Tualatin Hills Fields

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You are very very wrong. Many clubs elsewhere do not enjoy publicly subsidized turf fees and pay full price like any other entity.
The $7.00 subsidized fees are a gift. If I were a taxpayer I would be outraged that I was paying for the ability of so few to utilize turf.
Something is off here? Turf is a scarse commodity and if it were subject to market supply and demand the cost would be considerably more and there would be a far more open process to obtain use.

Maybe Channel 2 should look at this angle? Follow the money trail and if there is any impropriety this is where it will become evident.

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You are very very wrong. Many clubs elsewhere do not enjoy publicly subsidized turf fees and pay full price like any other entity.
The $7.00 subsidized fees are a gift. If I were a taxpayer I would be outraged that I was paying for the ability of so few to utilize turf.
Something is off here? Turf is a scarse commodity and if it were subject to market supply and demand the cost would be considerably more and there would be a far more open process to obtain use.

You saying this doesn't make it true.

Yes, WST and THUSC have a good deal at a reduced rate. They both guarantee year around field rental. Per hour, their cost is lower, but they make up for it by keeping the fields constantly paid for. This is where the cost comes in. If you check, field costs are similar across all the clubs. Go find out... they are all non profits, their tax filings are public record. Put your money where your accusations are.

Oh, and we are talking about Aloha. They may be within the BSD boundaries, but few of them are actually in the taxable THPRD district.

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The sad thing is that none of the "soccer people" of Oregon care about the players. Everyone is too busy working on their own ego's and looking at what they can get out of it.
A list of what is wrong with OR soccer:
* Too many conflicts of interest
* The OPL league, that is run by club DOC's is a joke.
* OYSA that is run by monkey's that could not organize anything and are always too busy fighting with OPL
* Two state championships
* WST having people on their board that are involved with THPRD
* Portland Timbers partnering with all the adidas clubs but have no idea how the clubs are ran.
Anyone care to add some more?

This is such a stupid and ignorant thing to say. None of these people care about kids? Most coaches are paid peanuts to coach our kids. They do it because they love soccer and enjoy working with our kids. Stupid stupid stupid.

You stupid people think all these coaches should work for free? Do you work for free? Board members donate hundreds of hours for FREE to keep these clubs running. Each club has a few staff coaches, who's full-time job is to coach kids and manage the coaches. These people should work for free because you say so? Stupid. Again, how about you work for free. How much time do you donate? Idiots.

The real issue on the West side is WSM and WSW. They have been trying to force THUSC out for years. They have a strangle hold on every board on the West side. It's ridiculous and wrong how much influence they have on controlling field use.

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This is such a stupid and ignorant thing to say. None of these people care about kids? Most coaches are paid peanuts to coach our kids. They do it because they love soccer and enjoy working with our kids. Stupid stupid stupid.

You are right about MOST of our coaches. It is a labor of love, giving back to the game and the kids for a paltry amount. MOST have other fulltime occupations.

However, this is not true for all, albeit a minority but a minority that causes the majority of the problems and work for their ego.

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Pretty Funny

Paul Blackmore gets called out and he stops posting.

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Doyle took office in 2009 and was paid by Westside Metros SC in that year. He didn't receive compensation from WSM in 2010 or since. Is this hard to understand? Perhaps some of you busy bodies might find out how much the two soccer clubs have given THPRD over the years over and above the field costs in money and equipment. Also remember soccer shares the fields with lacrosse and football. Being a non-profit doesn't mean well spent money or small salaries and/or expenses. Just that it doesn't earn a profit.

He was elected in 2008 and took office jan 1 2009. Absolutely no reason for him to accepted any money from n entity he was still affiliated with in 2009 especially one that paid him $50k and is a non profit that only generated $600k in revenues that year.

Yes, with the boards Denny is on and affiliations, there are clear conflicts of interest.

Facts are facts. Move on along friend of Denny supporter. This really is simple to understand.

