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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Here's a newsflash .... something like 90% of kids attend schools within 4 hours drive from their home. Most kids on east coast do not need tx, az, or ca trips as they far more than likely to play on this side of the Mississippi River. Many college programs have reps at bigger, more local tournaments. Plenty of ways to be seen without going to Arizona, including attending their camps/clinics.
    Newsflash, ALL the schools that are in your area (within 4 hours), are going to the ECNL national events! It is one stop shopping. Those college coaches will travel to AZ, over watching an EDP game taking place in their own city! All the bang for the college coaches buck is attending the ECNL or DA national events. These are the facts.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Agree mostly with this - BUT and it’s a big BUT - there are no signs of change zip, zero, zilch, so since nothing is changing at Bucks the D1 commits will not happen - therefore the patch has no value at bucks! Might as well go play EDP and save a lot of money bc your kid will end up at the same D2,D3 schools that the bucks kids do - but you will have saved yourself a lot of time and money.

      Can you point to any signs of change at Bucks - because to me things are worse than ever with their pathetic lack of leadership and training during this crisis. It’s not just the 2006 team that has been given no direction - my kid plays on another bucks team and her team hasn’t done anything either.
      Nope, still lots of value, even with your hands tied at FC Bucks. Still better than EDP. NO VALUE playing EDP if college is the goal of your child. If playing for fun with your friends is the goal, play EDP, if playing for fun with your friends and college is the goal, play ECNL or DA.

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        Based on the irrational behavior displayed by parents on this board unfortunately ECNL is not an option for us. EDP it is, and it is actually fun.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Nope, still lots of value, even with your hands tied at FC Bucks. Still better than EDP. NO VALUE playing EDP if college is the goal of your child. If playing for fun with your friends is the goal, play EDP, if playing for fun with your friends and college is the goal, play ECNL or DA.
          You are the perfect sheeple FC. Bucks needs to stay in business and continue the status quo.

          Facts: FC Bucks ECNL and EDP are sending kids to the same colleges D2,D3. So your statement is hogwash plenty of EDP kids will play soccer in college - right along side of the Bucks ECNL kids and because the EDP kids have actually been developed and trained properly they will be the ones starting.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            You are the perfect sheeple FC. Bucks needs to stay in business and continue the status quo.

            Facts: FC Bucks ECNL and EDP are sending kids to the same colleges D2,D3. So your statement is hogwash plenty of EDP kids will play soccer in college - right along side of the Bucks ECNL kids and because the EDP kids have actually been developed and trained properly they will be the ones starting.
            FC Bucks Class of 2020 has two girls each going to East Stroudsburg and Thomas Jefferson University. You dont need ECNL and trips to Arizona to play at East Stroudsburg or TJU

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Newsflash, ALL the schools that are in your area (within 4 hours), are going to the ECNL national events! It is one stop shopping. Those college coaches will travel to AZ, over watching an EDP game taking place in their own city! All the bang for the college coaches buck is attending the ECNL or DA national events. These are the facts.
              That is true for bigger programs, but most D1, D2, and certainly D3 have very limited recruiting budgets. Heck, i bet even the difference in recruiting budgets between 1-20 and 21-50 is eye opening. Nova, Temple, Carnegie Mellon, and Bucknell were slated to send one AC to Phoenix this year .... where are Drexel, Duquesne, LaSalle, Lafayette, Lehigh, Penn, PSU, Pitt, RMU, SFU, and the 20 or so D2s from PA that have athletic money to burn? See what I mean?

              https://tgs.totalglobalsports.com/pu....aspx?eid=1467

              In contrast, 52 .... yes 52! PA coaches slated to go to this year's Jeff Cup:
              http://events.gotsport.com/events/co...?EventID=73245

              Granted many are D3, but still more D1 and D2 coaches from PA at Jeff Cup than ECNL Phoenix. Again, why paying so much to play 3 games out west ... twice!
              52 at Bethesda: https://events.gotsport.com/events/c...?EventID=72815

              Potomac (Low level) has 18 PA coaches (looks like almost all D3): https://events.gotsport.com/events/c...?EventID=72815

              Manhattan KOC had 14!: https://events.gotsport.com/events/c...?EventID=72815

              DO you see where I am going with this? Let alone all of the other local states. If your kid wants to go to Eastern Montana, go to a tournament in SOuth Dakota or Montana, but if they want to go to school closer to home, it's a good bet those coaches will be at a local tournament (even the smaller ones) ... and it is way cheaper.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                You're joking right? In additional to at least three, 1- or 2- night weekends for league play (depending on where your team is) you have this https://www.eliteclubsnationalleague...-events-19-20/. Show me the list of mandatory tournaments for EDP that have flights involved. Just because you make stuff up and put it on the internet does not mean it is true.

