Oysa state cup

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Not recruited, I can attest to that. Developed, yes, 100 times yes. The best experience for my girls yet! Worth the drive, time and money. We wouldn't of traded this year for anything. It might not be the right fit for everyone, and what Salem has to offer is great for a lot of kids, especially kids with other time commitments, the drive would be tough, but we are very happy with our move. Sorry that everyone else has to find a conspiracy in it. THUSC has been great, and except for the drama on this site, for the first time in our girls soccer,experience, we have been drama free at our club this year, thanks THUSC families, it has been awesome! We are looking forward to the upcoming year.

When your best players are given a free ride and all there is left is not that great. It is an easy move to make. If you just can convince the best to mover then the rest will follow. Use any manner to recruit, it does not matter. May not look like recruiting, but you jut don't know the whole story. It is the modus operandi of that certain club. It happens time and time again but you are all following the pied pipper like a bunch of lemmings

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When your best players are given a free ride and all there is left is not that great. It is an easy move to make. If you just can convince the best to mover then the rest will follow. Use any manner to recruit, it does not matter. May not look like recruiting, but you jut don't know the whole story. It is the modus operandi of that certain club. It happens time and time again but you are all following the pied pipper like a bunch of lemmings

Well like most of the negative Nellie’s here on talking soccer Oregon you don't know what the hell you are talking about. Most of the best THUSC players are not only paying 100% of their fees but they are ALSO paying an additional $'s a week for private or group training in addition to the club fee. Why are they doing that and why are some of them driving 100's of extra miles a week???? C O A C H I N G and the chance to play with B E T T E R players. Sorry if that hurts but that's just the way it is!

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When your best players are given a free ride and all there is left is not that great. It is an easy move to make. If you just can convince the best to mover then the rest will follow. Use any manner to recruit, it does not matter. May not look like recruiting, but you jut don't know the whole story. It is the modus operandi of that certain club. It happens time and time again but you are all following the pied pipper like a bunch of lemmings

Your right we don't know the whole story. We can't wait to hear more. When do you think you will finish this fiction story you keep giving us pieces of?

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The weird thing about the way people like to bash other clubs and programs and try to tear others down is that they may not even have a dog in the fight. Really odd. I thought this was a state cup discussion.

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Well like most of the negative Nellie’s here on talking soccer Oregon you don't know what the hell you are talking about. Most of the best THUSC players are not only paying 100% of their fees but they are ALSO paying an additional $'s a week for private or group training in addition to the club fee. Why are they doing that and why are some of them driving 100's of extra miles a week???? C O A C H I N G and the chance to play with B E T T E R players. Sorry if that hurts but that's just the way it is!

C O A C H I N G ? ? ? ?

Sorry, but I am looking around the club right now. Where are all of these coaches? Seems many have left. Is the exalted one at the top going to coach every team? Weren't almost all of those seeking private training doing so with coaches who are no longer there?

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C O A C H I N G ? ? ? ?

Sorry, but I am looking around the club right now. Where are all of these coaches? Seems many have left. Is the exalted one at the top going to coach every team? Weren't almost all of those seeking private training doing so with coaches who are no longer there?

There are many good coaches at THUSC and many young, new coaches. MJ was fired, Janine left to coach the Rain, and Gaff left because he wanted to coach girls. Coaches move on for better opportunities all the time. It's nothing new. Look at many of the WSM girls. They seek private training from coaches that are not even associated with their club. It's common practice. Current U13G will keep the same coach they had last season so yes the Salem girls will still have an excellent C O A C H!

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Do that many players do private training?

I am actually surprised. I guess I didn't realize everyone was doing private training too. Is it because there is not enough training at the club or is it just personal preference? Where do you find the time .... and money??

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I am actually surprised. I guess I didn't realize everyone was doing private training too. Is it because there is not enough training at the club or is it just personal preference? Where do you find the time .... and money??

I'm more surprised that you are surprised!

Let’s review: Most Premier clubs only practice 3 times a week, one of which might be fitness training, leaving two additional days available to work on individual technical skills.

Yes it costs money but this extra work is how coaches determine who is dedicated to the sport and which parents are committed to helping their child reach their potential and that translates into MORE playing time than they would get otherwise. I have seen players who were on the fringe of their teams make dramatic improvements in their skills and game awareness via private training and move into the starting line up!

Compare this time commitment with high school sports where there are games and practice 5 days a week.

If clubs practiced like school teams and had multiple assistants to work individually with each player then private sessions would not be necessary but since that would require finding more qualified coaches to be available AT THE SAME TIME it is not a possibility here in Oregon.

I would recommend it to any parent of a child who loves the sport regardless of the playing time they are getting because as they get older the physical differences fade away leaving only the playes skill set to separate them from each other.

As for the money there are always arrangements that can be worked out.

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I'm more surprised that you are surprised!

Let’s review: Most Premier clubs only practice 3 times a week, one of which might be fitness training, leaving two additional days available to work on individual technical skills.

