OCYS Consolidated Thread

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Just a thought but what is preventing OC from using the 2 million in funds that Seminole county is giving them to use towards the new field construction? Coincidently isn't the Seminole funds that is being dispersed in amounts of $200,000 over 10 years and OC's yearly contribution for new field construction the same amount?

EXCATLY!!! see people. There is nothing being done "for the good of soccer in Central florida" OCYS has nothing but their own "corporate" goals (LOL Goals) in mind.

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OC is not foolish enough to run the risk of losing their stadium money over this field use issue. Much bigger stakes. With so many eyes now watching and multi-Club opposition in full force, the County is simply not going to allow OC to write their own rules here. OC has bitten the hand that feeds it and now basically needs to eat some crow, apologize, and beg for their stadium money. Really, what a stupid move to nickel and dime the County this way and further alienate all the other clubs. Getting millions in tax dollars and paying back pennies on the dollar; just do it without all the strings attached and nonsense and be grateful for the stadium.

OC is always trying to work the system. Pull clubs in and then fire everyone. They are now simply working the system yet again. Their goal has always been to own central Florida youth soccer. They have professional business men that have been out smarting locals. However, you can only get away with that so long. OC has reached the end of their expansion. At this point it is all down hill.

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glad to see more people having the scales dropped from their eyes. Phil's transparent monopolistic move is finally make more understand his motives.

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strength in numbers... also conspicuously absent is FCA?

FCA will be joining.

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The coalition has a mission statement. They are not asking for anything. How much money do you think Central Florida Clubs pay in field usage fees? How much scholarship money do central florida clubs deliver to kids. Each club puts in way more than $25,000 a year. Good old Phil has a formal presentation and than his legal agreement with the city has different wording. Classic Phil, say one thing and do another and say we made a mistake.

If they want to provide free soccer why are they not doing it in Downtown right now. Why have they not started these programs. The need is in that area more than any other and they have fields downtown. These kids will never make practice at night, after school is the only way. They don't need permission from the county to do it, they don't need a contract, the fields are always available after school.

Simple answer, they don't want to. This is a scam. The needy kids will never make practice from 6-9 as their parents cannot get them there. Phil wants the fields to shut down all the other clubs. It is very clear.

How is any of this good for the game? How is tearing apart other clubs god for the game?

Before you defend OC and attack FKK you may want to look at how many clubs are supporting this. By the way I am not from FKK

Allowing Phil to put his toe in the door is a mistake. Phil has an agenda. Big big money. Ownership of players. Do you think Phil mentioned his business plan to our City Commissioners. Business plan to own soccer to own players rights.

This new world order is NEW to any commissioner they only see one side of Phil and the side Phil shows is that of a donator a giver for the poor. Come on people open your eye's…… Scary times ahead if we do nothing but sit back and wish it would just go away….

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OC is always trying to work the system. Pull clubs in and then fire everyone. They are now simply working the system yet again. Their goal has always been to own central Florida youth soccer. They have professional business men that have been out smarting locals. However, you can only get away with that so long. OC has reached the end of their expansion. At this point it is all down hill.

Wow you behave as if CFK or rush wouldn't have taken over all of central Florida if they could. CFK was ruthless in their pursuit to be a power house. Ius was on their way once they turned to rush but somehow all is forgotten by people who think any of these clubs selflessly care for your kids. People are so flippant.

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I don't think OC has an FKK problems. Apparently all central florida clubs have an issue with OC. It's clear now that OC has "assumed" all the negative posts here were coming from FKK, but it appears they were wrong. OC has burned many bridges in such a short time. They will step on anyone, including our kids, to get their millions.

I can assure you this is NOT just an FKK thing. Every club is upset and feels used by Orlando City. That represents 12,000 families and votes. This represents work of mouth this represents lost revenue. Orlando City is making a grave mistake.

Look for the last 4 Central Florida Clubs to join forces bringing the numbers to well over 15,000 families. Good luck OC.

Someone should contact MLS and bring them into the loop.

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Wow the OCYS publicity machine has nothing to say about this Coalition?

First time ever that OZcYS has gone silent.

Never fear... They are probably having their lawyers review the situation and figuring out who to threaten with a lawsuit.

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I can assure you this is NOT just an FKK thing. Every club is upset and feels used by Orlando City. That represents 12,000 families and votes. This represents work of mouth this represents lost revenue. Orlando City is making a grave mistake.

Look for the last 4 Central Florida Clubs to join forces bringing the numbers to well over 15,000 families. Good luck OC.

Someone should contact MLS and bring them into the loop.

