Combine the Opl Oysa cups

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The point is that we PAY for 3 officials not 1 or 2. OPL keeps saying that they are working to train and develop new officials yet they continue to pay low wages and do not have an effective recruiting program. So in this case they are the SAME as OYSA..with their head in the sand!

You do not pay for 3 refs. You only pay for the refs that show up. They submit game reports, not to opl, buy to their assignor. Opl actually pays more to refs than oysa, because that is the contract opl set with the assignor. Also opl, oysa, do not train refs. The state ref organization has that responsibility. You jave a complaont? Call them.

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Please be consistent

You do not pay for 3 refs. You only pay for the refs that show up. They submit game reports, not to opl, buy to their assignor. Opl actually pays more to refs than oysa, because that is the contract opl set with the assignor. Also opl, oysa, do not train refs. The state ref organization has that responsibility. You jave a complaont? Call them.

#1. You can not take credit for paying more then pass the buck.

#2. You can not say OPL is better with the official scheduling and then say it's the same scheduler.

#3. Where's my "club" refund when the refs don't show?

#4. OPL is working to train & mentor the refs.

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right

OPL get it together we pay you, we want three refs figure it out.

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I don't get it.

There is so much energy on here spent condemning and excusing...it goes both ways. Some condemn OPL and excuse OYSA, some condemn OYSA and excuse OPL,over the same things.


As a customer of either organization my expectations are simple. Good Venues, 3 referees who show up on time and do a skillful job with the game. Logical and consistent unbiased schedules, and the ability for any team to play in any cup play they choose/qualify for. There is no gray on these expectations, they are met or not.

It is silly how much time is spent name calling and how little actually addresses the issues at hand. At there core the only thing separating the two
Groups is rhetoric. This comes from the history of 9 tired old men.

How important is this sport to you and your child. Is it just an excuse to go extreme, or is it worth the effort to compromise and find a real solution?

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Ramblings

There is so much energy on here spent condemning and excusing...it goes both ways. Some condemn OPL and excuse OYSA, some condemn OYSA and excuse OPL,over the same things.


As a customer of either organization my expectations are simple. Good Venues, 3 referees who show up on time and do a skillful job with the game. Logical and consistent unbiased schedules, and the ability for any team to play in any cup play they choose/qualify for. There is no gray on these expectations, they are met or not.

It is silly how much time is spent name calling and how little actually addresses the issues at hand. At there core the only thing separating the two
Groups is rhetoric. This comes from the history of 9 tired old men.

How important is this sport to you and your child. Is it just an excuse to go extreme, or is it worth the effort to compromise and find a real solution?

The problem as I see it, is most of the parents represented here today would be un-efected if a compromise and merger between OYSA and OPL were made now so they dont really care, and would rather just pitch a bitch for the rest of their supporters to see (either side). It makes em feel good to see their musing in writing. Makes em feel like they have real input talking to themselves.

Not one of the ranting parents here would ever step into their clubs office or attend a BOD meeting and voice their concerns openly like they do here hidden behind their "unregistered" status. They can pretend to be whomever they want to be and nobody will know the difference.