OCYS Consolidated Thread

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If it is OK for FKK to start a new club and have practices and games at Central Winds, is it OK for OC to start a new rec program that will have practices and games within 15 miles of the other clubs in the Coalition?

Read page two of your two-page website. Seriously? You take this fight to TS and don't even understand what the fight is about? Talk about a mob mentality. Go ahead and burn a cross at SSC will ya?

OC is not starting a rec program for their club. They are providing free soccer instruction and games to poor kids that live in the area. You know, the poor kids who can't afford your club. The poor kids who have never played soccer and do not show any potential to be on your premier competitive team. The time they requested is exclusive to their commitment to provide free soccer to poor children that will never be dues paying members of a soccer club. They are not interested in taking over your club and they could not care less about who gets time on the new fields that they are helping to maintain. They simply want to be able to meet their obligation to provide soccer outreach to children who do not have, nor will ever be able to afford, a youth soccer program.

By the way Coalition member, you do know the local YMCA does the same thing right? You do know, "no person is turned away due to inability to pay" is the YMCA mantra? I don't hear Coalition members talking about infringement by the local YMCAs on their 15-mile zone. I have not heard of an objection about providing free soccer to poor kids? Could it be that local clubs could care less about poor kids playing starter soccer at the local YMCA? Well, why do you care if OC provides the same thing?

When you look at it for what it truly is, you really have to conclude it is much ado about nothing. If you want to reach out to the poor and teach them soccer, nothing is holding you back and I am sure Commissioner Jacobs will be thrilled for you to step up and help grow soccer in the community free of charge. Still waiting for that announcement...

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Listen idiot, where you practice and what your 'home' field are two different things. Obviously Seminole Complex is designated as OCYS's home fields yet OCYS also trains at Central Winds and many other fields in Central Florida. So are you suggesting OCYS is breaking rules by not training at their home fields as you are also training within a 15 mile radius of Maitland? You are simply interested in bringing down a club and don't care about any collateral damage that comes with it. Why you are so eager to potentially take away soccer from kids is beyond me. Oh, let me guess your retort, you're providing free soccer to disadvantaged kids so the good outweights the bad.

Of course Shane Kelly is your "home field". Why many soccer clubs designate parks that hold only 3 soccer fields and have a sliver of parking as their "home field". Explain again how you were going to fit all those competitive and rec programs on 3 soccer fields? That is the farce. Just like the Maitland Player Passes. A total fabrication to skirt the rules of FYSA. Come August, you will be judged accordingly by the BOD of FYSA.

"Taking soccer away from kids?" Seriously? There is plenty of soccer available in that area. From the local YMCA on Red Bug to OCYS competitive programs. You are not denying anyone soccer by enforcing the rules of FYSA. Maybe you should try and understand that when your club is folded as part of a merger, you don't get to leave and start back up on your old fields like nothing ever happened. You sold out and that means you lost out of any chance organizing club soccer in that 15-mile radius again. Deal with it Dad.

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I believe we use central winds because it was one of our fields last year as well. We play our home games at Seminole if there is field space. I see fkk home games at central winds.

They sure like to promote Central Winds as home fields in their one and only league

http://www.cdleague.com/venue.aspx?vid=18

Now let's be fair. They did actually schedule three whole games at Shane Kelly during all of 2013-2014 CDL season. I am sure that counts as "Home Field" right? C'mon FKK. Admit it. Shane Kelly is another ruse like your Maitland Player Passes.

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The Next Central Florida Turf War

It won't be OCYS and FKK (Thank God) because it is too far south. The next CFL club battle will be for Lake Nona. The area is ripe for a new club but technically falls within the GOU FYSA protected area. GOU is primarily an Osceola club and does not have the resources to go into Lake Nona. Will we see a merger like the one that created Rush or OCYS? Doubtful. Two sides of the track. I don't see the debs of Nona cavorting with the work'n class of GOU. It needs its own identity with deep pockets and political clout to redraw FYSA territory. Again, it can't be OC so don't go there. English Corporate Soccer stops at the East West Expressway. It could be a closely aligned but separate club started and funded by a well known Brazilian who is known for his love of soccer. I think the area would welcome him with open arms especially if he brought a Brazilian-Coached Academy to South Orlando.

