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    Spencer should apply

    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    We are not talking specifically about ratios but access to experience. Why are you arguing against having access to more experienced coaching?

    BTW if none of the clubs in Oregon have that much money then why is LO paying not one but two of their coaches $100K.
    For that kind of green John Spencer should stick around Portland and show MP that he really does know how to coach.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      We are not talking specifically about ratios but access to experience. Why are you arguing against having access to more experienced coaching?

      BTW if none of the clubs in Oregon have that much money then why is LO paying not one but two of their coaches $100K.
      The coaches in the Portland area have just as much experience as what you see in Seattle.

      Why would you think Seattle has any more experience? Their coaching profiles aren't any more impressive then what you see from Portland.

      Unless you have some experience training in Seattle, I would say you are full of hot air.

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        Read for content

        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        The coaches in the Portland area have just as much experience as what you see in Seattle.

        Why would you think Seattle has any more experience? Their coaching profiles aren't any more impressive then what you see from Portland.

        Unless you have some experience training in Seattle, I would say you are full of hot air.
        It a matter of numbers not specific examples. The argument is that with consolidation PDX clubs would have the ability to offer better coaching to ALL teams which benefits BOTH players and less experienced coaches. The clubs cited in Seattle do not have better coaches just MORE experienced coaches which provides a training opportunity for coaches too.

        There is not a single club in Oregon that can deliver the coverage of every age group for both sexes that the three mentioned.

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          Don't Argue

          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          It a matter of numbers not specific examples. The argument is that with consolidation PDX clubs would have the ability to offer better coaching to ALL teams which benefits BOTH players and less experienced coaches. The clubs cited in Seattle do not have better coaches just MORE experienced coaches which provides a training opportunity for coaches too.

          There is not a single club in Oregon that can deliver the coverage of every age group for both sexes that the three mentioned.
          What are you arguing with these people? Don't realize that they love being members of a small club with a handful of highly trained coaches where their little Johnny or little Susie can be on the "A" team? Don't get it by now that they revel in the sideline cred that gives them or the cocktail party pride it allows theim to prattle on about?

          Seriously this is the Portland mentality that enjoys the Groundhog day like competition between the handful of top team in each age group. Why would you expect them to want to break out of that dream? Don't you understand that their team actually beats the clubs from other states once in a while, never mind that those are the other clubs "B" or "C" team, they still have beat a "team" from one of the top clubs?

          No my friend you have to realize that this is the Portland way of doing things and that to become seriously competitive is not in keeping with our State's mentality of "equality" and "fair play" where every player should get a chance to be on the "A" team regardless of talent or ability because you know someday they will be "developed" by those handful of great coaches!

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            Really Funny

            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            It a matter of numbers not specific examples. The argument is that with consolidation PDX clubs would have the ability to offer better coaching to ALL teams which benefits BOTH players and less experienced coaches. The clubs cited in Seattle do not have better coaches just MORE experienced coaches which provides a training opportunity for coaches too.

            There is not a single club in Oregon that can deliver the coverage of every age group for both sexes that the three mentioned.
            I wonder if these same parents who like their small little clubs send their kdis to Jesuit? It would be interesting to see if they could see the irony of that?

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              What ???

              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              I wonder if these same parents who like their small little clubs send their kdis to Jesuit? It would be interesting to see if they could see the irony of that?
              I'm not sure you know what irony may be, so I'll give you an opportunity to explain your post. Please explain what a high school, Jesuit, has to do with this topic. Do you think Jesuit has an enrollment of 5,000? Just what are you attempting to illustrate?

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Shame on Doyle for taking $50k of our money. Absurd for him to get 10% of the clubs REVENUES for the year.
                Shame on you for making assumptions and uninformed judgements. When did $ become your money? Before becoming mayor, Mr. Doyle had part-time jobs. These are known facts and shared publicly and in his campaign disclosures and tax returns. How convenient to disregard and omit facts.

                If youth sports did not have vocal supporters like Mr. Doyle over many years, then we would have lost a lot of ground to other groups and their local representatives, who wanted funding and usage redirected to other ventures. Having grown up in southern Cal, I saw youth programs lose out to other interests. Lose the sports, see the boredom, deal with the increase of gang influence and substance abuse. Today, kids have options to play sports in Beaverton. Soccer competes with many other groups, so quit complaining and enjoy the time with your kids.

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                  Jesuit = consolidation of TEACHING talent

                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  I'm not sure you know what irony may be, so I'll give you an opportunity to explain your post. Please explain what a high school, Jesuit, has to do with this topic. Do you think Jesuit has an enrollment of 5,000? Just what are you attempting to illustrate?
                  You send your kid to Jesuit to get a more intense education than you would at a public HS.

                  You send them to Jesuit to be around like minded students and athletes who are more competitive than the average public school population.

