The Greatest Team there has ever Been

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Hard to believe that someone on this site is actually trying to sell the notion that a bench player is going to attract the attention of top team coaches. The ridiculousness of this site grows each day. It's probably TA saying this in hopes of not losing bench players to other teams.

I do not get why you people give any information you think you know to anyone? Why not just keep this info as your little tidbit to keep yourself ahead of the game?

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Hard to believe that someone on this site is actually trying to sell the notion that a bench player is going to attract the attention of top team coaches. The ridiculousness of this site grows each day. It's probably TA saying this in hopes of not losing bench players to other teams.

That makes perfect sense.... really, it does. I mean, why do teams have more than 11? After all, 12-18 will never play and has no chance at a scholarship..... right? I mean, those players should go play for someone else. Be on a less competitive team. Probably not compete at the venues Onyx competes at..... right? Makes perfect sense.

You people complain that we have too many clubs. You complain that our talent is too diluted. Then, you complain about having a dominant team and kids who actually have to sit on the bench SOME. You people are ridiculous and have clearly never played competitive soccer. Bench players get plenty of game time.

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Good for you!

Daughter plays (starts) for Onyx and am hoping for academic scholarship because it would certainly have more assistance for school than soccer scholarship

Just a couple of comments so that you will understand the actual situation:

1. Occasionally a student has done so well in high school academics that the student will receive a special scholarship(s) in recognition of the achievements. This scholarship is regardless of financial need. Each college has it's own name(s) for them.
2. Most academic financial aid is based on need as demonstrated by the FAFSA and/or CSS/Profile applications. FAFSA has a section on its website to give parents and student a rough example of what financial aid may be available to them.
3. The SAT's and ACT's combined with GPA and classes taken have a great deal to do with what financial aid package is offered to a student.
4. Athletic soccer scholarships for women's soccer, the topic here, are based on the player's worth to the team. That is, few receive a large offer in percent of Cost of Attendance, (COA), as freshman unless they are superstars. That can happen when a not-so-great college wants a really good player. But, well known and currently successful programs in Oregon like UP and now OSU can attract some great players. The UO coach is rebuilding.
5. Since a freshman has not established her worth to a team yet, it is typical that an athletic scholarship may be 20% of COA. Then it increases year by year to 40%, 60%, and maybe 80% as a senior team contributor. Many, many factors here.
6. Athletic scholarship players get other special benefits that cause the 20% to be significantly larger in effect.

In any event, please don't hope for academic scholarships, go earn them.

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Just a couple of comments so that you will understand the actual situation:

1. Occasionally a student has done so well in high school academics that the student will receive a special scholarship(s) in recognition of the achievements. This scholarship is regardless of financial need. Each college has it's own name(s) for them.
2. Most academic financial aid is based on need as demonstrated by the FAFSA and/or CSS/Profile applications. FAFSA has a section on its website to give parents and student a rough example of what financial aid may be available to them.
3. The SAT's and ACT's combined with GPA and classes taken have a great deal to do with what financial aid package is offered to a student.
4. Athletic soccer scholarships for women's soccer, the topic here, are based on the player's worth to the team. That is, few receive a large offer in percent of Cost of Attendance, (COA), as freshman unless they are superstars. That can happen when a not-so-great college wants a really good player. But, well known and currently successful programs in Oregon like UP and now OSU can attract some great players. The UO coach is rebuilding.
5. Since a freshman has not established her worth to a team yet, it is typical that an athletic scholarship may be 20% of COA. Then it increases year by year to 40%, 60%, and maybe 80% as a senior team contributor. Many, many factors here.
6. Athletic scholarship players get other special benefits that cause the 20% to be significantly larger in effect.

In any event, please don't hope for academic scholarships, go earn them.

One of the dumbest replies that I have read. Academic scholarships are definitely earned

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That makes perfect sense.... really, it does. I mean, why do teams have more than 11? After all, 12-18 will never play and has no chance at a scholarship..... right? I mean, those players should go play for someone else. Be on a less competitive team. Probably not compete at the venues Onyx competes at..... right? Makes perfect sense.

You people complain that we have too many clubs. You complain that our talent is too diluted. Then, you complain about having a dominant team and kids who actually have to sit on the bench SOME. You people are ridiculous and have clearly never played competitive soccer. Bench players get plenty of game time.

I am one who thinks that the talent is too diluted in PDX. It's great for a club to have a dominant team - whether that is THUSC, FC, OSSA, WT, ESUFC, or VUSA doesn't matter.

For competition depth is good to have, realistically though 12-18 aren't going to get the exposure they want. They are important to the team, and have a role to play in their success, but for recruiting it will be more difficult. If you can keep them happy and they end up getting the exposure they want, I'm not going to knock it.