Another option would be for the currently homeless FCA to try and muscle in the territory. They already have several talented players living in Nona and if (big "if" here folks) they can find the right investors, they may be able to raise the old standard again and rebuild towards their past glory.

The wild card would be for an outside party to bring in the Barca Penya and build the kind of dominant club you see in California. There is no doubting the popularity of the brand. You can see the Barca kit all over CFL on kids from shopping malls to soccer practice. To actually play for a Barca-licensed club would be a dream come true for thousands of youth players.

Regardless of who it is, it will take a club with FYSA connections and local clout to woo wealthy parents to their brand new fields. Anyone in real estate will tell you it is the next building boom with the new medical city as its epicenter.

Over the next few years, you will see gated communities sprouting up like Windermere did in the 90's. Lots of flat pasture land just waiting for a developer looking to curry favor with the County by agreeing to build nice lighted fields the size and scope of Auburndale. Do we have your attention yet?

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It won't be OCYS and FKK (Thank God) because it is too far south. The next CFL club battle will be for Lake Nona. The area is ripe for a new club but technically falls within the GOU FYSA protected area. GOU is primarily an Osceola club and does not have the resources to go into Lake Nona. Will we see a merger like the one that created Rush or OCYS? Doubtful. Two sides of the track. I don't see the debs of Nona cavorting with the work'n class of GOU. It needs its own identity with deep pockets and political clout to redraw FYSA territory. Again, it can't be OC so don't go there. English Corporate Soccer stops at the East West Expressway. It could be a closely aligned but separate club started and funded by a well known Brazilian who is known for his love of soccer. I think the area would welcome him with open arms especially if he brought a Brazilian-Coached Academy to South Orlando.

Another option would be for the currently homeless FCA to try and muscle in the territory. They already have several talented players living in Nona and if (big "if" here folks) they can find the right investors, they may be able to raise the old standard again and rebuild towards their past glory.

The wild card would be for an outside party to bring in the Barca Penya and build the kind of dominant club you see in California. There is no doubting the popularity of the brand. You can see the Barca kit all over CFL on kids from shopping malls to soccer practice. To actually play for a Barca-licensed club would be a dream come true for thousands of youth players.

Regardless of who it is, it will take a club with FYSA connections and local clout to woo wealthy parents to their brand new fields. Anyone in real estate will tell you it is the next building boom with the new medical city as its epicenter.

Over the next few years, you will see gated communities sprouting up like Windermere did in the 90's. Lots of flat pasture land just waiting for a developer looking to curry favor with the County by agreeing to build nice lighted fields the size and scope of Auburndale. Do we have your attention yet?

I do think there is a future market in Southwest Orlando. Too much soccer war in CFL to the North and East side of Orlando.

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You must be a lonely soul to be venting about youth soccer at 2 in the morning. Why are you so obsessed about 1000 kids that made a choice and that's not to play with the purple lion? Even if FKK never gets FYSA accreditation many of us will never play at OCYS again so please leave us alone and worry about your own club.

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It won't be OCYS and FKK (Thank God) because it is too far south. The next CFL club battle will be for Lake Nona. The area is ripe for a new club but technically falls within the GOU FYSA protected area. GOU is primarily an Osceola club and does not have the resources to go into Lake Nona. Will we see a merger like the one that created Rush or OCYS? Doubtful. Two sides of the track. I don't see the debs of Nona cavorting with the work'n class of GOU. It needs its own identity with deep pockets and political clout to redraw FYSA territory. Again, it can't be OC so don't go there. English Corporate Soccer stops at the East West Expressway. It could be a closely aligned but separate club started and funded by a well known Brazilian who is known for his love of soccer. I think the area would welcome him with open arms especially if he brought a Brazilian-Coached Academy to South Orlando.

Another option would be for the currently homeless FCA to try and muscle in the territory. They already have several talented players living in Nona and if (big "if" here folks) they can find the right investors, they may be able to raise the old standard again and rebuild towards their past glory.

The wild card would be for an outside party to bring in the Barca Penya and build the kind of dominant club you see in California. There is no doubting the popularity of the brand. You can see the Barca kit all over CFL on kids from shopping malls to soccer practice. To actually play for a Barca-licensed club would be a dream come true for thousands of youth players.