                  You send them to Jesuit because you can afford more than a free public education.

                  Insisting on small club ball is like saying my kids will get a great education in Colton! Yes they have a few great teachers but not enough to cover every student every year!

                  Get it now?

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                    Thank you.

                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    You send your kid to Jesuit to get a more intense education than you would at a public HS.

                    You send them to Jesuit to be around like minded students and athletes who are more competitive than the average public school population.

                    You send them to Jesuit because you can afford more than a free public education.

                    Insisting on small club ball is like saying my kids will get a great education in Colton! Yes they have a few great teachers but not enough to cover every student every year!

                    Get it now?
                    I always do "get it now". With the great variety of posters it is oft times hard to discern their sarcasm or intent. I found your posting to be oblique and obtuse. Hence, my request for clarification. Get it now?

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                      [QUOTE=Unregistered;809820]Shame on you for making assumptions and uninformed judgements. When did $ become your money? Before becoming mayor, Mr. Doyle had part-time jobs. These are known facts and shared publicly and in his campaign disclosures and tax returns. How convenient to disregard and omit facts.

                      Lets be clear. Anybody that lives or works in Beaverton or has their children participate in Westsides programs has a right to say what they want because it IS THEIR/OUR money.

                      Give it a rest lady, the facts are Double Dip Doyle got $130k from Beaverton in 2009 and nearly $50k from Westside in 2009 plus more a lot more money from them all the other years.

                      The fact is Doyle should not have double dipped in 2009 and he should make a $50k donation to THPRD in an effort to try to make amends for his greed.

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                        I would be really interested to see if THUSC can stay in the game with Westside taking over the fields. THUSC and FC should merge or beware

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          I always do "get it now". With the great variety of posters it is oft times hard to discern their sarcasm or intent. I found your posting to be oblique and obtuse. Hence, my request for clarification. Get it now?
                          Don't blame your stupidity on the original poster. The fact that you can't connect the dots is your problem, not his.

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                            Really?

                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Don't blame your stupidity on the original poster. The fact that you can't connect the dots is your problem, not his.
                            If you connected those dots, you must be in the same mental institution ward as the original poster, which, by the way, is you.

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                              A Puzzlement

                              I find it interesting that some are so quick to brush off Mr. Doyle's alleged conflict. Think of it this way. He is paid to be full time mayor of Beaverton. A full time 6 figure gig. One that is hardly an 8 to 5 job. Ironically, at the same time, he was paid 50 K for 24 hours a week (i think that is what the IRS form said) for some sort of service to WSM. To put in context that means WSM represented that he did something for 1,200 hours. Well, he didn't coach, he didnt push paper in the office (they have staff for that), they dont own their own fields, what did he do? Its only a 500K revenue organization and to get that high of a percentage of the revenue, it should have been something constructive and material. More instructively, he has not been paid recently. So did they hire someone else to do what he did? I dont know, but i doubt it, does anyone know? That might yield some insight.

                              The question ultimately is did he compromise his time with the City (I doubt that), or did a 501c3 get what they paid for and is that consistent wiht the charitable mission of WSM?

                              Note i think it is a bit of a stretch that any of the larger local soccer clubs are truly "charitable" based on their behaviors.

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                                Really ignorant post

                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                I find it interesting that some are so quick to brush off Mr. Doyle's alleged conflict. Think of it this way. He is paid to be full time mayor of Beaverton. A full time 6 figure gig. One that is hardly an 8 to 5 job. Ironically, at the same time, he was paid 50 K for 24 hours a week (i think that is what the IRS form said) for some sort of service to WSM. To put in context that means WSM represented that he did something for 1,200 hours. Well, he didn't coach, he didnt push paper in the office (they have staff for that), they dont own their own fields, what did he do? Its only a 500K revenue organization and to get that high of a percentage of the revenue, it should have been something constructive and material. More instructively, he has not been paid recently. So did they hire someone else to do what he did? I dont know, but i doubt it, does anyone know? That might yield some insight.

                                The question ultimately is did he compromise his time with the City (I doubt that), or did a 501c3 get what they paid for and is that consistent wiht the charitable mission of WSM?

                                Note i think it is a bit of a stretch that any of the larger local soccer clubs are truly "charitable" based on their behaviors.
                                1. Do you not know the difference between a non-profit and charitable institutions? Try basic knowledge before you spout nonsense.

                                2. You haven't a clue about what Doyle what work was done by Doyle for the payment do you? Was it past due wages? How about work he performed in that year? You don't know and are trying by unsubtle innuendo to cast doubt on the whole matter. It was investigated at length in a past election. Did you not understand it then? Did you loose the election to him? Or, more probably, an idiot who he thinks he has an actual cause when you just need some mental evaluations and help. Go away.

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