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    10 foreign starters for Timbers today - why is this allowed?

    ..and the bench full of foreigners as well. In other countries you have a limit on how many foreigners can be rostered and on the field. Impossible for US players to develop under this scenario.

    Thoughts?

    #2
    Because coaches are paid to win games. They'll take the players they think can get them there. If that means hiring players that couldn't quite make it at home or soon to be retirees? So be it.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Guest View Post
      Because coaches are paid to win games. They'll take the players they think can get them there. If that means hiring players that couldn't quite make it at home or soon to be retirees? So be it.
      Its working to. The Timbers with the 8th highest payroll in MLS missed the playoff last year, and it looks like will miss the playoffs again. Having a foreign coach also seems to be helping. There is no way we could achieve this level of success paying and playing American players.

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        #4
        It is legal. Wise? No.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Guest View Post
          It is legal. Wise? No.
          Its completely legal yes, why wouldn't it be legal. Stupid and not working yes, but its not illegal to be stupid.

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            #6
            Yay more subtle racism because little Tommy and his blonde hair and blue eyes won’t go pro.

            You parents are jokes.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Guest View Post
              Yay more subtle racism because little Tommy and his blonde hair and blue eyes won’t go pro.

              You parents are jokes.
              Nationality and race or different things. If you every filled out a I9 you would know that

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                #8
                It’s not just at the pro level. D1 programs such as OSU are similar. 18 year old American kids don’t have a chance against 22 year old internationals.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Guest View Post
                  It’s not just at the pro level. D1 programs such as OSU are similar. 18 year old American kids don’t have a chance against 22 year old internationals.
                  Agreed.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Guest View Post
                    It’s not just at the pro level. D1 programs such as OSU are similar. 18 year old American kids don’t have a chance against 22 year old internationals.
                    All I’ve ever seen from this kind of forum is moaning and bitching about all kinds of stuff that most people aren’t qualified to talk about. There is no respect for expertise (which I’m sure will prompt a response by a non-expert about how there are no experts in this state - which will make my point). You have a problem with development but don’t know development. You have a problem with coaching but don’t know about coaching. You complain about fees while demanding better standards of everything. You moan about win at all costs while crapping on programs or coaches that try to be equal while simultaneously criticise programs that place an emphasis on winning, especially at the higher levels and age groups but then complain that 18 year olds can’t compete at college.

                    Maybe the answer is to become more of a soccer community! Try and actually listen to opinions of people that have been actively involved in the game and are committed to the development of the game. Develop a culture in America that emphasizes FUNdamentals at the youngest ages. For example, individual ball and 1v1 work until technical proficient and ball secure rather than being pushed into competition before they’re ready. When was the last time you saw a video of a private session solely about 1v1 defending with corrective feedback (purposeful training)…maybe changing the way we think about the last specialisation nature of the game and how it relates to competition would help things improve!

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Guest View Post

                      All I’ve ever seen from this kind of forum is moaning and bitching about all kinds of stuff that most people aren’t qualified to talk about. There is no respect for expertise (which I’m sure will prompt a response by a non-expert about how there are no experts in this state - which will make my point). You have a problem with development but don’t know development. You have a problem with coaching but don’t know about coaching. You complain about fees while demanding better standards of everything. You moan about win at all costs while crapping on programs or coaches that try to be equal while simultaneously criticise programs that place an emphasis on winning, especially at the higher levels and age groups but then complain that 18 year olds can’t compete at college.

                      Maybe the answer is to become more of a soccer community! Try and actually listen to opinions of people that have been actively involved in the game and are committed to the development of the game. Develop a culture in America that emphasizes FUNdamentals at the youngest ages. For example, individual ball and 1v1 work until technical proficient and ball secure rather than being pushed into competition before they’re ready. When was the last time you saw a video of a private session solely about 1v1 defending with corrective feedback (purposeful training)…maybe changing the way we think about the last specialisation nature of the game and how it relates to competition would help things improve!
                      Roughly half of Oregon States Men's Soccer roster is Foreigners. Oregon kids or at least US kids can't play soccer to have a 3-1-5 pac 12 record and 7-4-6 overall.

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                        #12
                        MLS does have rules on how many international slots teams can have, the issue though is teams can trade those slots to other teams so they can add more foreign players. Have an issue, deal with MLS, not Timbers fault for taking advantage of the system.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Guest View Post

                          All I’ve ever seen from this kind of forum is moaning and bitching about all kinds of stuff that most people aren’t qualified to talk about. There is no respect for expertise (which I’m sure will prompt a response by a non-expert about how there are no experts in this state - which will make my point). You have a problem with development but don’t know development. You have a problem with coaching but don’t know about coaching. You complain about fees while demanding better standards of everything. You moan about win at all costs while crapping on programs or coaches that try to be equal while simultaneously criticise programs that place an emphasis on winning, especially at the higher levels and age groups but then complain that 18 year olds can’t compete at college.

                          Maybe the answer is to become more of a soccer community! Try and actually listen to opinions of people that have been actively involved in the game and are committed to the development of the game. Develop a culture in America that emphasizes FUNdamentals at the youngest ages. For example, individual ball and 1v1 work until technical proficient and ball secure rather than being pushed into competition before they’re ready. When was the last time you saw a video of a private session solely about 1v1 defending with corrective feedback (purposeful training)…maybe changing the way we think about the last specialisation nature of the game and how it relates to competition would help things improve!
                          What part of what I said was moaning and bitching? This is the reality that American kids face when competing for D1 spots. Waddle off your high horse Mr/Mrs KnowItAll and stop making swooping generalizations at people and go make a difference in your community.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Guest View Post
                            MLS does have rules on how many international slots teams can have, the issue though is teams can trade those slots to other teams so they can add more foreign players. Have an issue, deal with MLS, not Timbers fault for taking advantage of the system.
                            Interesting. There are 233 international roster slots divided among the 29 MLS clubs and are tradeable. It seems Timbers trade them all.

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                              #15
                              MLS is awful, lots of wasted time and energy on this thread

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