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Actually for us the drive is longer. 30 minutes to Liberty, more in rush hour. Traffic to Tigard makes the drive too long as well. Would be nice to be in the new Timbers facility, much closer. Aloha serves a big chunk of South Beaverton, that doesn't have access to turf fields. WST and THUSC practice at PCC which is also too far, THPRD is much better. Big need for more fields in this area.

Many players are leaving to other clubs and other sports. It would be great if all of the TH clubs could see the potential and could work together. That's the real issue in Oregon not just TH. Solve the ego problems and start meeting the players needs, and it would improve for all.

Would be very helpful if the TH could place kids on teams for location and times that work with the families, then have an all star team or something. It's hard for some to try out make the team then find out when and where the practices are which change all of the time, then you are just supposed to change your whole families schedule and life around soccer. Very frustrating!

Working together is not going to happen with WST and their current personnel and mission. They think they are invincible in part due to their very cozy relationship with THPRD and the City of Beaverton via Mayor Doyle.

Whats frustrating for me is that WST wanted and helped create OPL, tried to kill OYSA, and now some of them are saying that OPL isn't all that it was cracked up to be and are now supporting OYSA.

WST keeps creating messes that the rest of us have to deal with. And whoever the poster is on their behalf here..... I really hope they are not paying you very much. You really are stupid and ignorant and helping polarize the community against WST. Your post simply make you and WST look very bad and creates more ill will against your club.

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I pay THPRD taxes because of where I live. My business contributes money to
THPRD. My feeling is these resources should be open to all, and if they can't be, they should be closed to all. WS or THUSC getting special dispensation just makes the process look corrupt.

If my tax money goes into supporting a field, then my kids should be able to play there.

As far as WS and THUSC, with all the conversations about how great they are, shouldn't they have the stuff to develop their own fields? Then no one will tell them what to do.

They can play there. No one said they can't.

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Working together is not going to happen with WST and their current personnel and mission. They think they are invincible in part due to their very cozy relationship with THPRD and the City of Beaverton via Mayor Doyle.

Whats frustrating for me is that WST wanted and helped create OPL, tried to kill OYSA, and now some of them are saying that OPL isn't all that it was cracked up to be and are now supporting OYSA.

WST keeps creating messes that the rest of us have to deal with. And whoever the poster is on their behalf here..... I really hope they are not paying you very much. You really are stupid and ignorant and helping polarize the community against WST. Your post simply make you and WST look very bad and creates more ill will against your club.

I am not the WS supporter, we have done both rec and classic and see both sides.

I agree with the part about WS needing to do better. I don't know PB but he seems to be the only one in years willing to take BK on. If we have to get lawyers and a judge involved that's what we have to do. I never voted for BK, I knew it was a conflict, but at least he is supporting soccer among the other sports. He is helping and volunteering, more than most, including myself. The voters did vote for him. So someone can run against him and try to do a better job. In the mean time, the fields problem needs to be addressed.

TH is losing players to other clubs and sports. If everyone could see this and work together there is so much potential. Remember what Aloha football accomplished together with years of work?

TH indistrict/out of district is a big issue, but for this thread, can we focus on the BSD area (Beaverton School District) and discuss what the needs and goals are?

Hope all of the TH clubs are discussing this with THJSL and THPRD and there is some fair and balanced solutions!

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Working together is not going to happen with WST and their current personnel and mission. They think they are invincible in part due to their very cozy relationship with THPRD and the City of Beaverton via Mayor Doyle.

Whats frustrating for me is that WST wanted and helped create OPL, tried to kill OYSA, and now some of them are saying that OPL isn't all that it was cracked up to be and are now supporting OYSA.

WST keeps creating messes that the rest of us have to deal with. And whoever the poster is on their behalf here..... I really hope they are not paying you very much. You really are stupid and ignorant and helping polarize the community against WST. Your post simply make you and WST look very bad and creates more ill will against your club.

Which clubs are saying OPL is all cracked up as it used to be?

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Just Cony and WST

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Just Cony and WST

Last time I checked WST is still an OPL member

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I am not the WS supporter, we have done both rec and classic and see both sides.

I agree with the part about WS needing to do better. I don't know PB but he seems to be the only one in years willing to take BK on. If we have to get lawyers and a judge involved that's what we have to do. I never voted for BK, I knew it was a conflict, but at least he is supporting soccer among the other sports. He is helping and volunteering, more than most, including myself. The voters did vote for him. So someone can run against him and try to do a better job. In the mean time, the fields problem needs to be addressed.

TH is losing players to other clubs and sports. If everyone could see this and work together there is so much potential. Remember what Aloha football accomplished together with years of work?

TH indistrict/out of district is a big issue, but for this thread, can we focus on the BSD area (Beaverton School District) and discuss what the needs and goals are?

Hope all of the TH clubs are discussing this with THJSL and THPRD and there is some fair and balanced solutions!

The issue appears to be over supply of players, under supply of fields. The solution therefore would be to build more fields.

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Last time I checked WST is still an OPL member

Uhhh.... yea? Just because they are still an OPL member does not mean their support hasn't changed.