                If you are a top EDP team and doing national league you are flying to florida and vegas, and most likely to one or two of the following: Disney, surf cup, vegas showcase or dallas cup. If you are are not doing NL and are really good you are doing 2 of those tournaments plus a bunch of others. If your team isn't interested in those things of course it's cheaper. My kid has bigger goals and playing only in the EDP, EDP showcases, Jeff Cup and local tournaments aren't really in her best interest.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  If you are a top EDP team and doing national league you are flying to florida and vegas, and most likely to one or two of the following: Disney, surf cup, vegas showcase or dallas cup. If you are are not doing NL and are really good you are doing 2 of those tournaments plus a bunch of others. If your team isn't interested in those things of course it's cheaper. My kid has bigger goals and playing only in the EDP, EDP showcases, Jeff Cup and local tournaments aren't really in her best interest.
                  I am sure she does. Hopefully she gets into Haverford and gets a little PT by junior year if she is still playing by then.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    I am sure she does. Hopefully she gets into Haverford and gets a little PT by junior year if she is still playing by then.
                    Says the guy who over values his daughter's ability so much that he posts on here non-stop because she didn't make the team. Sorry but not sorry and no my kid doesn't play at Bucks but she will be next year.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Says the guy who over values his daughter's ability so much that he posts on here non-stop because she didn't make the team. Sorry but not sorry and no my kid doesn't play at Bucks but she will be next year.
                      Wow she already made the team - did tryouts happen already? I thought they were in the beginning of May? Did I miss the living room meeting that picked next years team?

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Newsflash, ALL the schools that are in your area (within 4 hours), are going to the ECNL national events! It is one stop shopping. Those college coaches will travel to AZ, over watching an EDP game taking place in their own city! All the bang for the college coaches buck is attending the ECNL or DA national events. These are the facts.
                        Some coaches that are recruiting from those areas may like to see how you play against other teams from other regions.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          That is true for bigger programs, but most D1, D2, and certainly D3 have very limited recruiting budgets. Heck, i bet even the difference in recruiting budgets between 1-20 and 21-50 is eye opening. Nova, Temple, Carnegie Mellon, and Bucknell were slated to send one AC to Phoenix this year .... where are Drexel, Duquesne, LaSalle, Lafayette, Lehigh, Penn, PSU, Pitt, RMU, SFU, and the 20 or so D2s from PA that have athletic money to burn? See what I mean?

                          https://tgs.totalglobalsports.com/pu....aspx?eid=1467

                          In contrast, 52 .... yes 52! PA coaches slated to go to this year's Jeff Cup:
                          http://events.gotsport.com/events/co...?EventID=73245

                          Granted many are D3, but still more D1 and D2 coaches from PA at Jeff Cup than ECNL Phoenix. Again, why paying so much to play 3 games out west ... twice!
                          52 at Bethesda: https://events.gotsport.com/events/c...?EventID=72815

                          Potomac (Low level) has 18 PA coaches (looks like almost all D3): https://events.gotsport.com/events/c...?EventID=72815

                          Manhattan KOC had 14!: https://events.gotsport.com/events/c...?EventID=72815

                          DO you see where I am going with this? Let alone all of the other local states. If your kid wants to go to Eastern Montana, go to a tournament in SOuth Dakota or Montana, but if they want to go to school closer to home, it's a good bet those coaches will be at a local tournament (even the smaller ones) ... and it is way cheaper.
                          https://events.gotsport.com/events/c...?EventID=73511

                          A great turnout for the local showcase from Feb. 2020. Great bang for your buck.

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                            That’s actually pretty impressive, better than Spirit.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              https://events.gotsport.com/events/c...?EventID=73511

                              A great turnout for the local showcase from Feb. 2020. Great bang for your buck.
                              If you further cross reference the colleges FC Bucks players have committed to against the events/tournaments coaches from those colleges attended, your see even more that ECNL at FC Bucks is not worth it, and the whole "exposure" argument for FC Bucks ECNL is nothing but a myth.

                              Here are the facts - If you are a top player (at a national level) at FC Bucks and you really believe your kid has a shot at decent D1 school, chances are you are leaving FC Bucks to got to a club that actually commits kids to D1 schools and has a college development program (i.e., PDA). If you are a decent player, and are angling more towards a bottom level D1, D2, or D3 school, you are statistically no better off at FC Bucks ECNL than top level EDP. team. If anything you are better off financially at a club that costs less, and are better off at a club that has coaches with connections at these colleges and has a college development director or someone in charge of college recruiting.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                If you further cross reference the colleges FC Bucks players have committed to against the events/tournaments coaches from those colleges attended, your see even more that ECNL at FC Bucks is not worth it, and the whole "exposure" argument for FC Bucks ECNL is nothing but a myth.

                                Here are the facts - If you are a top player (at a national level) at FC Bucks and you really believe your kid has a shot at decent D1 school, chances are you are leaving FC Bucks to got to a club that actually commits kids to D1 schools and has a college development program (i.e., PDA). If you are a decent player, and are angling more towards a bottom level D1, D2, or D3 school, you are statistically no better off at FC Bucks ECNL than top level EDP. team. If anything you are better off financially at a club that costs less, and are better off at a club that has coaches with connections at these colleges and has a college development director or someone in charge of college recruiting.
                                You are all supportive about Bucks until your last sentence which contradicts everything you wrote before about Bucks. That's exactly it about the club and especially this team - this coach does not have connections, nor does the club have someone in charge of college development

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