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Hard to believe that someone on this site is actually trying to sell the notion that a bench player is going to attract the attention of top team coaches. The ridiculousness of this site grows each day. It's probably TA saying this in hopes of not losing bench players to other teams.

Onyx will lose some bench players come August when new players show up. Everyone is aware that will happen and it should happen. Some will leave on their own and some will be replaced. It's all part of competitive sports.

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Would agree but new player makes roster 18. If a solid player approached my club/team and I had space I would certainly take them. No better way to tryout than to watch in game situations.

Your roster is 19 isn't it? One left and one replaced her.

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What????

One of the dumbest replies that I have read. Academic scholarships are definitely earned

Did you read the reply? Can you hold a coherent thought for more than a fleeting moment? Just what part of my post do you think implies other than earning an academic scholarship except the FAFSA part? If you meet basic criteria, that's how one gets "academic" or non-athletic aid. Too hard to understand, idiot?

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That makes perfect sense.... really, it does. I mean, why do teams have more than 11? After all, 12-18 will never play and has no chance at a scholarship..... right? I mean, those players should go play for someone else. Be on a less competitive team. Probably not compete at the venues Onyx competes at..... right? Makes perfect sense.

You people complain that we have too many clubs. You complain that our talent is too diluted. Then, you complain about having a dominant team and kids who actually have to sit on the bench SOME. You people are ridiculous and have clearly never played competitive soccer. Bench players get plenty of game time.

You can't get over the fact that if you don't start, don't expect lots of love from top college coaches. Your kid must be a bench player. Tell them to study. And to go to a good HS.

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You argued the wrong point. No doubt that bringing in good players continues to make teams better, but the point is, that new player will force someone else either off of the team or to the bench. Do you think that player and her parents are going to be happy that the team got better, at the expense of their daughters playing time? And you also want to see team players added, not selfish players. The latter will impact everyone on the team.

I like how you added that word - selfish. It fits in this case.

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The two best teams ever

WESTSIDE TIMBERS G97
Westside Timbers G00's Copa TS

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I like how you added that word - selfish. It fits in this case.

I know a certain team that lost a selfish player that became a much better team.

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to the heading

'the greatest teams ever'

are long forgotten in Oregon. as they (best ever) actually represented oregon and won the old school (pre d.a. & ecnl) usys regional titles and usys national titles. btw only boys teams ever actually won em from oregon.

given the current landscape of youth club soccer in tiny oregon evolving into a doc driven model (quantity is needed to pay the overhead) coupled with the regional and national relevance of the boys d.a. program and the girls ecnl. outstanding teams are a thing of past in oregon. being dominant or better than the other diluted club teams in oregon is really nothing to hang your hat on. our club soccer resembles our osaa hs product, everyone pays and everyone plays, but no team is truly outstanding.

with that said, the current state of affairs in club soccer feeds the logic and rationale of starting and playing on medicore teams in parity riddled age groups. but if you really want to attach yourself to the idea that being a bench player/role player on what could be considered the best team in current oregon club soccer, go for it. it's a sad rationalization for what really is a sad mess or mediocrity.

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'the greatest teams ever'

are long forgotten in Oregon. as they (best ever) actually represented oregon and won the old school (pre d.a. & ecnl) usys regional titles and usys national titles. btw only boys teams ever actually won em from oregon.

given the current landscape of youth club soccer in tiny oregon evolving into a doc driven model (quantity is needed to pay the overhead) coupled with the regional and national relevance of the boys d.a. program and the girls ecnl. outstanding teams are a thing of past in oregon. being dominant or better than the other diluted club teams in oregon is really nothing to hang your hat on. our club soccer resembles our osaa hs product, everyone pays and everyone plays, but no team is truly outstanding.

with that said, the current state of affairs in club soccer feeds the logic and rationale of starting and playing on medicore teams in parity riddled age groups. but if you really want to attach yourself to the idea that being a bench player/role player on what could be considered the best team in current oregon club soccer, go for it. it's a sad rationalization for what really is a sad mess or mediocrity.

So funny and it is clear you never played competitive soccer. The best teams have strong benches. Your quality can't drop the second you make subs. It is as simple as that. From there, it is how the coach manages players and game time. There is nothing new from club soccer to college to professional. It is the same game and same process.

You people have no clue.

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So funny and it is clear you never played competitive soccer. The best teams have strong benches. Your quality can't drop the second you make subs. It is as simple as that. From there, it is how the coach manages players and game time. There is nothing new from club soccer to college to professional. It is the same game and same process.

You people have no clue.

This response doesn't even make sense in relation to the post you were responding to. Do you have any reading comprehension?