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    #46
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Or you can just play at Keizer and pay equally high rates to get a parent coach who teaches the fine art of "kick and chase" soccer and screams the whole game. This was the claim to fame of the Keizer "Hotshot" teams throughout Oregon.
    Come on coach you pay twice the amount at cfc. You pay dues twice a year rather than once. How else can they afford the best facilities in the state and all you pro coaches. If we play kick and chase then what did you have your U12 team doing? Duck and cover while you get rolled? Guess it hurts when parent volunteers beat a paid coach like that. If you can't turn around a team in oysa this year maybe you should look into some kinder kick opportunities I'm sure someone would pay big at that age to learn how to play the game beautifully from a keeper.

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      #47
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Come on coach you pay twice the amount at cfc. You pay dues twice a year rather than once. How else can they afford the best facilities in the state and all you pro coaches. If we play kick and chase then what did you have your U12 team doing? Duck and cover while you get rolled? Guess it hurts when parent volunteers beat a paid coach like that. If you can't turn around a team in oysa this year maybe you should look into some kinder kick opportunities I'm sure someone would pay big at that age to learn how to play the game beautifully from a keeper.
      Wow, I hope you sell insurance not accounting according to http://www.keizersoccerclub.org/home.php?layout=3223 the fees for a U-11 player are $844. CFC's fees are $895. The $895 can be paid once a year or it can be paid on a payment plan.

      THUSC, LO, and WSM for example will charge closer to $1300. So try to get your details correct. I guess I would rather pay the $51 extra and have a professional coach insteaf of a parent coach.

      At u12 it may not matter that Keizer teams have no focus on skill building, and instead are about size, eventually the skilled teams will win out.

      I guess speaking logic to someone who doesn't understand basic math may be a loss.

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        #48
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Wow, I hope you sell insurance not accounting according to http://www.keizersoccerclub.org/home.php?layout=3223 the fees for a U-11 player are $844. CFC's fees are $895. The $895 can be paid once a year or it can be paid on a payment plan.

        THUSC, LO, and WSM for example will charge closer to $1300. So try to get your details correct. I guess I would rather pay the $51 extra and have a professional coach insteaf of a parent coach.

        At u12 it may not matter that Keizer teams have no focus on skill building, and instead are about size, eventually the skilled teams will win out.

        I guess speaking logic to someone who doesn't understand basic math may be a loss.
        Actually we do train with a professional trainer and I feel she is excellent at developing my daughters skill. Plus she would never get on this website and bad mouth any clubs approach or say a team that showed mercy and beat us by 10 that they have no skill and are just big. Actually we are bigger and more skilled, I hope you do develop your players into a strong team I really do. If by developing talent you mean recruiting players from keizer to cfc I have noticed you do have success there at times. Not sure why someone would go there from extreme to olympia to play oysa for that rec team but hey I guess you can cut a few players who donated there $ to make room and have a great rec team.

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          #49
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Wow, I hope you sell insurance not accounting according to http://www.keizersoccerclub.org/home.php?layout=3223 the fees for a U-11 player are $844. CFC's fees are $895. The $895 can be paid once a year or it can be paid on a payment plan.

          THUSC, LO, and WSM for example will charge closer to $1300. So try to get your details correct. I guess I would rather pay the $51 extra and have a professional coach insteaf of a parent coach.

          At u12 it may not matter that Keizer teams have no focus on skill building, and instead are about size, eventually the skilled teams will win out.

          I guess speaking logic to someone who doesn't understand basic math may be a loss.
          $895 for rec no thanks I will stick with $1300. There they have tryouts and you have to make the team A or B. CFC and Keizer will take your money if you show up. Quit telling kids they are playing premier soccer.

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            #50
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Actually we do train with a professional trainer and I feel she is excellent at developing my daughters skill. Plus she would never get on this website and bad mouth any clubs approach or say a team that showed mercy and beat us by 10 that they have no skill and are just big. Actually we are bigger and more skilled, I hope you do develop your players into a strong team I really do. If by developing talent you mean recruiting players from keizer to cfc I have noticed you do have success there at times. Not sure why someone would go there from extreme to olympia to play oysa for that rec team but hey I guess you can cut a few players who donated there $ to make room and have a great rec team.
            Very classy! Your family must be proud.

            Yes, Keizer does have a very good trainer but she is not the coach. She trains the teams for 90 minutes per week. Parents don't make great coaches in the majority of situations. I'd rather pay a little extra to get a quality coach and I'm not just talking about the two u12 girls teams that you are talking about.

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              #51
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              $895 for rec no thanks I will stick with $1300. There they have tryouts and you have to make the team A or B. CFC and Keizer will take your money if you show up. Quit telling kids they are playing premier soccer.
              Thanks for the tip! Anything else I should be telling my child to ensure there is no self confidence grown while participating in youth sports? How often should I remind my child they are not playing premier soccer? After they beat the premier team? After they win directors cup, was that the opportune moment to let her know?

