98 Girls ODP Tryouts

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So I agree with many of your ideas (out of town evaluators, scouting 1st round invitees supplemental tryouts, etc..) but each of which will cost more money to accomplish. Money that will be collected from even fewer potential participants.

Maybe just the idea of an evaluator not coaching same gender or within 3 years of age would help initially ?

We all know that there are those players out there playing in obscure leagues on teams that just dont get noticed that are far and above the rest of the talent on their team at the younger ages. These player are sometimes not even seen without tryouts. The regionalized tryout process does allow as many players as possible to attend.

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Maybe maybe not. I am sure all of your answers are true, but since the regionalization of the program there have been less and less of the top players trying out, so I think that is interesting and should be noted. The thing about it that when you have too many top players choosing not to play the players that would not make it are now in the pool. This becomes problematic because these parents then LOVE the program and do not strive for change thus frustrating the few left at the top. This cycle could ruin the program.

Your saying that there are players out there that think (and maybe are) better then rest and they know it, so thats why they dont tryout ?

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Your saying that there are players out there that think (and maybe are) better then rest and they know it, so thats why they dont tryout ?

No, not what I am saying at all. I am saying that since the program has been changed there are less of the top players trying out, thus the experience is not what the 96/96 agegroup is getting. I am curious if it is simply a sign of the times or a reflection of a different attitude towards ODP...

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No, not what I am saying at all. I am saying that since the program has been changed there are less of the top players trying out, thus the experience is not what the 96/96 age group is getting. I am curious if it is simply a sign of the times or a reflection of a different attitude towards ODP...

Ok. Like I mentioned in another post, there could be a multitude of reasons why a top player in our state is not participating. The world will NEVER really know (just like how many licks it really takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop).

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Ok. Like I mentioned in another post, there could be a multitude of reasons why a top player in our state is not participating. The world will NEVER really know (just like how many licks it really takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop).

Yes but I agree with the other poster that there are less and less kids trying out for ODP since it has been regionalized. I would of thought the opposite. For some reason '96 was our last strong group.

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Yes but I agree with the other poster that there are less and less kids trying out for ODP since it has been regionalized. I would of thought the opposite. For some reason '96 was our last strong group.

Thank You.. Maybe I wasn't being clear to the other poster. The question is why is it different now? (less now) Still could be any reason, but when you try a different product and lose some of your best and brightest it is worth asking the question.

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both of you are wrong on the tryout numbers.

3 year ago when the 96's (which included 97's) had their first tryouts there were 135 girls (all at Wilsonville HS). The first year of the 97's in Portland alone they had 115, plus Eugene, Medford and Bend. There were like 250 total.

The 98's had over 200 total statewide tryout this year.

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both of you are wrong on the tryout numbers.

3 year ago when the 96's (which included 97's) had their first tryouts there were 135 girls (all at Wilsonville HS). The first year of the 97's in Portland alone they had 115, plus Eugene, Medford and Bend. There were like 250 total.

The 98's had over 200 total statewide tryout this year.

Why was the '97 try out in Portland so low this year? I believe they cut less than 10 players. There were ALOT of '99's at the '98 try out so that boosted the numbers.

It's more about the quality that try out then the quantity. I fear for the '99 age group after they experienced the '98's.

I hope the numbers continue to climb but I really hope things change in the selection process. I agree that there are some talented kids in Portland that got cut because of the numbers game. These players could of gone to Eugene and easily beat out a lot of those kids there. If you want the best talent then regionalizing it is not helping. You cut some good kids in Portland and kept some less talented kids from other regions.

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Why was the '97 try out in Portland so low this year? I believe they cut less than 10 players. There were ALOT of '99's at the '98 try out so that boosted the numbers.

natural progression as they get older. There were 60+ at the Portland tryouts with no 98's in there. probably be the same for the 98's next year.

only 35 I think were selected from the 97's in Portland. That number is now down to 27 or 28 now.

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60+ is stretching it. I didn't see nearly that many there and the level of talent was way down. For some reason the top talent from that age group chose not to attend this year.

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Why was the '97 try out in Portland so low this year? I believe they cut less than 10 players. There were ALOT of '99's at the '98 try out so that boosted the numbers.

It's more about the quality that try out then the quantity. I fear for the '99 age group after they experienced the '98's.

I hope the numbers continue to climb but I really hope things change in the selection process. I agree that there are some talented kids in Portland that got cut because of the numbers game. These players could of gone to Eugene and easily beat out a lot of those kids there. If you want the best talent then regionalizing it is not helping. You cut some good kids in Portland and kept some less talented kids from other regions.

Not sure I understand your reasoning. If 36 kids make it from the Portland area (to the Eugene tournament) how are some of the best kids not making it (assuming selection is fair in Portland)? Surely on the state teams before regionalization, there were at least a few from outside Portland so those 36 would be more than would have been on the final 40 for the state pool before regionalization?

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Ok here is an idea -

You have ID camps/tryouts in areas of the state outside of the Portland Metro area run by ODP staff.

You do the same in the Portland metro area.

From these events you offer invites to the top players to attend the age group tryout at a choosen venue (probably Portland?)

At this tryout coaches now have hand picked/selected players to choose from. There would be balanced teams and depth in every playing position. No complaints of players being on 'weaker' teams and not getting a fair shot.

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Ok here is an idea -

You have ID camps/tryouts in areas of the state outside of the Portland Metro area run by ODP staff.

You do the same in the Portland metro area.

From these events you offer invites to the top players to attend the age group tryout at a choosen venue (probably Portland?)

At this tryout coaches now have hand picked/selected players to choose from. There would be balanced teams and depth in every playing position. No complaints of players being on 'weaker' teams and not getting a fair shot.

I like it!

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Because the Portland pool will only take around 45 of the 115 kids that try out. Of those 70 or so cut from the pool are going to be players that easily would of made it in the Eugene, Bend, etc pools. But yet they're cut because of the regional idea. If they had traveled to Eugene then they'd be in the pool, they'd have a chance to be on the roster for the Eugene tournament and they'd have a shot at being on the state pool.

What I don't get is why does Portland take only 42 but Eugene will take 27? There were around 115 trying out for Portland and around 40 for Eugene. Makes no sense. I have no doubt more and more Portland kids will travel to Eugene for an easier shot of making it in years to come.

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why did the Portland pool only pick 3-4 forwards?