So basically every club is against OC. What about FCA? FCA was gonna merge last year. I wonder if OC messed with that merger. I wonder if FCA is upset about losing a coaching director who was recruited during the first round of State Cup this time last year.

Someone needs to write MLS an Email send them links.

Bad business if these rumors are all true.

I'm holding off on season tickets.

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So basically every club is against OC. What about FCA? FCA was gonna merge last year. I wonder if OC messed with that merger. I wonder if FCA is upset about losing a coaching director who was recruited during the first round of State Cup this time last year.

Someone needs to write MLS an Email send them links.

Bad business if these rumors are all true.

I'm holding off on season tickets.

season tickets. OC only needs to sell around 9,000 season tickets for the NEW stadium, The other 9,000 will be tourist storming their way out of MCO and Sanford to rush to the new down town stadium. Our local hotels, restaurants and businesses will thrive as our City will grow with 9,000 Screaming Brazilians and Englishmen. Orlando tax payers have granted via our Commissioners millions in tourist Tax to Orlando City for the building of the stadium.

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season tickets. OC only needs to sell around 9,000 season tickets for the NEW stadium, The other 9,000 will be tourist storming their way out of MCO and Sanford to rush to the new down town stadium. Our local hotels, restaurants and businesses will thrive as our City will grow with 9,000 Screaming Brazilians and Englishmen. Orlando tax payers have granted via our Commissioners millions in tourist Tax to Orlando City for the building of the stadium.

Who will be checking passports at the gates of the stadium?

Mears buses have been secured for 2015 opening MLS game.

150- 60 passenger buses have been secured for 2015 opening game and detoured to MCO and Sandford International airport.

60 times 150 buses = 9,000 tourist flocking into the stadium all will hotel and foods needs..

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Who will be checking passports at the gates of the stadium?

Mears buses have been secured for 2015 opening MLS game.

150- 60 passenger buses have been secured for 2015 opening game and detoured to MCO and Sandford International airport.

60 times 150 buses = 9,000 tourist flocking into the stadium all will hotel and foods needs..

Our local politicians are off their rockers. They have been fooled.

Do our Politicians understand the business model of Orlando City youth soccer club? I'm positive with all the conversations that PR has opened up telling them of his intentions and business goals.. Ya Right. Better to push thru and ask for forgiveness later. The Motto of OC.

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season tickets. OC only needs to sell around 9,000 season tickets for the NEW stadium, The other 9,000 will be tourist storming their way out of MCO and Sanford to rush to the new down town stadium. Our local hotels, restaurants and businesses will thrive as our City will grow with 9,000 Screaming Brazilians and Englishmen. Orlando tax payers have granted via our Commissioners millions in tourist Tax to Orlando City for the building of the stadium.

The Old Financial Impact study… LMAO

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The coalition has a mission statement. They are not asking for anything. How much money do you think Central Florida Clubs pay in field usage fees? How much scholarship money do central florida clubs deliver to kids. Each club puts in way more than $25,000 a year. Good old Phil has a formal presentation and than his legal agreement with the city has different wording. Classic Phil, say one thing and do another and say we made a mistake.

If they want to provide free soccer why are they not doing it in Downtown right now. Why have they not started these programs. The need is in that area more than any other and they have fields downtown. These kids will never make practice at night, after school is the only way. They don't need permission from the county to do it, they don't need a contract, the fields are always available after school.

Simple answer, they don't want to. This is a scam. The needy kids will never make practice from 6-9 as their parents cannot get them there. Phil wants the fields to shut down all the other clubs. It is very clear.

How is any of this good for the game? How is tearing apart other clubs god for the game?

Before you defend OC and attack FKK you may want to look at how many clubs are supporting this. By the way I am not from FKK

How does getting priority access to new fields "shut down" other clubs? You still have access to your existing fields, and there will be 14 new fields that will be available on Mondays and Wednesdays.

If the coalition isn't asking for anything, then what is in their alternate proposal?

If the clubs in the coalition want to provide free soccer, why aren't they doing it now? They say they have been around for 40 years, why haven't they already been providing these programs? They don't need permission from the county to do it, they don't need a contract, the fields are always available after school. If your club isn't providing these programs, you don't have the right to criticize someone else for not providing them.

I realize that OC wouldn't provide these programs if it wasn't in their contract, at least not to this extent. I'm not naive. But that is part of their agreement. In return for receiving the funds, they have to provide these programs. It's part of the tradeoff that the government was willing to make. Was it a good deal for the city/county? Probably not. Government isn't known for making intelligent decisions.

I don't know how much money these clubs pay in field usage fees or how much scholarship money they provide. Give me a few minutes and I'll see if I can find any information.

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