Combine the Opl Oysa cups

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Do this and it will solve some of the problems. It is what would be best for all teams. one unified state cup, then we can all go back to hating each other when it is over. Call it the oploysa championship or? Kind of a temporary joint venture thing

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Too late now. At this point it becomes a money problem. OPL is not going to back down and join the OYSA state cup. Maybe next year they will be combined.

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You could unify the State Cup... OPL-OYSA State Cup

Have OPL keep the revenues from teams from OPL league.

Have OYSA keep revenues from teams from OYSA.

Of course the field fees would be pro rated to the number of teams each league has entered in so OPL field fees would be higher.

This would be fair. Unfortunately I think the main reason for OYSA pushing for reunification is because they want half the profits from State Cup which is not reasonable.

It is similar to someone taking a business that is doing well and combining it with a business that is going under and then splitting the future profits equally between both owners.

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It is similar to someone taking a business that is doing well and combining it with a business that is going under and then splitting the future profits equally between both owners.

This is business ... stranger things have happened to get a transaction done.
Let's face it. There is zero motivation from the OPC. The only thing that OYSA has that the OPC wants is the State Cup > FWR > National Championship pathway and that worth is even debatable. The OPC has OYSA right where they want them. On the ropes. It's only a matter of time until OYSA cries uncle and the OPC will control 100% of upper level soccer in Oregon. Prediction is 1-2 years and the OPL will have everything it wants.
Meanwhile it's the OPL kids that pay the price for Oregon soccer politics in more ways than one.

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This is business ... stranger things have happened to get a transaction done.
Let's face it. There is zero motivation from the OPC. The only thing that OYSA has that the OPC wants is the State Cup > FWR > National Championship pathway and that worth is even debatable. The OPC has OYSA right where they want them. On the ropes. It's only a matter of time until OYSA cries uncle and the OPC will control 100% of upper level soccer in Oregon. Prediction is 1-2 years and the OPL will have everything it wants.
Meanwhile it's the OPL kids that pay the price for Oregon soccer politics in more ways than one.

Listen, OYSA isn't going away. OPC has pissed off enough folks that OYSA's resolve and support group is actually growing.

So many of OPC's folks are so myopic that all they think about is themselves. This is once again demonstrated by this poster only thinking of their OPL kids pay the price. Don't you think all kids, all parents, and soccer in our state suffer through this crappy situation OPC helped create?

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This is business ... stranger things have happened to get a transaction done.
Let's face it. There is zero motivation from the OPC. The only thing that OYSA has that the OPC wants is the State Cup > FWR > National Championship pathway and that worth is even debatable. The OPC has OYSA right where they want them. On the ropes. It's only a matter of time until OYSA cries uncle and the OPC will control 100% of upper level soccer in Oregon. Prediction is 1-2 years and the OPL will have everything it wants.
Meanwhile it's the OPL kids that pay the price for Oregon soccer politics in more ways than one.

Is it the price the OPL kids pay for soccer politics or is it the price they pay for future improvements?

Some times something needs to break before it can be fixed.

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Listen, OYSA isn't going away. OPC has pissed off enough folks that OYSA's resolve and support group is actually growing.

So many of OPC's folks are so myopic that all they think about is themselves. This is once again demonstrated by this poster only thinking of their OPL kids pay the price. Don't you think all kids, all parents, and soccer in our state suffer through this crappy situation OPC helped create?

OYSA's support group is growing?

That is why their staff is down to 3.5 and begging for teams to play in their State Cup so they can generate some income.

How do all kids and all parents in the soccer community suffer because of OPC? From what I can tell parents like the situation with OPL better then what they had at OYSA. Of course the situation is not perfect, but it is an improvement from what was done before OPL.

The complaints I hear now are mostly related to going to Medford and Bend. That is only because those Medford and Bend teams dropped out of OYSA and are part of OPL so we have to occassionally go to those areas.

Before OPL, you had one option and if you don't like it then too bad. Now you actually have a choice. Out side of the 8 OPC teams, there are over 40 other clubs who are choosing to put teams in OPL.