Regardless of who it is, it will take a club with FYSA connections and local clout to woo wealthy parents to their brand new fields. Anyone in real estate will tell you it is the next building boom with the new medical city as its epicenter.

Over the next few years, you will see gated communities sprouting up like Windermere did in the 90's. Lots of flat pasture land just waiting for a developer looking to curry favor with the County by agreeing to build nice lighted fields the size and scope of Auburndale. Do we have your attention yet?

u need to sleep more.

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Wow... the Angry Guy was up into the wee hours furiously typing his Masters' propaganda.

Purple Angry Guy and his club lost when 100 players and families bailed, they lost when FKK became a club, they lost when FKK got passes, they lost when their bogus poaching charges were dismissed, they lost when CDL was given to FKK, they lost when FKK got a lease at Central Winds, they lost when the County Commission denied their attempt to grab fields.

So Angry Guy types furiously long into the night.

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OK. Let's be honest. There is no grand scheme by FKK. HM is a dumb soccer coach who could not balance a check book. You may love his development, you may think he knows the game better than anyone at OC, however, he ran CFK into massive debt and was so inept on club management that OC had to give him the boot. Now he convinces a few loyal CFK parents to help him build a new club and what does he do? First, violates the 15-mile rule. Who does that? Who is so stupid or arrogant or whatever you want to call it that they go ahead and break a rule right in the face of the club they left? And talk about gullible! What were the supposed soccer experienced parents thinking on the FKK board? Did HM give you assurances that FYSA would not uphold their own rules? That somehow FKK was special and would not need to abide by the same rules? And talk about going up and taunting the Lion at the cage!!! You knew OC had the resources to take this fight as far as they needed with FYSA. So that is what happened. OC challenged at the annual meeting and FKK was denied affiliation due to violation of the 5-mile rule. So what does HM and the BoD do? Why they strike a deal with Maitland to use their player passes for State Cup. Not to blend teams and play in the same leagues as Maitland. No, this is just for State Cup. It is a clear gaming of the FYSA rules and more sanctions are coming. Of course the propaganda war starts on TS with the accusations of OC trying to take over youth soccer when the truth is that HM had it in his plan back when he came to CFK. His plan was derailed when he thought he could run OC after he met with Phil and misjudged the man and his money. HM thought Phil would just let him run OCYS as he wished. The truth is that HM could not handle the size and scope of administering the merger of FSA and CFK. Kids went without uniforms. Not enough coaches. Simple gaffs made by the leadership, including HM, that he then flipped against the "Corporate English" as he was dismissed.

The truth is that HM is just a dumb jock who has no business anywhere near the front office. He stumbles at every turn, runs roughshod over regulations and literally spends more money than he takes in. This will lead to another ruinous turn for FKK and the parents who were duped into believing him.

"dumb Jock"? You don't know the guy at all. and if he's a dumb jock, what does that say about the English Directorship who HM has run rings around ever since they set foot in Orlando?

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They sure like to promote Central Winds as home fields in their one and only league

http://www.cdleague.com/venue.aspx?vid=18

Now let's be fair. They did actually schedule three whole games at Shane Kelly during all of 2013-2014 CDL season. I am sure that counts as "Home Field" right? C'mon FKK. Admit it. Shane Kelly is another ruse like your Maitland Player Passes.

Sexual deprivation on display...one handed typer are you?

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They sure like to promote Central Winds as home fields in their one and only league

http://www.cdleague.com/venue.aspx?vid=18

Now let's be fair. They did actually schedule three whole games at Shane Kelly during all of 2013-2014 CDL season. I am sure that counts as "Home Field" right? C'mon FKK. Admit it. Shane Kelly is another ruse like your Maitland Player Passes.

You are a really sad sad person Wendy Lynn. Get some Sleep. Shane Kelly Park is used every single night of the week and every single weekend as well. Keep renting your lights the noise is very soothing.

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You mean the 14DA right? That's the only DA team that they would have a close game with.

They are already talking and the game will be played April 17th. FKK 16s verse the OC DA 16s. The game will be played at Central Winds.

Who do you think will win?

