athlete verbally commits prior to official signing with a school and then does the following:
                                a. Ceases to look into or consider other schools nearer the signing period.
                                b. Sees his/her skills and quality of play diminish over time, thus drawing disinterest from the school.
                                c. The recruiter no longer work for the school (Now what? You start all over and it might be too late).
                                d. Any verbal offer of a scholarship is moot.
                                e. No written offer arrives in the player's mail box.
                                f. After July 1st, going into senior year through graduation or possibly later, the student athlete does not meet NCCA, NAIA, or NJCAA testing requirements for play time, and any available aid.
                                g. The student athlete does not meet the minimum requirements to gain admission to the college or university. The soccer program might offer you something, but in the end school admissions determines acceptance.
                                h. The student athlete sustains an injury or injuires over time, e.g., torn acl/pcl/ mcl, concussion. I watched both an OSU and ASU coach walk away from games after being there to observe two players and then not offer anything to those players. They have to fit their needs first and might not want to take chances later.
                                i., k. Most importantly, student athletes fail to ask the recruiter if the verbal commitment is binding between the two of them and the school. Most importantly, no matter when the student athlete makes the verbal commitment, they sit on their laurels and wait for the recruiter to contact them to close the deal.

                                To come onto this forum and talk about the players verbally committing in their freshman through junior years means nothing until those players have made sure to have their house in order, so to speak, and sign the NLI if required for that level of play. A verbal does not guarantee acceptance by the school or its soccer program, nor does it guarantee funding. So glad to hear about younger players are being recognized by recruiters-it seems to be happening more so on the girls' side these days. Just be cautious in mentioning verbal commitments as anything can happen/change leading up to signing days.

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