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Listen, OYSA isn't going away. OPC has pissed off enough folks that OYSA's resolve and support group is actually growing.

So many of OPC's folks are so myopic that all they think about is themselves. This is once again demonstrated by this poster only thinking of their OPL kids pay the price. Don't you think all kids, all parents, and soccer in our state suffer through this crappy situation OPC helped create?

Clarification: OYSA will not manage anything but recreational soccer in the state of Oregon.
You are correct OYSA as an organization is not going away. They will run Rec soccer and OPC will run upper level soccer. Sorry I thought that was implied ...

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This is business ... stranger things have happened to get a transaction done.
Let's face it. There is zero motivation from the OPC. The only thing that OYSA has that the OPC wants is the State Cup > FWR > National Championship pathway and that worth is even debatable. The OPC has OYSA right where they want them. On the ropes. It's only a matter of time until OYSA cries uncle and the OPC will control 100% of upper level soccer in Oregon. Prediction is 1-2 years and the OPL will have everything it wants.
Meanwhile it's the OPL kids that pay the price for Oregon soccer politics in more ways than one.

Prediction - OPL will be out of business in 2 years. It's model is doomed to implode. Hate OYSA all you want. Wait til OPC has a reality check about how to actually run soccer as a business.

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Prediction - OPL will be out of business in 2 years. It's model is doomed to implode. Hate OYSA all you want. Wait til OPC has a reality check about how to actually run soccer as a business.

Funny how 2 years ago someone said the same thing. Here we are 2 years later and the OPL is stronger than ever.

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Next Year Different Choices & Different System

Funny how 2 years ago someone said the same thing. Here we are 2 years later and the OPL is stronger than ever.

Next years OPL State Cup winners will NOT get a free pass to Nationals so the choice will be different. Next year the Timbers DA program and the big three will be changing completive soccer forever.

I'm not sure what ANY OPC supporter has to crow about when the teams that have been and are successful were formed and developed under the OLD system. Not until an OPL club develops a National Champion or even a consistent surf cup winner can they say they have done ANYTHING other than changed the name of who is calling the shots.

Results matter and so far they are a mixed bag with zero on field proof of improvement...Z E R O!

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Next year the Timbers DA program and the big three will be changing completive soccer forever.

Timbers DA will change competitive soccer but the Alliance won't change anything but the jersey the kid is wearing.

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Prediction - OPL will be out of business in 2 years. It's model is doomed to implode. Hate OYSA all you want. Wait til OPC has a reality check about how to actually run soccer as a business.

Hey Nostrodamus(sp?), What does it matter anyway? According to the Mayans, the world is going to end this year, so you won't have to worry. The rest of us OPLers along with the support of US CLUB SOCCER will still be kickin ass and takin names long after you and the rest of the OYSA doomsdayers have faded into oblivion. Bye Bye

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Next years OPL State Cup winners will NOT get a free pass to Nationals so the choice will be different. Next year the Timbers DA program and the big three will be changing completive soccer forever.

I'm not sure what ANY OPC supporter has to crow about when the teams that have been and are successful were formed and developed under the OLD system. Not until an OPL club develops a National Champion or even a consistent surf cup winner can they say they have done ANYTHING other than changed the name of who is calling the shots.

Results matter and so far they are a mixed bag with zero on field proof of improvement...Z E R O!

You really are stupid if you think successful teams were developed under the old "system". The teams were developed under the direction of the clubs, coaches, and DOC's.

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Another graduate of the name calling school of debate

You really are stupid if you think successful teams were developed under the old "system". The teams were developed under the direction of the clubs, coaches, and DOC's.

I guess that you think that "makes" your point about why OPC is "better" than OYSA when in reality it does just the opposite.

Yes the players are "developed" at the club level which brings up the question why are the "adults" so focused on things like control and power when they should be focused on the kids? For every hour away from their club the DOC's and particularly the President are stealing from their kids plain and simple.

If the OPL would hire outside administration to eliminate the conflicts of interest and run a professional organization we all would benefit. Until then it’s about as professional as a fantasy football league run by participants who can NEVER get away from conflicts of interest and bias.