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You must be a lonely soul to be venting about youth soccer at 2 in the morning. Why are you so obsessed about 1000 kids that made a choice and that's not to play with the purple lion? Even if FKK never gets FYSA accreditation many of us will never play at OCYS again so please leave us alone and worry about your own club.

I will quit worrying about FKK when they play by the rules like every other club that respects our club. News flash - we don't want you back so go find your own area to play.

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FYSA needs to review its rules

like many other FYSA rules and policies, this 15 mile rule is another joke. It is used by the powerful only to their advantage. It is common knowledge that ACYS and FCA shared Trotters for several years. Now FCA has no home field to call home which are not within 15 mile radius of other FYSA clubs.
In this modern world, for example Lakers and Clippers share same Staples center, it is rediculous to impose 15 mile rule and promote corruption. It is not in favor of any child players or their parents.
Another example is: Cities support some of their communities. In this case, which club in Oviedo city can the city support that is affiliated with FYSA? How can FYSA justify it to the Oviedo residents?

You need to calm down there angry FKKrazy. The only thing making your head explode is the BS the FKK board keeps shoveling into you.

CFK gave up all rights as a club when they merged with FSA to create OCYS. Gave up the name, the marks, the fields and the uniform. It all belongs to OCYS now. So you don't get a do-over. You can't hit restart. You are not allowed to pick right up where you left off before Phil came along to bail you out of debt. Shove that into your hat son because it is the gospel truth of club mergers. Guy that picks up the check takes the spoils.

Now you are entitled to leave anytime you want. Take your ball, your kids and your coaches and get yourself at least 15-miles away from OC. If you can't find a lighted soccer field, then build one. Because that is what FYSA rules dictate. Look at a map of FYSA member clubs. Notice how each has their own territory in Orlando? Notice how they don't overlap? So when Phil took over your assets and paid off your liabilities, he took over your territory too. FYSA backed him up. Do you need me to print the meeting minutes again? Sure, why not:

Central Florida Soccer Alliance – Joe Avallone and Tim Geltz spoke about the need
for soccer in the East Orange County area, growth plan, and local sponsorships. Craig
Pole and Greg Brick highlighted various issues including poaching charges,
deceptive practices and 15 mile rule. Chris Mills supported all OCYS arguments.
CFSA field location falls within 15 miles of Orlando City, not FC America. Denied
based on 15 mile rule.

There it is from the BOD minutes dated 8/2/2013. You lose. You don't get to take back your fields, your programs and your old tournaments. You don't get to start fresh. You do get to scout out some new territory that does not infringe upon other clubs in the area. Put lights one of the outlying parks. Strike a deal with a high school like FCA did. Just get your new club out of OC territory.

But no, you felt entitled. You felt "wronged" and you were going to show OC you deserve to run your club, where you want, when you want. But it cost you FYSA. And it will continue to cost you. You may have found a loophole this year to play State Cup but the BOD will make sure you can't do that again. You have also lost any chance of R3PL and FSPL. So enjoy CDL while it lasts. You do know their President was at the FYSA meeting stating that FSPL will squeeze them out?

So no FYSA, CDL while it lasts and, of course, no FPL or ECNL. That does not leave much and you know what? It shouldn't. It shouldn't because you flaunted the rules of organization and did your own thing. You deserve to be on the outside looking for a loophole to get in to legitimate competition. FKK is not abiding by the rules of youth soccer and therefore needs to operate outside of organized youth soccer. So enjoy the tournaments while you can still get invited. Enjoy the friendlies with foreign teams. Enjoy living in the FKK bubble because you will never get out. You are not a legitimate club. FYSA has spoken and you will soon learn the consequences of gaming the system along with Maitland.

You truly are a collection of trolls.

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Wow... the Angry Guy was up into the wee hours furiously typing his Masters' propaganda.

Purple Angry Guy and his club lost when 100 players and families bailed, they lost when FKK became a club, they lost when FKK got passes, they lost when their bogus poaching charges were dismissed, they lost when CDL was given to FKK, they lost when FKK got a lease at Central Winds, they lost when the County Commission denied their attempt to grab fields.

So Angry Guy types furiously long into the night.

Typical FKK drivel. No facts, just insults and hyperbole. I post meeting minutes and public filings and you spin, spin, spin. Your ill-gotten gains are short lived. You are operating outside the rules and will be dismissed...with due process of course.