FCSC and Pacific to merge

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Before you start believing your own hype, try to remember that you barely beat 1/3 of the VTimbers U10 pool AND there were 9 teams in the Gold division that you didn't beat. 10th place overall is about right for a top FCSC team...

Doesn't seem like VT has anything greater at U10 then FCSC. You'd think from this quote the almighty VT club could field half a team to beat the "10th place FCSC team" but, oh ya, your teams finished behind FCSC. So what does that say, your combined teams are 11th and 12th place since none showed in gold and finished behind FCSC in silver. Sounds like you should have combined at least these two teams to beat FCSC. They you could say at least you were the 10th place team.

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Doesn't seem like VT has anything greater at U10 then FCSC. You'd think from this quote the almighty VT club could field half a team to beat the "10th place FCSC team" but, oh ya, your teams finished behind FCSC. So what does that say, your combined teams are 11th and 12th place since none showed in gold and finished behind FCSC in silver. Sounds like you should have combined at least these two teams to beat FCSC. They you could say at least you were the 10th place team.

Geez, I'm not a Timbers parent or fan for that matter but did you ever consider winning isn't the priority at U10?

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We are talking about FCSC

Geez, I'm not a Timbers parent or fan for that matter but did you ever consider winning isn't the priority at U10?

We are talking about Salmon Creek right? This is a club where winning is everything. We play player up and down and all around to get the win at all costs.

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We are talking about Salmon Creek right? This is a club where winning is everything. We play player up and down and all around to get the win at all costs.

It amazing when VT wins a tournament they are just the dominate club but, when another club wins it's because they had play up/downs and win at all cost? By the way no play ups/downs were used. It's been same roster every tournament. Hate to burst your bubble but, there are other girls in the county that can play soccer and compete with those Timber girls and actually don't want to be on the VT. Now, give it a rest and realize that there are coaches and kids outside of VT that can play decent soccer. And remember were are talking about 9 year olds.

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It amazing when VT wins a tournament they are just the dominate club but, when another club wins it's because they had play up/downs and win at all cost? By the way no play ups/downs were used. It's been same roster every tournament. Hate to burst your bubble but, there are other girls in the county that can play soccer and compete with those Timber girls and actually don't want to be on the VT. Now, give it a rest and realize that there are coaches and kids outside of VT that can play decent soccer. And remember were are talking about 9 year olds.

But those girls will be at VT or another club by U14. No reason to stay at Nemesis at all unless your child never wants to travel or develop.

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It amazing when VT wins a tournament they are just the dominate club but, when another club wins it's because they had play up/downs and win at all cost? By the way no play ups/downs were used. It's been same roster every tournament. Hate to burst your bubble but, there are other girls in the county that can play soccer and compete with those Timber girls and actually don't want to be on the VT. Now, give it a rest and realize that there are coaches and kids outside of VT that can play decent soccer. And remember were are talking about 9 year olds.

I agree...but don't think that the poster that is firing you up is a VT poster/parent...there are alot of trolls on this site. I think it's great to have FCSC and Pacific FC out there. There simply isn't enough coaching to go around in Clark County.......
I would ignore the previous poster....if you are happy at VT or FCSC or Pacific then that is great....it's important to "want" to be where you are at.

FCSC and Pacific are great places to be for kids that are not serious about soccer. There are 9 year old parents and players that do not want to be serious. It cost $250 to play in the U10 Academy at VT...that's the cheapest in the area. And you never know...maybe your child will get more serious by U13 or U14 and decide to move to a club like VT that offers more.

And at young ages the best players change throughout the year...and they are most likely NEVER on the same team...it's only at about U12/13 that they migrate to VT....it's always been that way and it always will be that way...even with a Pacific/FCSC merger.

VT welcomes a Pacific/FCSC merger....hopefully it will help organize them, get better coaching, especially at the young ages...young kids are not getting the quality technical work outside of VT....so when they do come at U12/13 they are behind

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"FCSC and Pacific are great places to be for kids that are not serious about soccer."

This is an unfair statement. At what age does a kid ---NOT a parent--- decide they are "serious"? Certainly not 9 years old!

And beside what is your definition of "serious"? Is it "wants to make it a profession?"

"Serious". It's all relative. Just enjoy the ride. And you said it best with this line "it's important to "want" to be where you are at"---that's the key.