Yes it costs money but this extra work is how coaches determine who is dedicated to the sport and which parents are committed to helping their child reach their potential and that translates into MORE playing time than they would get otherwise. I have seen players who were on the fringe of their teams make dramatic improvements in their skills and game awareness via private training and move into the starting line up!

Compare this time commitment with high school sports where there are games and practice 5 days a week.

If clubs practiced like school teams and had multiple assistants to work individually with each player then private sessions would not be necessary but since that would require finding more qualified coaches to be available AT THE SAME TIME it is not a possibility here in Oregon.

I would recommend it to any parent of a child who loves the sport regardless of the playing time they are getting because as they get older the physical differences fade away leaving only the playes skill set to separate them from each other.

As for the money there are always arrangements that can be worked out.

I don't think private training is the only way to accomplish this. I know plenty of kids who just get out and play on their days off or train on their own. They have the coach show them some things and then get off their butts and work on it by themselves or with team mates.

Private training is good and I can see the need for it on occassion but nothing beats just getting out and playing. Look around the world and see how the best players became the best.

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I am actually surprised. I guess I didn't realize everyone was doing private training too. Is it because there is not enough training at the club or is it just personal preference? Where do you find the time .... and money??

I am shocked as well. I had no idea so many of the kids from our club private train. It's getting to the point that if you don't private train you're not in the norm. What happened to going to the park and kicking the ball around with your friends?

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What happened to going to the park and kicking the ball around with your friends?

I think they call that recreational soccer . . . or maybe kid's birthday party.

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I think they call that recreational soccer . . . or maybe kid's birthday party.

I guess you should tell that to Messi, Ronaldinho, Marta, etc. Google them and see how they trained when they were younger. Kids will learn more by playing pick up games with their friends then private training every week. Most of my kids friends play club soccer so there is no rec involved.

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Interesting

I think we have done maybe 5 or 6 private trainings when my daughter was younger. I don't know that she would benefit that greatly from it as she needs to rest some too. She still has a life in spite of all the club, ODP, regional yada yada stuff. She keeps fit though doing track, running, working out and all that. It hasn't seemed to hurt her yet not doing private training. I was surprised because I didn't even think that it was that prevelant. I don't think most of the highest level players do it, as none of the players we are familiar with do.

So, in order to get playing time there are clubs that are requiring private training? Do you have to train with specific coaches? If so, I would question that policy. Playing time has never been an issue for us as she plays almost 100% of the time.

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So many Kids?

I am shocked as well. I had no idea so many of the kids from our club private train. It's getting to the point that if you don't private train you're not in the norm. What happened to going to the park and kicking the ball around with your friends?

I doubt that more than a handful of players actually hire private trainers. Its really more of "my child is special" than an actual requirement. THAT IS IF THE TEAM COACH AND ASSISTANT ARE GOOD, SOUND COACHES.

1. You can often tell which players go to a certain private coach, one in the Portland area turns out little clones. Not necessarily good clones, but obvious and predictable.
2. If a player really works and concentrates in practice AND games, I'm not sure private training is necessary unless for some special problem.
3. Coaches don't base commitment on private coaching, rather what they see in practice and games.
4. Some coaches and DOC's dislike school track participation. Primary reason given is overuse injuries and time away from their practices/games. I think this is odd since private training does fall under the category of overuse injuries. Plus, track in on the resume of many, many D-1 players. Additionally, track rarely, if ever, conflicts.
5. If you need additional touches during the week, working out with friends is an excellent idea. Comparing our children with world players that often were only able to play/practice non-stop due to their poverty is not an appropriate comparison.
6. Remember, the best activity players can do other than scheduled club soccer activities is academics. You can't play real college soccer and not be an excellent student.

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I think we have done maybe 5 or 6 private trainings when my daughter was younger. I don't know that she would benefit that greatly from it as she needs to rest some too. She still has a life in spite of all the club, ODP, regional yada yada stuff. She keeps fit though doing track, running, working out and all that. It hasn't seemed to hurt her yet not doing private training. I was surprised because I didn't even think that it was that prevelant. I don't think most of the highest level players do it, as none of the players we are familiar with do.

So, in order to get playing time there are clubs that are requiring private training? Do you have to train with specific coaches? If so, I would question that policy. Playing time has never been an issue for us as she plays almost 100% of the time.

Private training with the right coach at the right time is invaluable. Private training with any coach and for no real reason other than to improve is pointless. Not one of the major clubs in the OPL has a rule of requiring players to get personal trainer.

There are not enough quality coaches in Oregon. There are a lot of strong coaches, but not enough to have 2 quality coaches per team. This would allow the more personal development for players and would eliminate the need for having a personal trainer. 2-4 coaches on a youth team would be perfect. This is a system that is not normal in the NW (partly due to availability and finances).

I could list a ton of the top players in the state from all different age groups and all different clubs that are training with personal trainers. This is becoming more and more common as the competition in the state has increased.