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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    You sound like the same crazy that use this line of reasoning to defend MJ.
    And you lack the reasoning skills to understand that the status quo is hurting soccer!

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      #17
      You are.......

      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      And you lack the reasoning skills to understand that the status quo is hurting soccer!
      You are the same dad that defend MJ for all those Red Card. No that was hurting soccer more than all the Referee's combined.

      You continue to make the Human Error the end all for this. Referee's have a impact, but not to the level of Player's and Coaches. Where is your discussion to improve Coaching or Player training. Maybe we need a Parent blog on how to improve the behavior and training of the other sideline 'Coaches'.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        You sound like the same crazy that use this line of reasoning to defend MJ.
        You have completely missed the point of his/her post. With better officials MJ and all of the coaches sent off this weekend probalby would NOT have either had a reason to complain and/or been sent off by flustered officals.

        I'm in agreement we need to do something and if it is as cheap as he/she says it is then what are we waiting for?

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          #19
          You will always find error in officiating. Every game. Always. Play through it and learn when to shut your mouth - or get tossed from the game. Otherwise, you are just making excuses.

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            #20
            Good Point but they will miss that

            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            You will always find error in officiating. Every game. Always. Play through it and learn when to shut your mouth - or get tossed from the game. Otherwise, you are just making excuses.
            They don't get that. Those coaches need to get their butts thrown out.

            Here is to granting respect to the referee. The Coaches are the blame here.

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              #21
              People also need to understand that the more you bitch and yell at refs, the less they want to officiate your games. Eventually they decide they don't want to be subject to these idiots yelling at them and quit. Then, we lose that developing official. Nothing gained and now you get another new ref officiating your game. Congratulations.

              People simply need to show more respect to others.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                You will always find error in officiating. Every game. Always. Play through it and learn when to shut your mouth - or get tossed from the game. Otherwise, you are just making excuses.
                So your answer is to make an excuse for the poor performance of the officials...priceless!

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  So your answer is to make an excuse for the poor performance of the officials...priceless!
                  Bad calls are part of every sport. You either focus on the game or you focus on other distractions (which are just excuses by the way).

                  How about we all pay triple and pay for better officials. Lord knows, little Johnny wasn't offside, right?

                  Get a grip. The greatest problem is ignorant people.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    So your answer is to make an excuse for the poor performance of the officials...priceless!
                    The point is that errors happen all over the pitch. Your little **** of a kid makes a bad pass, misses a trap, fouls someone, whatever. Maybe we should all yell at her too.

                    Or, we accept errors happen and play through them.

                    Stop making excuses.

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                      #25
                      We just came off a weekend of games and saw some of the worst officiating I have ever seen. The AR had no clue what he was doing and wouldn't make a call until the center ref did. Made judging offside and out of bounds a bit difficult. Not to mention he was never even with the defense.

                      I'm sorry but for the amount of money we pay for soccer I would expect that the officials are held accountable for their actions or lack of actions. They should at the very least know and understand the game and be able to run and keep up with the action. Human error or judgement calls will always be part of the game and that I expect. What I don't expect is a ref that purely has no idea what he is doing.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        The point is that errors happen all over the pitch. Your little **** of a kid makes a bad pass, misses a trap, fouls someone, whatever. Maybe we should all yell at her too.

                        Or, we accept errors happen and play through them.

                        Stop making excuses.
                        Very classy response.

                        The difference is our kids are continually training and trying to improve their game. Most officials are doing nothing to get better and only doing what little training is required.

                        There are without a doubt good officials out there but sadly the many bad ones ruin it for them. I'm sure the good officials don't care much for the bad ones either and wouldn't mind seeing them get more training.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          People also need to understand that the more you bitch and yell at refs, the less they want to officiate your games. Eventually they decide they don't want to be subject to these idiots yelling at them and quit. Then, we lose that developing official. Nothing gained and now you get another new ref officiating your game. Congratulations.

                          People simply need to show more respect to others.
                          How about we respect them enough to TRAIN them and PAY them to do a better job? Better trained officials EARN their respect and more money goes a long way to competing with individual interests and other employment opportunities!

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                            #28
                            How about they respect the game enough to want to train. It's pretty obvious to me that some of these refs are out there for the money only and could care less about doing a good job. Why should they when they're not held accountable for it? If they can't even make it up and down the field they should not be allowed to ref the game.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Bad calls are part of every sport. You either focus on the game or you focus on other distractions (which are just excuses by the way).

                              How about we all pay triple and pay for better officials. Lord knows, little Johnny wasn't offside, right?

                              Get a grip. The greatest problem is ignorant people.
                              I would venture to guess that you have not been watching competitive soccer for very long for if you had you would have seen many games decided by obviously bad calls and that result is not just a “distraction” for the aggrieved team. I will not go so far as to call you ignorant just in experienced.

                              I would also point out that the subject of this thread is how to IMPROVE the officials not beat up on them. What the original poster outlined seems reasonable and unbelievably cheap. Would you NOT be willing to pay $30 more per year for better officiating? I’d be willing to pay $100 more if we could get the quality of officiating we get during State Cup!

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Bad calls are part of every sport. You either focus on the game or you focus on other distractions (which are just excuses by the way).

                                How about we all pay triple and pay for better officials. Lord knows, little Johnny wasn't offside, right?

                                Get a grip. The greatest problem is ignorant people.
                                Name another profession where the level of performance being discussed would be tolerated?........jeopardy theme music......What is NONE Alex...correct!

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