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                #52
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Actually we do train with a professional trainer and I feel she is excellent at developing my daughters skill. Plus she would never get on this website and bad mouth any clubs approach or say a team that showed mercy and beat us by 10 that they have no skill and are just big. Actually we are bigger and more skilled, I hope you do develop your players into a strong team I really do. If by developing talent you mean recruiting players from keizer to cfc I have noticed you do have success there at times. Not sure why someone would go there from extreme to olympia to play oysa for that rec team but hey I guess you can cut a few players who donated there $ to make room and have a great rec team.
                So you think I am the coach, well that shows a lot about how much you really understand. I am only a parent who has watched this silly battle go back and forth between CFC and Keizer (really with only a couple of teams ), and has ended up splitting what could be a very talented team into two teams that do not measure up to what they could be. Congratulations to the Keizer girls, but don't let it go to your head it will take more than some size and big legs to win anything at regionals. I don't have girls, and really only observe what they do as a sideshow, but I think it is unfortunate that because Keizer prevailed in a very thin field they are going to think what they are doing is validated.

                So you understand the world you are playing in. $835 at KSC bus you a professional who does skill training once a week with each team, and a Parent coach. $895 at CFC buys you a full-time professional coach, as well as fitneess resources etc... as available. $1300 at THUSC apparently buys you two full time coaches, an ex-military fitness instructor, and a team psychiatrist.

                Know what you are buying. If you are happy with your world be happy, but don't delude yourself into thinking you are some super team.

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                  #53
                  Correction

                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Actually we do train with a professional trainer and I feel she is excellent at developing my daughters skill. Plus she would never get on this website and bad mouth any clubs approach or say a team that showed mercy and beat us by 10 that they have no skill and are just big. Actually we are bigger and more skilled, I hope you do develop your players into a strong team I really do. If by developing talent you mean recruiting players from keizer to cfc I have noticed you do have success there at times. Not sure why someone would go there from extreme to olympia to play oysa for that rec team but hey I guess you can cut a few players who donated there $ to make room and have a great rec team.

                  Its ok all the Salem players on the girls side get recruited to Thusc along with their coach. It is a nice net package.
                  Then Thusc can claim to have developed them.... see how that works

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Its ok all the Salem players on the girls side get recruited to Thusc along with their coach. It is a nice net package.
                    Then Thusc can claim to have developed them.... see how that works
                    It always come back to this doesn't it. Even when the topic or thread has nothing to do with anything, someone always has to try to pull thusc into it in a bad light. Unbelievable.

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Its ok all the Salem players on the girls side get recruited to Thusc along with their coach. It is a nice net package.
                      Then Thusc can claim to have developed them.... see how that works
                      Recruited!!!! Now that is funny!! Is that how the story went. Or was that made up in your own little world.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        So you think I am the coach, well that shows a lot about how much you really understand. I am only a parent who has watched this silly battle go back and forth between CFC and Keizer (really with only a couple of teams ), and has ended up splitting what could be a very talented team into two teams that do not measure up to what they could be. Congratulations to the Keizer girls, but don't let it go to your head it will take more than some size and big legs to win anything at regionals. I don't have girls, and really only observe what they do as a sideshow, but I think it is unfortunate that because Keizer prevailed in a very thin field they are going to think what they are doing is validated.

                        So you understand the world you are playing in. $835 at KSC bus you a professional who does skill training once a week with each team, and a Parent coach. $895 at CFC buys you a full-time professional coach, as well as fitneess resources etc... as available. $1300 at THUSC apparently buys you two full time coaches, an ex-military fitness instructor, and a team psychiatrist.

                        Know what you are buying. If you are happy with your world be happy, but don't delude yourself into thinking you are some super team.
                        I don't remember anyone saying they were a super team, we all remember Beaverton cup vs. THUSC as was pointed out earlier. What is it exactly we are validating that is so unfortunate? Anyone going to regionals from Oregon is a bad draw away from three games and headed home. Last years U-12, Crush was outscored 12-1 in three games. Why is there so much vitriol between these clubs (calling 12 year old girls a sideshow...really). We have always been at KSC so I guess I don't know. I never even heard about another Salem club until comp.

                        My daughter is happy playing with her friends and likes the coaches. Yes I'm certain she could get better coaching or whatever in Portland but she is in the 6th grade! Having fun and developing adequate skill for her age and maturation is perfect for her and so its great with me. If she was the next worlds best player and didn't want to participate in school activities and other sports I'm not sure I would be willing to drive up their until 8th or 9th grade. I will say congrats to all the winners and wish them all luck without comments of delusion or other nonsense.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          It always come back to this doesn't it. Even when the topic or thread has nothing to do with anything, someone always has to try to pull thusc into it in a bad light. Unbelievable.
                          Where there is smoke there is fire?

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Where there is smoke there is fire?
                            Oh brother, move on.

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Oh brother, move on.
                              You are right, people and parents come up with this stuff based on absolutely nothing. THUSC is really the innocent victim in all this.

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                                #60
                                Ridiculous

                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Its ok all the Salem players on the girls side get recruited to Thusc along with their coach. It is a nice net package.
                                Then Thusc can claim to have developed them.... see how that works
                                Not recruited, I can attest to that. Developed, yes, 100 times yes. The best experience for my girls yet! Worth the drive, time and money. We wouldn't of traded this year for anything. It might not be the right fit for everyone, and what Salem has to offer is great for a lot of kids, especially kids with other time commitments, the drive would be tough, but we are very happy with our move. Sorry that everyone else has to find a conspiracy in it. THUSC has been great, and except for the drama on this site, for the first time in our girls soccer experience, we have been drama free at our club this year, thanks THUSC families, it has been awesome! We are looking forward to the upcoming year.

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