OCYS Consolidated Thread

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Seriously, this is all just childish.
Why does the stalker care so much about these guys (JT/PF) and this glorified recreational youth soccer program. Don't you all have more important things to focus on in you life?

No we don't

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Other than cutting training time for older boys and girls purple teams, now we hear they are not paying for Coaches league games travel and per diem. Is this true? Can some one confirm? How the coach is supposed to get this paid?

I call BS on the above post. Every team my kid has been on and every club he has been at has had the teams pay coaches travel costs. NOT the club. This is over and above the normal fees for the club. If some coach is not being paid per diem and travel costs then this is the fault of the team and not the club.

In the past every team we've been on at FSA, CFK and OCYS paid these costs.

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something is wrong, we are not listed and we won our bracket.

Winning bracket means nothing unless you ended up champ or finalists. Go to CASL instead if you can and let your daughter enjoy her New Years Eve at home with her friends.

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I call BS on the above post. Every team my kid has been on and every club he has been at has had the teams pay coaches travel costs. NOT the club. This is over and above the normal fees for the club. If some coach is not being paid per diem and travel costs then this is the fault of the team and not the club.

In the past every team we've been on at FSA, CFK and OCYS paid these costs.

We know league and tournaments costs are different. Our teams paid for tournament costs, not league games.

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Is SR balls less? How GB can manipulate and allowed to ruin happiness of so many families and coaches ?

The u13 white team is doing fine, love the coach, don't try and start ****e there. You do know that they other teams below u13 have 2 teams training 3 nights a week. Frankly, why is it a problem for you if these younger teams get more training? It has never really happened before, it must scare you what it might produce.

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We do agree more training is required for all. We believe those GB /CM teams should get 4 days. All other teams should also get minimum 3 days and 4th optional for either skills or SAQ (based on team level evaluation)
We also believe Boys and Girls should be treated equally for training opportunities.

What OCYS has done:
1. cut training to each and everyone in the club- compared to what we used to get at EOS, CFU, Kraze/Krush, FCA....probably every club.
2. FEEs have been increased
3. League costs and coaches league game costs are transferred to team accounts
4. Records show they WILL NOT pick from PERPLE OR any lower teams for ECNL or DA
- that is because they effectively destroyed those kids growth potential by denying training opportunities

Then few teams under SELECT Highly PAID Coaches are looking good by showing 3 days training compared to other teams 2 days. Reality is they have reduced from 4 days to 3 for few and
reduced 4 days to 2 for every other team at same level!

The u13 white team is doing fine, love the coach, don't try and start ****e there. You do know that they other teams below u13 have 2 teams training 3 nights a week. Frankly, why is it a problem for you if these younger teams get more training? It has never really happened before, it must scare you what it might produce.

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Here is a list of the teams and their practice schedule. http://www.orlandocityyouth.org/Acad...s/index_E.html
There may be a couple of teams whose coach has scheduled a 3rd practice but those are few and far between. Older teams will be on break starting sometime in October till January or February when High School is over. During that time they are still expected to compete in Showcase and other tournaments. And please no one come on here and tell us how great high school soccer season and training is.

I filtered and sorted that list. It shows U-9 thru U-12 Boys purple teams (GB and CM) having 3 times per week practices.
All other teams have 2 practices, including Purple Girls teams at same age level.

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;1366553]We do agree more training is required for all. We believe those GB /CM teams should get 4 days. All other teams should also get minimum 3 days and 4th optional for either skills or SAQ (based on team level evaluation)
We also believe Boys and Girls should be treated equally for training opportunities.

What OCYS has done:
1. cut training to each and everyone in the club- compared to what we used to get at EOS, CFU, Kraze/Krush, FCA....probably every club.
2. FEEs have been increased
3. League costs and coaches league game costs are transferred to team accounts
4. Records show they WILL NOT pick from PERPLE OR any lower teams for ECNL or DA
- that is because they effectively destroyed those kids growth potential by denying training opportunities

Then few teams under SELECT Highly PAID Coaches are looking good by showing 3 days training compared to other teams 2 days. Reality is they have reduced from 4 days to 3 for few and
reduced 4 days to 2 for every other team at same level!


This is our general observation/speculation:

They have at least 6 (not sure of this number, can be more) full time DOC and Coaches. Some of them do not even come out to the fields.
If you just look at their resume, that indicates they must be fools not to get paid anywhere between 80K upwards....
80K x 6 = 480K. This is the problem. No wonder OC has to fund them.

Money and pay is not our issue. Our issue is getting under-served for our dollar spent!!!

The least easy remedy is for these DOCs to come out and start training the kids on more days.

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There are basically 2 teams at each age group for the boys getting 3 nights a week from u9- u13, is t that what you are saying for the boys? The girls on the other hand don't get that training.......