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I agree...but don't think that the poster that is firing you up is a VT poster/parent...there are alot of trolls on this site. I think it's great to have FCSC and Pacific FC out there. There simply isn't enough coaching to go around in Clark County.......
I would ignore the previous poster....if you are happy at VT or FCSC or Pacific then that is great....it's important to "want" to be where you are at.

FCSC and Pacific are great places to be for kids that are not serious about soccer. There are 9 year old parents and players that do not want to be serious. It cost $250 to play in the U10 Academy at VT...that's the cheapest in the area. And you never know...maybe your child will get more serious by U13 or U14 and decide to move to a club like VT that offers more.

And at young ages the best players change throughout the year...and they are most likely NEVER on the same team...it's only at about U12/13 that they migrate to VT....it's always been that way and it always will be that way...even with a Pacific/FCSC merger.

VT welcomes a Pacific/FCSC merger....hopefully it will help organize them, get better coaching, especially at the young ages...young kids are not getting the quality technical work outside of VT....so when they do come at U12/13 they are behind

My daughter did camps at eastside,pacific, vt and fcsc. Don't believe the hype, vt isn't any more advanced traing than the rest.she actually thought it was more lame than some of the others. Not challenging enough and the organization of the sessions wasnt good,way to much idle time.

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But Why?

19 pages into this thread and I still don't understand why Pacific FC would want to do this. What are the real benefits for current and future Pacific FC players? Reduced costs? Better coaching? Better fields? Attracts better players?

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19 pages into this thread and I still don't understand why Pacific FC would want to do this. What are the real benefits for current and future Pacific FC players? Reduced costs? Better coaching? Better fields? Attracts better players?

reread : it's about staying in OPL

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reread : it's about staying in OPL

Can't they do that without involving FCSC? All they need to do is get organized into a real club between now and next summer. If you're saying that they need FCSC's help to do that, then I'd be really concerned for them...

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19 pages into this thread and I still don't understand why Pacific FC would want to do this. What are the real benefits for current and future Pacific FC players? Reduced costs? Better coaching? Better fields? Attracts better players?

Reduced costs??? no...they are talking between $1,100 - $1,200/player. They need to pay for a DOC.
Better fields???? actually, I think Pacific does a better job at locking up fields than VTimbers or WSA, kudos to them.
Attract better players??? at the young ages possibly, but by the time U13 rolls around and preparations need to be done for College Showcase Tourney's etc you'll find the best players moving to VTimbers or across the river.......the Timbers DA Program is just beginning.

Bottom line is that the soccer landscape has completely changed with the Timbers Alliance....it's impossible to start up something new and be successful. It would take an act of God and about 10 years before Pacific could even be close at having a consistently regionally recognized group of teams that compete. I think the questions should be:

What are the goals of Pacific FC? Develop college players?????Create and develop a home for players just below Premier level in hopes that they could develop into a solid Premier player.

If the goal is to try and compete with VTimbers/Eastside/FCPDX/THUSC then they are developing a model that will fail.

Now if they are developing a model to feed the above clubs with quality players than they are some of the smartest soccer saavy people I know.

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Can't they do that without involving FCSC? All they need to do is get organized into a real club between now and next summer. If you're saying that they need FCSC's help to do that, then I'd be really concerned for them...

FCSC would only be as important as the other clubs. Again not merging with SC.
SC would join Battle Ground, Praire, Lewis River and make one giant rec club. And that club would feed into Pacific. Just like Van West rec club does. So SC would would just be one rec club out of 6 that feeds into Pacific. So they would only have 1/6 say in things that went on.

Then SC could drop their charade of being a Premier club and drop a lot of expenses before they have to go out of business.

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Bottom line is that the soccer landscape has completely changed with the Timbers Alliance.....

While I agree with a lot of what you said this part is untrue. My kid is in an Alliance club and I can honestly say nothing changed but the uniform.

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FCSC would only be as important as the other clubs. Again not merging with SC.
SC would join Battle Ground, Praire, Lewis River and make one giant rec club. And that club would feed into Pacific. Just like Van West rec club does. So SC would would just be one rec club out of 6 that feeds into Pacific. So they would only have 1/6 say in things that went on.

Then SC could drop their charade of being a Premier club and drop a lot of expenses before they have to go out of business.

Anyone know the date for this year's Annual General Meeting at Salmon Creek? I was one of 3 people that attended last year :) but suspect this year's turnout might be a bit higher...