Rocket science....

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Uhhh.... yea? Just because they are still an OPL member does not mean their support hasn't changed.

Rocket science....

WRONG. If they feel like this is not the best option then they are free to leave and go play OYSA

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Really stupid.

Perhaps because your child is so academically advanced you should have them look up some words in the dictionary for you... I would have them start with Free rider, then next freeloader, and sponger. On one hand I have to congratulate Westside for having worked out a honey of a deal with THPRD. A quick check with friends in other communities (you might have your child look up friend also) produces an average turf field rental cost of $30 per hour, more with lights. So exclusive rental at a pice that is 20% of the market price.

The problem I have however is Soccer in Oregon is not yet fully mature, we shouldn't be contracting on number of clubs/players. We should continue to expand.

It is the responsibility of the older established clubs to pave the way, and then move on, so new clubs can continue to expand. These mature clubs will define their own resource base, new fields etc...

It appears our problem is the mature clubs are afraid to leave the nest. This is causing two problems, because they are too big they are knocking the fledging clubs out of the nest, while at the same time potentially causing the whole nest to fall apart because they are so big.

WS get out there and build your own nest, stop sponging off the rest of us. The only thing sadder and more pathetic than a snob is a snob on public assistance.

Try to understand. In return for leasing, not for an hour here and there, the grass fields and keeping the THPRD fields at very full use, when not being used by football and lacrosse, both WS and THUSC get low rates on the turf fields. At the same facility, the baseball and softball fields aren't populated by family picnics, but actual competitive teams. Your argument about mature clubs "and then move on" is very ignorant. Move on to where? Incur additional costs for fields so that new clubs can start? Additional costs to players and parents? Is that their job? No. The only thing pathetic here is clearly, you.

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WRONG. If they feel like this is not the best option then they are free to leave and go play OYSA

Wrong? Really?

WST did go play OYSA. They chose the OYSA state cup over the OPL state cup.

WST has also been campaigning for the OPC to rejoin the OYSA.

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Wrong? Really?

WST did go play OYSA. They chose the OYSA state cup over the OPL state cup.

WST has also been campaigning for the OPC to rejoin the OYSA.

Really. Wrong. There were a couple of teams that played OYSA and OPL and one that played only OYSA. The club most definitely did not play OYSA to the exclusion of OPL.

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Really. Wrong. There were a couple of teams that played OYSA and OPL and one that played only OYSA. The club most definitely did not play OYSA to the exclusion of OPL.

Be honest now... There were more than a couple of teams. Sugar coat it all you want. That doesn't change the fact that WST choose OYSA over the OPL state cup.

Cony encouraged this route.

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Be honest now... There were more than a couple of teams. Sugar coat it all you want. That doesn't change the fact that WST choose OYSA over the OPL state cup.

Cony encouraged this route.

U13B, U18G, and U18B skipped on OPL. There is not U19 so their u19G couldn't play in OPL.

U14G and U16B played in Both.

The U18B and U19G not playing in OPL makes sense, but not the other 2.

Our team at WST was not given the choice to enter the OPL state cup and we were state champions on the boys side. We were told that we were to stay OPL.

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Two Million dollar proposition

Perhaps because your child is so academically advanced you should have them look up some words in the dictionary for you... I would have them start with Free rider, then next freeloader, and sponger. On one hand I have to congratulate Westside for having worked out a honey of a deal with THPRD. A quick check with friends in other communities (you might have your child look up friend also) produces an average turf field rental cost of $30 per hour, more with lights. So exclusive rental at a pice that is 20% of the market price.

The problem I have however is Soccer in Oregon is not yet fully mature, we shouldn't be contracting on number of clubs/players. We should continue to expand.

It is the responsibility of the older established clubs to pave the way, and then move on, so new clubs can continue to expand. These mature clubs will define their own resource base, new fields etc...

It appears our problem is the mature clubs are afraid to leave the nest. This is causing two problems, because they are too big they are knocking the fledging clubs out of the nest, while at the same time potentially causing the whole nest to fall apart because they are so big.

WS get out there and build your own nest, stop sponging off the rest of us. The only thing sadder and more pathetic than a snob is a snob on public assistance.

Nothing and I mean nothing would change the landscape of youth soccer here in PDX more than one of the Metro area clubs going out and buying property and putting up a couple of fields and an indoor facility. You need about 10 acres to build two full size fields and have room for an indoor building and parking. Grass fields cost about $250,000 each properly drained and irrigated and an indoor facility costs about another $500,000. If you can find 10 acres close in you are going to be looking at a minimum of another million for the land.

A few years ago THUSC was considering looking for their own home but after a club wide survey put that at the bottom of the priority list efforts to explore that option stopped.

I would say that the first club to go this route would end up dominating area soccer as both players and coaches would preferr the quality and stability of a club owned facility. You would need to raise about half of that and borrow the rest and hope that the growth of the club memebership could support the interest costs.

However the numbers for the size of the existing clubs just don't pencil when you are looking at annual field costs under $50,000. Which leaves you with park & rec districts (aka tax payers) footing the bill for the development of the infrastructure.