That is BS - the second team U-13 only get 2 nights per week....EVERYTHING is reserved for the top team of GB....what a waste he is and how he treats the other boys. Like they are beneath him

We are very happy with our team and our coach and have not been treated badly by anyone at OC. If you have a problem you should go talk to the coach.

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WOW... you guys make REAL SOCCER PARENTS look and sound stupid...at U9-U13 you think the kids get BETTER because of club practice? It's on their own, I bet they don't even watch soccer on TV. How many soccer balls are in your home? Take the electronics from them and tell them to go and kick the soccer ball!!!
Keep blaming the Club and the Coaches for your kids shortcomings, do you blame a teacher if your student isn't doing good in school or do you HELP your kid yourself?...

Club practice most of the time is for TEAM training, Get better on your OWN...

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WOW... you guys make REAL SOCCER PARENTS look and sound stupid...at U9-U13 you think the kids get BETTER because of club practice? It's on their own, I bet they don't even watch soccer on TV. How many soccer balls are in your home? Take the electronics from them and tell them to go and kick the soccer ball!!!
Keep blaming the Club and the Coaches for your kids shortcomings, do you blame a teacher if your student isn't doing good in school or do you HELP your kid yourself?...

Club practice most of the time is for TEAM training, Get better on your OWN...

The better kids are probably watching a lot of soccer but I also we these kids playing at the Field either before of after their practice with the other kids (boys and girls) from other teams they just play around, fun games, but they play, then they practice then they play. Maybe they have older or younger siblings that allow them the time to stay at the fields longer but this is what I observe.

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Seriously, this is all just childish.
Why does the stalker care so much about these guys (JT/PF) and this glorified recreational youth soccer program. Don't you all have more important things to focus on in you life?

The real question is why do YOU care about any of this since all of this drama and the club itself is beneath your lordship. You're more pathetic than the FC FL Stalker (and that's really saying something ... about you). At least the FC FL Stalker obviously believes that he has been grievously wronged by the club and/or management. Whereas, you're just a sanctimonious intermeddler who feels compelled to officiously sit in judgment of others and things that do not concern you whatsoever. You have less of a life than the FC FL Stalker. At least he has a (perceived) dog in this fight; you're just a finger-wagging bore. So the REAL question is don't YOU have more important things to focus on in YOUR life? Get a hobby other than trolling TS threads.

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WOW... you guys make REAL SOCCER PARENTS look and sound stupid...at U9-U13 you think the kids get BETTER because of club practice? It's on their own, I bet they don't even watch soccer on TV. How many soccer balls are in your home? Take the electronics from them and tell them to go and kick the soccer ball!!!
Keep blaming the Club and the Coaches for your kids shortcomings, do you blame a teacher if your student isn't doing good in school or do you HELP your kid yourself?...

Club practice most of the time is for TEAM training, Get better on your OWN...

Schools have FCAT for a reason and that is why schools are ranked and evaluated.

If Club Practice is not expected to improve kids, clubs should close down and open our facilities for free access to all kids. Yes we can play on our own and improve in some skills, but this is USA and everything is controlled through CAPITALISM. Hence we are forced to work with the system.

Issue is smarter business guys come and steal our public funds and build their empire. Do it, but give back to our kids/community, don't steal with un-acceptable unfair practices!

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This weekend is the first time I have been at the Seminole fields in a while, wow are they going down hill. You can tell that they haven't been taking care of them like they used to. Weeds are taking over in some areas and other areas there are patches of no grass. It's starting to look like it did a few years ago. Even the two fields all the way to the back right that were about perfect a year ago now are looking sad.

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The real question is why do YOU care about any of this since all of this drama and the club itself is beneath your lordship. You're more pathetic than the FC FL Stalker (and that's really saying something ... about you). At least the FC FL Stalker obviously believes that he has been grievously wronged by the club and/or management. Whereas, you're just a sanctimonious intermeddler who feels compelled to officiously sit in judgment of others and things that do not concern you whatsoever. You have less of a life than the FC FL Stalker. At least he has a (perceived) dog in this fight; you're just a finger-wagging bore. So the REAL question is don't YOU have more important things to focus on in YOUR life? Get a hobby other than trolling TS threads.

ouch, thats gotta burn

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We now have MLS who cares about youth soccer! The DA is run by the pro club so any success they have can no longer be claimed by OCYS and ECNL is nothing but a headache with all the drama that seems to follow it. The younger boys are lead by 2 men that seem to have caused friction with many in town and all thoughout the club there are parents not satisfied with training opportunities and special privileges granted to few. Good times at Seminole Complex for sure so who cares about quality of the fields as we have MLS!