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Oh, and we are talking about Aloha. They may be within the BSD boundaries, but few of them are actually in the taxable THPRD district.

Very good point.

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What?

He was elected in 2008 and took office jan 1 2009. Absolutely no reason for him to accepted any money from n entity he was still affiliated with in 2009 especially one that paid him $50k and is a non profit that only generated $600k in revenues that year.

Yes, with the boards Denny is on and affiliations, there are clear conflicts of interest.

Facts are facts. Move on along friend of Denny supporter. This really is simple to understand.

You, or your guy, lost the election for mayor of Beaverton. Get over it. THPRD has its own Board of Directors and are not tied in with the city. The Beaverton schools are not supervised by the mayor, either. Guilt by association only applies with pigs, not people. The THPRD directors are also elected. Do you see a trend here? No nut-job vast conspiracy. Don't like that Doyle got money from WS Metros SC in 2009? Then don't have your kid play for the club or vote for Doyle. And why is it your concern that WSM paid him any money? Didn't they decide, and not you, to pay him or not through their Board of Directors? Do tell, what boards positions and affiliations does the mayor have today that create these conflicts in your mind. Be specific and what the conflicts are.

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You saying this doesn't make it true.

Yes, WST and THUSC have a good deal at a reduced rate. They both guarantee year around field rental. Per hour, their cost is lower, but they make up for it by keeping the fields constantly paid for. This is where the cost comes in. If you check, field costs are similar across all the clubs. Go find out... they are all non profits, their tax filings are public record. Put your money where your accusations are.

Oh, and we are talking about Aloha. They may be within the BSD boundaries, but few of them are actually in the taxable THPRD district.

I'm not talking about Aloha?
My comments are about clubs in general and I referenced Vancouver and Seattle.
I don't have exact numbers. I gave ranges and they are accurate. You prove me wrong if you're so inclined.
$7.00 per hour for turf is absurdly low and the cost is being subsidized by the taxpayers.
You all can fight about "who" I'm just saying that if you all follow the dollars alot will be revealed.

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doesn't anyone find it strange that a public entity is allowed to "contract" with a private non-profit entity?
Isn't there an inherint conflict when public funds build and maintain a facility yet the very public that is paying for the fields are not allowed to use them because of contracted use agreements?
Akin to waiting at a max stop and being told you can't ride the train because the Timbers have rented all the trains for Timbers fans for the day.

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What was he paid $50,000 for? My daughter is only 10 so we are brand new to club soccer. I assumed board members were volunteers? No?

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I'm not talking about Aloha?
$7.00 per hour for turf is absurdly low and the cost is being subsidized by the taxpayers.

The going rate for turf field rental is at least 10x that amount.

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What do you think it was for?

What was he paid $50,000 for? My daughter is only 10 so we are brand new to club soccer. I assumed board members were volunteers? No?

HINT FOR IDIOTS: Google provides a service wherein a topic is suggested and then if you know how a computer keyboard, mouse and monitor work, a search ensues. Try Westside Metro Soccer Club or Westside Timbers, or mayor of Beaverton, or things like that. After you do, either *-off or report your findings.

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Wow!

The going rate for turf field rental is at least 10x that amount.

You must be really brilliant. Of course, leasing the grass fields plus the turf fields to keep income coming in to THPRD on al large and continuing basis means nothing. Why don't you try to lease a turf field for $7 for one hour and let us know how it turned out. By the way, just because some guy said it was $7 per hour doesn't make it true. Get it?

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Example?

doesn't anyone find it strange that a public entity is allowed to "contract" with a private non-profit entity?
Isn't there an inherint conflict when public funds build and maintain a facility yet the very public that is paying for the fields are not allowed to use them because of contracted use agreements?
Akin to waiting at a max stop and being told you can't ride the train because the Timbers have rented all the trains for Timbers fans for the day.

Can you tell us just which soccer clubs are not non-profits that are also not government owed, i.e., private?